Takuro
Jun 10 2008, 03:28 PM
After yesterday's tumultuous excitement over MobileMe, the iPhone 3G, and Snow Leopard, another unannounced development has slipped under the radar. Today, Apple released an early preview of Safari 4.0 on its Apple Developer Connection website. Just a little over a year since betas of the Safari 3 browser began to become available to the public, its successor promises to begin laying down the foundation of the next iteration of the Mac OS X operating system - Snow Leopard. Like Snow Leopard, Safari 4 is primarily focused on performance enhancements, especially in its underlying WebKit engine, rather than new features and UI changes, scoring an impressive 98% on the Acid 3 test.
Currently, this early preview of Safari 4 is only available to developers and requires Safari 3.1.1 to install the update. As of this morning, it has also been spotted aboard a certain pirate ship docked in a bay.
1ker
Jun 10 2008, 02:47 PM
lol Cool!
I hope it will be improved like faster browsing...
Paranoid Marvin
Jun 10 2008, 02:52 PM
Just as I was about to be a Firefox convert, Apple pulls another rabbit out the hat...
Sherry Haibara
Jun 10 2008, 04:01 PM
That's fast! I thought it would have been available just as part of Snow Leopard Developer Preview, but as I see it's public for every developer.
98% in acid3 it's impressive, although Safari 3.1.1 + the latest WebKit nightly build gain 100% score.
Sherry Haibara
codylcran
Jun 10 2008, 03:06 PM
God !!!
Installed the win version, passed acid 3 100/100
swimhguy
Jun 10 2008, 05:13 PM
man installing that caused every single application on my computer to unexpectedly quit. good thing it had an uninstall package!!
Levkovski - Think Unique
Jun 10 2008, 04:19 PM
Any major new UI changes?
Numberzz
Jun 10 2008, 05:33 PM
Nope, no changes in the UI.

But also, I rule

Levkovski - Think Unique
Jun 10 2008, 04:40 PM
Ooooh, I got screenied

But isn't that Font Size button new?
Dr. Watz0n
Jun 10 2008, 05:56 PM
No, you can add it to the toolbar in 3.1.
Levkovski - Think Unique
Jun 10 2008, 05:02 PM
Yeah, I just realised that as soon as I'd clicked 'Add reply' XD
codylcran
Jun 10 2008, 05:04 PM
Is there a way in safari for win to open downloads with double click ?
macgirl
Jun 10 2008, 06:06 PM
Font size button is there (well not installed in the toolbar as default but available for customization) since first Safari (Jaguar or 10.2 times)
Levkovski - Think Unique
Jun 10 2008, 05:07 PM
QUOTE
Font size button is there (well not installed in the toolbar as default but available for customization) since first Safari (Jaguar or 10.2 times)
You don't have to rub it in XD
Dr. Watz0n
Jun 10 2008, 06:34 PM
Finally. Safari now has Windows Cleartype font smoothing. Thank the lord.
DsurioN
Jun 10 2008, 06:37 PM
By the way, you don't need to have a select or premium membership to get this - just register a free ADC developer account and you'll have access to the download at developer.apple.com.
What I
would like to see aboard this certain pirate ship docked in a bay, however, is the full Snow Leopard Developer Preview

The hunt is on...
Luminaire
Jun 10 2008, 07:31 PM
QUOTE(Dr. Watz0n @ Jun 10 2008, 06:34 PM)

Finally. Safari now has Windows Cleartype font smoothing. Thank the lord.
What? This is one of the reasons I switched to OSX. Or are you just talking about thw Windows version?
Chrysaor
Jun 10 2008, 09:31 PM
QUOTE(Dr. Watz0n @ Jun 10 2008, 12:34 PM)

Finally. Safari now has Windows Cleartype font smoothing. Thank the lord.
You can use ClearType with Safari 3 (at least with Webkit nightlies), just need to change a setting.
0o0
Jun 11 2008, 12:06 AM
k that last line cranked me up lol
FabricioGS
Jun 11 2008, 12:50 AM
QUOTE(Takuro @ Jun 10 2008, 12:28 PM)

As of this morning, it has also been spotted aboard a certain pirate ship docked in a bay.
LOL. You guys are soooo creative
BrumBrum74
Jun 11 2008, 04:18 AM
Is there a way to install this without having to upgrade to 10.5.3?
Synaesthesia
Jun 11 2008, 07:49 AM
If you get the latest webkit nightly build at
webkit.org, you basically get all the new features of the Safari 4 preview...
Fatherless One
Jun 11 2008, 11:32 AM
So will this install on Tiger assuming I already have Version 3.1.1 (4525.18)?
shaybc
Jun 11 2008, 01:26 PM
i have downloaded it and installed it, i can see no change in speed or performance (yet), ajax and java script systems run normally, the web application thing, i saw some product that does this while back ago (can't remember the name), so is it a rip off? (won't be apples first time) or did they buy him.
any way if i find any thing new i will let you know.
rollcage
Jun 11 2008, 07:53 PM
QUOTE(shaybc @ Jun 11 2008, 09:26 AM)

i have downloaded it and installed it, i can see no change in speed or performance (yet), ajax and java script systems run normally, the web application thing, i saw some product that does this while back ago (can't remember the name), so is it a rip off? (won't be apples first time) or did they buy him.
any way if i find any thing new i will let you know.
Fluid for webkit and Prism for the gecko engine add SSB functionality. I don't known if you could call it apple ripping them off, it's probably much of the same relationship apple has with webkit.
commissio
Jun 12 2008, 12:32 AM
All you need do is
1. Register for a
FREE developer account at
https://connect.apple.com 2. Read and Accept Agreement, You must NOT post anything from the ADC on this site or the big wide interweb, otherwise we all get banned!! and Mr Jobs will send out the spank elfs.
3 Then Log In, Then Click On Downloads.
4. Then download the appropriate version for your operating system : Tiger, Leopard or Windows. This preview release is English only.
It is not rocket science

Additionally it is very fast and the new Create Web Application from page is funky ; it will save it as an application ( .app file) with working buttons , independent of safari , i believe just for safari enabled macs (need to research what will happen to pc version)
Naruto Uzumaki
Jun 12 2008, 12:45 AM
never mind I set the thing up on my own from reading the instructions.
commissio
Jun 12 2008, 12:47 AM
Follow the step i mentioned above, the following instructions are included with the download:
QUOTE
IMPORTANT: Installation Requirements
Please download the appropriate version for your operating system : Tiger, Leopard or Windows. This preview release is English only.
On Tiger, Safari 4 Developer Preview requires a previously installed version of Safari 3.1.1. If you do not have Safari 3.1.1 installed on your system, download and install Safari 3.1.1 from
http://www.apple.com/safari/download/The File is not generally available, you are given license to test, hence you need to register.
((harsh but thats what they want)) Install at your own risk, from many hours useage, No problems at all..
roscoe13
Jun 12 2008, 03:20 AM
A reboot for a browser update? Is Apple reading from Micro$oft's playbook now :-(
rollcage
Jun 12 2008, 04:16 AM
QUOTE(roscoe13 @ Jun 11 2008, 11:20 PM)

A reboot for a browser update? Is Apple reading from Micro$oft's playbook now :-(
Thinking that it is because of the update to javascript. The reboot is worth it though.
macgirl
Jun 12 2008, 04:27 AM
Safari affects other programs, browsing with iTunes require "Safari engine" AFAIK, so reboot to take the new components in place is required.
QuickTime also requires reboot.
roscoe13
Jun 12 2008, 04:31 AM
Quicktime shouldn't require a reboot either. They're both APPLICATIONS, not operating system components..
methamp
Jun 12 2008, 05:02 AM
QUOTE(roscoe13 @ Jun 11 2008, 11:20 PM)

A reboot for a browser update? Is Apple reading from Micro$oft's playbook now :-(
A reboot for Safari 4? Yikes. Hopefully that's just a "preview" and not the real thing.
lord_muad_dib
Jun 12 2008, 08:14 AM
woahh safari4 is faaast!, and other apps using safari's framework are blazing fast too now.
adium goes smooth like a glow now!!! try to resize a chat window... no more stuttering
gizmų
Jun 12 2008, 10:36 AM
did anyone find "Save as web application" useful?
Fatherless One
Jun 12 2008, 12:05 PM
I've installed Safari 4 onto my Hack running Tiger 10.4.11 and all is good
Synaesthesia
Jun 12 2008, 02:12 PM
QUOTE
Quicktime shouldn't require a reboot either. They're both APPLICATIONS, not operating system components..
No, Webkit and Quicktime are core OS X components. That's why you need to reboot whenever you update them.
Aluminum Sponge
Jun 17 2008, 12:24 AM
QUOTE(Synaesthesia @ Jun 12 2008, 10:12 AM)

No, Webkit and Quicktime are core OS X components. That's why you need to reboot whenever you update them.
D'oh!! Wow....... sometimes I wonder how these kind of people manage to get OSx86 installed in the first place without the (apparent) slightest bit of knowledge of the Mac OS X system architecture.......
macgirl
Jun 17 2008, 04:52 PM
QUOTE(roscoe13 @ Jun 11 2008, 11:31 PM)

Quicktime shouldn't require a reboot either. They're both APPLICATIONS, not operating system components..
Yes, QuickTime (the application) does not require you to restart, but when Apple updates Quicktime they do not update only the App but a lot of it's components, and some of them are System (core of Mac OS) that other applications use not only QuickTime the app.
MrRogers
Jun 20 2008, 09:17 PM
Meh.. it's okay, but I'm sticking with FF3...
diogan
Jun 21 2008, 03:39 AM
I installed 4.0 earlier and noticed a difference immediately. Not an "OMG I JUST BURNED A HOLE IN MY ROUTER z0rz" fast, but a definite improvement in page load time. No idea yet on java as I haven't used anything with it yet.
Stravaganza
Jun 21 2008, 07:13 AM
Is there an option for "Close download dialog box after done" sort of thing in this preview version?
diogan
Jun 21 2008, 05:20 PM
QUOTE(Stravaganza @ Jun 21 2008, 02:13 AM)

Is there an option for "Close download dialog box after done" sort of thing in this preview version?
No, at least not that I've seen, anyway. The Preferences are pretty much the same as they were in previous versions.
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