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JonTheSavage
Yes! Finally, lets create a black hole that will suck our planet in, and kill us all. Well, thats what they thought during the Manhatten project when they tried to literally "catch the atmosphere on fire", which WAS their goal, but it never worked.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/...80627175348.htm
Kiko
Hooray for sudden nothingness !!!!
rollcage
QUOTE(JonTheSavage @ Jul 1 2008, 11:04 PM) *
Yes! Finally, lets create a black hole that will suck our planet in, and kill us all. Well, that's what they thought during the Manhatten project when they tried to literally "catch the atmosphere on fire", which WAS their goal, but it never worked.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/...80627175348.htm


Edward Teller was the only one who was really worried about the atmosphere igniting, he was proved wrong by calculations made by Hans Bethe. Seriously, where did you get that idea? blink.gif


Anyway collisions more powerful than those that will be occurring in the Hadron Collider happen constantly in our own atmosphere. I highly doubt the majority of scientists are for ending life on Earth...

QUOTE
Hooray for sudden nothingness !!!!

Really, at least it would be quick and painless. When I'm old, I'd love to die in my sleep of a micro-black hole biggrin.gif
JonTheSavage
QUOTE(rollcage @ Jul 2 2008, 03:26 AM) *
Anyway collisions more powerful than those that will be occurring in the Hadron Collider happen constantly in our own atmosphere. I highly doubt the majority of scientists are for ending life on Earth...


I've heard of this. It was mentioned some years ago in an article I read. It had something to do with a type of particle that would enter our atmosphere faster than the speed of light (theory), collide with the techtonic plates, and pass through the planet in a split second. It was so fast, that it would cause disruption afterwards, and stir up the core only slightly. It would cause minor earthquakes, and shakes later.

Somewhat, I suppose, like a bullet passing through an apple. The Apple will only explode after the bullet has exited the apple. From shear force, and speed. I demonistrated this on film before with a 7mm Magnum, a 4 gallon jug of water, and a high speed camera I borrowed for a few days. At 3100 FPS, there isn't much that will stop it. smile.gif
foxelement
I really don't think that there's any chance of the earth blowing up. Really, it looks just like another conspiracy theory.
JonTheSavage
QUOTE(foxelement @ Jul 2 2008, 09:49 PM) *
I really don't think that there's any chance of the earth blowing up. Really, it looks just like another conspiracy theory.


If that thing blew up it would be like a small nuke going off.
Paranoid Marvin
Hahah, again, JonTheSavage knows more than the scientists hysterical.gif

I was speaking to an Italian theoretical/particle physicist just last week, and if anyone knows more about the LHC than JonTheSavage, I think it would be him.

This isn't going to make a black hole, it's dealing with about the same amount of energy as two mosquitos coliding.
JonTheSavage
QUOTE(Paranoid Marvin @ Jul 3 2008, 04:03 PM) *
Hahah, again, JonTheSavage knows more than the scientists hysterical.gif

I was speaking to an Italian theoretical/particle physicist just last week, and if anyone knows more about the LHC than JonTheSavage, I think it would be him.

This isn't going to make a black hole, it's dealing with about the same amount of energy as two mosquitos coliding.


Two mosquitos don't create black holes.
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE(JonTheSavage @ Jul 4 2008, 02:56 AM) *
Two mosquitos don't create black holes.


The quantities of matter involved in the LHC are tiny, they just have a large quantity of energy in a small space.
The total energy involved in the collision is equivalent of a mosquito hitting another mosquito.

If it was going to make a black hole, I think the physicist that I spoke to last week who is working on the experiment would be a little more concerned whistle.gif
JonTheSavage
QUOTE(Paranoid Marvin @ Jul 4 2008, 08:05 PM) *
The quantities of matter involved in the LHC are tiny, they just have a large quantity of energy in a small space.
The total energy involved in the collision is equivalent of a mosquito hitting another mosquito.

If it was going to make a black hole, I think the physicist that I spoke to last week who is working on the experiment would be a little more concerned whistle.gif


They weren't concerned about the Manhattan project either.
djet
Yes, because we're all forgetting that the workers at the Manhattan Project were conniving people for world destruction and that they didn't feel any remorse for dropping the bomb.
erei33
QUOTE(djet @ Jul 6 2008, 10:10 AM) *
Yes, because we're all forgetting that the workers at the Manhattan Project were conniving people for world destruction and that they didn't feel any remorse for dropping the bomb.

JonTheSavage
QUOTE(erei33 @ Jul 6 2008, 09:00 PM) *


HAHAHA. I love the 3 stooges.

iSkylla
You better start learning what you're trying to talk about, the LHC, because otherwise someone who actually studied particle physics in college for two years just might come in here...

Edit---

I should say now that the primary purpose of the LHC is to find the presence of the Higgs boson, the supposed higgs field (not the baseball field outside CERN wink.gif), not to create a mini black hole. However with the energies used at the LHC, anything is possible.

Physicists want to complete the standard model of particle physics. Shelly Glashow was actually one of my professors, pretty cool eh?

Personally, I want to see SUSY confirmed at the LHC.
Dainix
Even if a black hole were created from this collider, it would immediately disintegrate. Worst case scenario, it'll produce something a few centimeters in diameter.

I'm not worried. Even after its launch in August, we still have another two months before the world would "end."
killbot1000
QUOTE(rollcage @ Jul 1 2008, 08:26 PM) *
Really, at least it would be quick and painless. When I'm old, I'd love to die in my sleep of a micro-black hole biggrin.gif


It would actually be slow, super slow. As one gets closer to a black hole time slows down more and more and more, until when you are at the event horizon, time almost stops, and you are stretched out into a spagetti string shape. Time on the Opposite side of the Earth would be normal, while as you got closer to the Black Hole, time would slow down. The Earth would Definitely be in a really weird place.
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