Got this in my e-mail, one of those idiotic articles written by that madman Rich Carroll.

The Jihad Candidate
by Rich Carroll

Conspiracy theories make for interesting novels when the storyline is not so absurd that it can grasp our attention. 'The Manchurian Candidate' and 'Seven Days in May' are examples of plausible chains of events that captures the reader's imagination at best-seller level. 'What if' has always been the solid grist of fiction.

Get yourself something cool to drink, find a relaxing position, but before you continue, visualize the television photos of two jet airliners smashing into the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan and remind yourself this cowardly act of Muslim terror was planned for eight years.

How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States? As long as it took them to place a Senator from Illinois and Minnesota? The same amount of time to create a large Muslim enclave in Detroit? The time it took them to build over 2,000 mosques in America? The same amount of time required to place radical wahabbist clerics in our military and prisons as 'chaplains'?

Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being a 'freedom fighter' when he was actually part of the most corrupt and violent government in Kenya's history. Find a candidate with close ties to The Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa, a candidate who is educated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and anger behind a superficial toothy smile. Find a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barack Hussein Obama, and dares anyone to question his true ties under the banner of 'racism'. Nurture this candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround him with Islamic teachers. Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white, anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim middle east connections and Islamic monies. Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer dollars to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa.

Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception, because questioning him on any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as 'bigoted racism'; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of facts. Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and campaign staffs.

Where is the bloodhound American 'free press' who doggedly overturned every stone in the Watergate case? Where are our nation's reporters that have placed every Presidential candidate under the microscope of detailed scrutiny; the same press who pursue Bush's 'Skull and Bones' club or ran other candidates off with persistent detective and research work? Why haven't 'newsmen' pursued the 65 blatant lies told by this candidate during the Presidential primaries? Where are the stories about this candidate's cousin and the Muslim butchery in Africa? Since when did our national press corps become weak, timid, and silent? Why haven't they regaled us with the long list of socialists and communists who have surrounded this 'out of nowhere' Democrat candidate or the fact that his church re-printed the Hamas Manifesto in their bulletin, and that his 'close pastor friend and mentor' met with Middle East terrorist Muammar Qaddafi, (Guide of the First of September Great Revolution of the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya)? Why isn't the American press telling us this candidate is supported by every Muslim organization in the world?

As an ultimate slap in the face, be blatant in the fact your candidate has ZERO interest in traditional American values and has the most liberal voting record in U.S. Senate history. Why has the American mainstream media clammed up on any negative reporting on Barak Hussein Obama? Why will they print Hillary Rodham Clinton's name but never write his middle name? Is it not his name? Why, suddenly, is ANY information about this candidate not coming from mainstream media, but from the blogosphere by citizens seeking facts and the truth? Why isn't our media connecting the dots with Islam? Why do they focus on 'those bad American soldiers' while Islam slaughters non-Muslims daily in 44 countries around the globe? Why does our media refer to Darfur as 'ethnic cleansing' instead of what it really is: Muslims killing non-Muslims! There is enough strange, anti-American activity surrounding Barack Hussein Obama to pique the curiosity of any reporter. WHERE IS OUR INVESTIGATIVE MEDIA!?

A formal plan for targeting America was devised three years after the Iranian revolution in 1982. The plan was summarized in a 1991 memorandum by Mohammed Akram, an operative of the global Muslim Brotherhood. 'The process of settlement' of Muslims in America, Akram explained, 'is a civilization jihad process.' This means that members of the Brotherhood must understand that their work in 'America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions.'

There is terrorism we can see, smell and fear, but there is a new kind of terror invading The United States in the form of Sharia law and finance. Condoning it is civilization suicide. Middle East Muslims are coming to America in record numbers and building hate infidel mosques, buying our corporations, suing us for our traditions, but they and the whole subject of Islam is white noise leaving uninformed Americans about who and what is really peaceful. Where is our investigative press? Any criticism of Islam or their intentions, even though Islamic leaders state their intentions daily around the globe, brings forth a volley of 'racist' from the left-wing Democrat crowd.

Lies and deception behind a master plan - the ingredients for 'The Manchurian Candidate' or the placement of an anti-American President in our nation's White House? Is it mere coincidence that an anti-capitalist run for President at the same time Islamic Sharia finance and law is trying to make advancing strides into the United States? Is it mere coincidence this same candidate wants to disarm our nuclear capability at a time when terrorist Muslim nations are expanding their nuclear weapons capability? Is it mere coincidence this candidate wants to reduce our military at a time of global jihad from Muslim nations?

Change for America? What change? To become another 'nation of Islam'?

Wait! Let me go get my tin foil hat.

Well......
Your current form of government is NOT working!


SticMAN

I don't know where this guy comes up with all this {censored}.

I didn't know we even had a form of government anymore.



Hopefully some place with electric fences and soft walls.

Someone ban that moron. I guess he would rather gut the constitution with Bush III. Go away gnat. No one believes your bs and lies.

Did you even read the entire post?

Someone aught to ban THAT moron. I kid the noobies.

Of course, all members of Islam are part of an elaborate conspiracy to infiltrate and take down the United States. Islam is a completely evil religion and none of them are non violent or non extremist, .

I would much more appreciate this if it were a message attacking all religion.

Welcome to the Borg.

Doliks: EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows...t_b_108904.html

*ahem*

"Daleks"

A "Dalek" (He misspelled it) is a creature from Dr. Who. They are a species created with no emotions and are killing machines, and there signature phrase "Exterminate" when they destory a planet. The Daleks and the Time Lords fought in the last great time war and very few daleks and only one time lord (The Doctor) survived. The daleks are equated in the universe as the Nazis, Terrorists, and Commies combined XD. If you havent seen Dr. Who you should, great british TV Series.



As for Obama,

I live in Illnois and i would NOT ever want him as president. Hes done absolutely nothing when he was a Illinois and US Senator (I say WAS because after he became a US senator he ran for president). He has the worst economic strategy and wont help us at all. As a side note here are some things Obama wants to change

Ecomomics: Solution: To help w/ gas prices he wants to tax the oil companies and make them invest thier profits into alternative fuel research
Reality: The prices will go up even higher!!!!! and using a company's profits to invest in something that will hurt them is kind of the opposite of capitalism


He wont wear the flag on his lapel and doesnt put his hand over his heart when the anthem is being played. It might not be a requirement by the consitution but to be president I believe that you need to love your country...which he doesnt.

P.S: Hes just another liberal that wants the US to be a socialist republic so "everyone is the same" and this equal result crap that the USA wasnt based on....btw the how many contries have/has socialism worked for.....ZERO

Actually he does, but a $2.00 lapel pin does not make or break a great leader so quit your whining. You people are just trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Anything is better than another 4 years of McBush


Nothing but opinionated speculation

I really don't see the big deal with that. What difference is there if you put your hand on your chest or not. tbh it's just a stupid meaningless tradition which can be ignored.

Some people could easily go on to say "To be president I believe you need to be Christian" or even "...you need to be white".

But I know that's not what you're saying. Just that there are people out there who are ridged with their old ways no matter what. Sad really.

Yes I agree, it is sad. Very sad. We saw in the last presidential election, and I'm sure we'll be seeing it also in this next one, that some people love the republican party more than they love this country. For the good of this country we need to weed those people out.

I would say that, in the USA, the government system is only as good as its citizens.

I would tend to agree!While pure socialism has its problems, many of its ideals exist within modern states with varying degrees of success.Many things even in US culture are socialist. Public education, mail, fire stations, libraries, etc. Public services in many modern democracies/republics tend to be socialist. You wouldn't want the fire-fighting company to drive by your house as its burning because you didn't pay them would you?Many socialist reforms HELP the economy a lot. With some socialist reforms, small business could compete with Wal-Mart, children don't have to work in factories, people get paid fair wages, etc.It is not good to throw out what we have in favor of socialism, but we can learn something from every system and the true reality is that a mixed economy (capitalist, and socialist aspects, etc.) seems to work best.Universal health-care is also a socialist reform, and that works better for many countries than the system we in the US have where we pay a health insurance company to cover our health needs where they can deny coverage at any time due to loop holes in the law.Socialism is not evil, it is simply different. What China, the Soviet Union, North Korea, and Vietnam had and have is not socialism, it is not the means of production controlled by the people but the means of production controlled by the government. The Government became the single employer. Socialism doesn't have to work this way, and if it took hold in a modern, industrialized state, with individual rights, etc. It would take on a very different flavor.With any economic system there are trade-offs. We haven't found a perfect system yet, we should keep looking.We should simply look at a situation, find out what works best in that certain situation, and use it. We should all throw our economic ideologies out the window and instead focus on which things work in the right place (socialism - public services, capitalism - technological development, etc.)Just throwin' some stuff out there.

Also, Barack Obama is a smart guy. I have every confidence that if he messes up, he will fix it and do it right from then on. Bush on the other hand says he's right, and then continues to say hes right even if the evidence continues to stack against his claims. I don't believe Obama would make that mistake.

Plus while he has only been a senator for a short time, his record is not bad. He has helped sponsor legislation on a variety of important, but not much talked about issues.

Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:

Two addressed foreign policy:
Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

Three addressed public health:
Improve mine safety (2803)
Increased breast cancer funding (597)
Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).

Two addressed openness and accountability in government:
Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488)
Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

Two addressed national security
Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467)
Amend the Patriot Act (2167)

One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces
Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).

Of the 570 bills Senator Obama introduced into the Senate during the 109th and 110th Congress (Senate Bill numbers are in parentheses), they can be summarized as follows:

25 addressed Energy Efficiency and Climate Change
Suspend royalty relief for oil and gas (115)
Reduce dependence on oil; use of alternative energy sources (133)
Increase fuel economy standards for cars (767, 768)
Auto industry incentives for fuel efficient vehicles (1151)
Reduce green house gas emissions (1324)
Establish at NSF a climate change education program (1389)
Increase renewable content of gasoline (2202)
Energy emergency relief for small businesses and farms (269)
Strategic gasoline and fuel reserves (1794)
Alternative diesel standards (3554)
Coal to liquid fuel promotion (3623)
Renewable diesel standards (1920)
Reducing global warming pollution from vehicles (2555)
Fuel security and consumer choice (1994, 2025)
Alternative energy refueling system (2614)
Climate change education (1389)
Low income energy assistance (2405)
Oil savings targets (339)
Fuel economy reform (3694)
Plug-in electric drive vehicles (1617)
Nuclear release notice (2348)
Passenger rail investment (294)
Energy relief for low income families (2405)

21 addressed Health Care
Drug re-importation (334)
Health information technology (1262, 1418)
Discount drug prices (2347)
Health care associated infections (2278)
Hospital quality report cards (692, 1824)
Medical error disclosure and compensation (1784)
Emergency medical care and response (1873)
Stem cell research (5)
Medical Malpractice insurance (1525)
Health centers renewal (901, 3771)
Children’s health insurance (401)
Home health care (2061)
Medicare independent living (2103)
Microbicides for HIV/AIDS (823)
Ovarian cancer biomarker research (2569)
Gynological cancers (1172)
Access to personalized medicine through use of human genome (976)
Paralysis research and care (1183)

20 addressed Public Health:
Violence against women (1197)
Biodefense and pandemic preparedness and response (1821, 1880)
Viral influenza control (969)
End homelessness (1518)
Reduce STDs/unintended pregnancy (1790)
Smoking prevention and tobacco control (625)
Minority health improvement and disparity elimination (4024)
Nutrition and physical education in schools (2066)
Health impact assessments (1067, 2506)
Healthy communities (1068)
Combat methamphetamines (2071)
Paid sick leave (910)
Prohibit mercury sales (833, 1818)
Prohibit sale of lead products (1306, 2132)
Lead exposure in children (1811, 2132)

14 address Consumer Protection/Labor
Stop unfair labor practices (842)
Fair minimum wage (2, 1062, 2725, 3829)
Internet freedom (2917)
Credit card safety (2411)
Media ownership (2332)
Protecting taxpayer privacy (2484)
Working family child assistance (218)
Habeus Corpus Restoration (185)
Bankruptcy protection for employees and retirees (2092)
FAA fair labor management dispute resolution (2201)
Working families flexibility (2419).

13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces:
Improve Benefits (117)
Suicide prevention (479)
Needs of homeless veterans (1180)
Homes for veterans (1084)
GI Bill enhancement (43)
Military job protection
Dignity in care for wounded vets (713)
Housing assistance for low income veterans (1084)
Military children in public schools (2151)
Military eye injury research and care (1999)
Research physical/mental health needs from Iraq War (1271)
Proper administration of discharge for personality disorder (1817, 1885)
Security of personal data of veterans (3592)

12 addressed Congressional Ethics and Accountability
Lobbying and ethics reform (230)
Stop fraud (2280)
Legislative transparency and accountability (525)
Open government (2180, 2488)
Restoring fiscal discipline (10)
Transparency and integrity in earmarks (2261)
Accountability of conference committee deliberations and reports (2179)
Federal funding accountability and transparency (2590)
Accountability and oversight for private security functions under Federal
contract (674)
Accountability for contractors and personnel under federal contracts
(2147) Resctrictions awarding government contracts (2519)

10 addressed Foreign Policy:
Iraq war de-escalation (313)
US policy for Iraq (433),
Divestiture from Iran (1430)
Sudan divestment authorization (831)
Millennium Development Goals (2433)
Multilateral debt relief (1320)
Development bank reform (1129)
Nuclear nonproliferation (3131,977,2224).

9 address Voting/Elections
Prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections (453)
Voter access to polls and services in Federal elections (737)
Voter intimidation and deceptive practices (1975)
Senate campaign disclosure parity (185)
Require reporting for bundled campaign contributions (2030)
Election jamming prevention (4102)
Campaign disclosure parity (223)
Presidential funding (2412)
Integrity of electronic voting systems (1487)

11 addressed Education
Increase access of low income African Americans to higher education (1513)
Establish teaching residency programs (1574)
Increase early intervention services (2111)
Middle school curriculum improvements (2227)
Public database of scholarships, fellowships and financial aid (2428)
Summer learning programs (116)
TANF financial education promotion (924)
Higher education (1642)
Build capacity at community colleges (379)
Campus law enforcement in emergencies (1228)
Support for teachers (2060).

6 addressed Hurrican Katrina
Hurricane Katrina recovery (2319)
Emergency relief (1637)
Bankruptcy relief and community protection (1647)
Working family tax relief (2257)
Fair wages for recovery workers (1749)
Gulf coast infrastructure redevelopment (1836)

5 addressed the Environment
Drinking water security (218, 1426)
Water resources development (728)
Waste water treatment (1995)
Combat illegal logging (1930)
Spent nuclear fuel tracking and Acountability (1194)
Asian Carp Prevention and Control Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.726.IS ]

4 addressed Discrimination
Claims for civil class action based on discrimination (1989)
Domestic partnership benefits (2521)
Unresolved civil rights crimes (535)
Equality or two parent families (2286)

4 addressed Homeland Security
Judicial review of FISA orders (2369)
National emergency family locator (1630)
Amend US Patriot Act (2167)
Chemical security and safety (2486)

Not bad for only a few years, I don't agree with everything Obama has voted on, but I doubt you'll ever find a presidential candidate that agrees with you 100% of the time.

I just wanted to throw out there some of Obama's senate record in the short time he has been a senator.

I would say that, the government system is only as good as the amount of men with a back bone willing to stand up against the evil in the government. One of my favorite quotes is by Edmund Burke who said "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." People in this country knew that bush was corrupt and harming the country before the last election, and yet they fell for his fear tactics and rhetoric. Hopefully the people in this great country won't again fall for the same republican manipulation, lies and fear tactics used before. The last thing this country needs is another 4 years of McBush.

When good people in any country allow their ignorance to be manipulated, then evil men will prevail.

np dude

But everyone lets stick to the main topic here. Often topics get derailed in Real Life and these diversions make the topic not worth keeping open as they often result in people arguing. So what ever the origional topic was (I've actually semi forgotten), lets go back to that.


EDIT: I've hidden all off topic posts to see if we can get back on track to discuss "Be afraid of the big black muslim man, Barack Hussein Obama" smoothly. Lets just see how it goes.


Anyway, my question to you all. The US it seems is somewhat ready for a Women president, maybe even a Black president but could they take a Muslim president? Serious question.

I'm personally thinking no. Mainly because of 9/11 and also because I think as great as America can be, it's a country which moves fairly slowly with time and doesn't accept change easily.

You do realize, Obama is not a muslim, right?

I think the question is still valid.

And no, I don´t think USA is nowhere near accepting a muslim president. Common americans fright for islam is simply to big.

I don't think that the USA, and I'm not being racist, just frank and honest, isn't ready for a black president. I support the guy and many of us do, but there are people who don't like him because of his skin color. If Obama would have been white there would have been a lot more people supporting him now than then.

I'm ready for one, but I don't think America is, I agree Superhai. Too much xenophobia in general.

Why would it be valid? Since none of the presidential candidates are muslim, that's a moot point.

I don't think anyone would vote for a midget either, but does it really matter?

Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.

I know that. The point that you feel you need to explain this proves my point, if USA was ready for a muslim president noone would care if he was or not a muslim and/or raised as a muslim. The question is hypotetical but it is still not invalid.

Source



Poor atheists

OMG your kidding me. But we share the same middle name (ok well mine is Hussain)

No it doesn't. I brought up what I did so that there would be no misunderstanding about him. It had nothing to do with him not being muslim. If you had said that he was 300 pounds I would have corrected that also. Too much biased misinformation being posted on the net. I don't care who people vote for. If they are so prejudiced and ignorant that they won't vote for a good man because he is 'this' or 'that' - then that reflects THEIR bad character, not his. I just think it's a shame that some people seem to care more about their 'party' then they do for what's in this countries best interest.

Maxintosh, I raised the question and consider it a valid one because I'm sure that is what this thread was created to discuss.

(From Post 1)

I understand that Mebster However the original poster obviously posted that article to provoke a reaction. Maybe they are immature, or maybe they just had bad judgement, but every rational adult that I know would have simply deleted that e-mail and moved on, instead of repeating it on the net Nothing in that letter that's posted is true. It's all based on half-truths and lies. Obama has NOTHING to do with Islam, so the first sentence that you re-posted above is a flat out lie. The second sentence is also not true because his name was NEVER really 'barry'. That was simply a nick name that he was called as a child ...like scooter, or buddy or whatever. He understandably got tired of being called a childs nick name in college, and so he asked everyone to call him by his real name - Barack. There is nothing wrong with that. Many people in this country had nick names and have stopped using them for obvious reasons. We both know that if he had continued using his nick name, that these same ignorant yahoos would be saying things like "why is Barry Obama hiding his real name of Barack?" They'll make a mountain out of a mole hill and will try to stir up innuendo and trouble any way that they can, and unfortunately there are plenty of ignorant people who believe what they say.

This thread was created to discuss lies about someone. I like you Mebster and I have a GREAT deal of respect for you, in fact you're our favorite mod here. Our only question is why would you repost these lies about this presidential candidate? Seriously. What purpose does it serve? How could it be a 'valid question' if EVERYTHING that its based on is a lie? It would be like saying that he's gay or addicted to cocaine. I guess I could understand it if you didn't know that all of those things were based on lies but otherwise, I'm sorry, I just don't get what asking a false question proves

There seems to be two camps in the western world: those who think muslims are bloodthirsty terrorists who beat their wives five times a day, and those who think it's racist (or islamophobic) not to accept islam. In general neither of these two camps knows a lot about the religion.

Islam is strongly patriarchial (is that even a word? ). Men and women are equal in the eyes of God, but man is the head of family and of society. This is the role he's been given by God. Men and women have specific duties and rules to follow. I'm an individualist so I can't respect that, and I wouldn't want a president with that mindset. Islam is also about acknowledging the quran as the ultimate truth; if you believe the quran is wrong it's because you don't understand it.

The islamic world rejected the constitution of human rights and wrote their own instead: The Cairo Declaration of Human Rights

In short I wouldn't want a president who rubs his personal faith in the face of his people.

The reason I made this thread is to show what the right wing nutjobs are doing.

You know there are technically left wing nutjobs too, just like there are extremist muslims and extremist Christians.

Absolutely, but I haven't seen any left wing nutjob e-mails going around and there aren't any on snopes. The ones going around on McCain are true.

...by imitating them?

So you support Obama's stance to bomb Iran, as well as his stance on FISA to spy on Americans?

I suppose I'm wasting my time to ask you to post a credible link

The bottom line is that you will NEVER find anyone that will be 100% perfect in everything.

All things being equal though, anything is better than another 4 years of McBush

His stance on Iran is the only reason why I don't support him.


I'd like to point out I definitely don't support Mcain either!

I do not support his stance on Iran (however I believe the other candidates to choose from are more bloodthirsty about Iran than Obama has been, I think he is trying to act like a hard-ass about the middle east because there are a lot of people out there who think that he's Muslim and hes trying to prove "NO IM NOT NO IM NOT NO IM NOT" and I get that...although I don't respect it.

I don't support the FISA bill either, but if you know about some of Obama's stands on the government it makes a little more sense. I think that what Obama is going for is expanded powers to see what citizens are doing but he has also advocated being able to see what the government is doing too, open the blinds on both sides so to speak, so ANYONE can see what ANYBODY is doing, government and citizen alike.

Also, he's changed a bit since the primary race started to heat up, I think his original stands are accurate to what he will do, I think hes just playing multiple parts trying to get elected though, we cant really tell until he's elected. This country doesn't let candidates be themselves without losing the race so its no wonder that in every election in recent memory we find ourselves saying "the lesser of two evils" all so often. If we want to fix our problems with the people we elect, the most important part is changing the press.

I still have to say, that I maintain the idea, and still advocate that any sort of "Change" starts with US. We the People. Not with some baldheaded old bastard that wants to be dictator, wether it be McCrotch, or Osama.

No, he is not Muslim, and no McCain is not a conservative. I don't see where these wacky ideas come from anyway.

McCain is a hardcore mass murdering genocidal Hitler loving maniac that can't even stand a foot in the fascist military without his dear daddy. Osamba is a statist Stalin loving nutjob that wants to bring in radical marxist groups to gun down people in the streets.

Neither are conservative, or liberal. They are both statists. They love their job, and their $10,000 suit more than they love any of you.

Do you have any proof that any of that is even remotely true?

For one, McCain GLADLY solutes that horizantal bar Union War Flag. Which is the opposite of that Union Peace Flag that you have as your avatar. I don't sulute any union flag, but you are correct, as to your regional affairs.

McCain has said over, and over, that he wants to exterminate people in Iran. Obama has said he wouldn't rule out using nukes as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVU-kgV7B_s

What is preventing you guys from going out and doing your own research? Killbot has come to his own conclusion based on the facts he has researched. The only thing really, that me and killbot disagree on, as far as who runs the show, is to the extent of their power, range of influence, and technology.

The quote in my post should have been cut down, because I do not want McCain to be President. I think that McCain is one of the worst things that could ever happen to this country, aside from Still President Bush. While Obama and I don't agree on anything, I do believe that he is the best candidate, definitely better than McCain. Even though the President I want will most likely win, I can't stand living in this country anymore. I don't feel safe, and I don't feel like I have any privacy here. The government has too much power, but I don't think that is the root of the problem. The problem is the people in the government. The people of the Bush Administration are horrible people and they should all be prosecuted for their crimes. I'm thinking of moving to Canada in the coming years, by 2011. But who knows, things could be much better then; but I doubt it.

I couldn't agree more. Anything is better than McLame.


Guess this would be a bad time to tell you that the other day bush signed into law where they listen in on your phone conversations

I don't feel safe, and I don't feel like I have any privacy here.I don't feel safe, and I don't have any privacy here.

ie, a pile of bodies

A pile of something