10.5.3 is finally available as a downloadable update. The update itself weighs in at a hefty 420MB. As with most Apple updates, it wasn't very descriptive, stating only:

As with all updates, DON'T INSTALL, unless you have a vanilla kernel, or until some more testing has been done. There aren't many visual changes with this update, but now you have the opinion to backup or not when you are on a laptop with Time Machine.



Here are all the General fixes, all the others can be found in the read link at the bottom of the article.

-Includes additional RAW image support for several cameras
-Addresses an issue with stuttering video and audio playback in certain USB devices
-Improves 802.1X (Wifi) behavior and reliability and when using Time Machine
-Includes fixes for Time Machine compatibility with Time Capsule
-Fixes a font issue that could result in Helvetica Narrow being used in applications instead of Helvetica.
-Resolves stability issues with Word of the Day, iTunes Artwork, and Slideshow screen savers.
-Fixes an issue in which certain attached hard drives may not show up in the Finder.
-Addresses an issue with .Mac syncing of Dashboard widgets over multiple Macs that use different screen resolutions.
-Includes additional RAW image support for several cameras.
-Improves the accuracy of the Software Update progress bar indicator.
-Addresses an issue in which Finder may not be available if the computer name is blank in Sharing preferences.



All Fixes

Hey Numberzz, not sure if you saw this:
http://netkas.org/?p=65

which leads to:
http://netkas.org/?p=50 (it's the same tutorial from 10.5.2, just with a new title).

Should be fine for those of us running vanilla kernel, but those with a hacked kernel probably want to wait for some more news.

Thanks, I edited the original post.

Oh good to know! Unfortunally, my pc isn't using vanilla kernel.

So how would I go about telling which kernel I'm running? I used the Kalyway 10.5.2 disc, but it's been over a month and I can't for the life of me remember which I used. Plus I installed that NVInstaller thing that was supposed to fix vid card sleep . . .

Maybe I'll just wait until there's a 10.5.3 disc and reinstall. Need to do that soon anyway.

I'm going to wait till someone writes a guide in understandable english....
No offense to netkas, but I can barely understand his guides - I'm not going to risk it.

I'm on a vanilla kernel, but is it safe to just straight out install the update, or should I be worrying about it breaking anything?

Hi

I just want to report that I successfully updated my T60 from 10.5.2 to 10.5.3, following Netkas' method. This is the same method that applied to updating to 10.5.2. You can find it on his website.

Had to re-apply the mod to ATIRadeonX1000.kext's contents and I had to restore my old IO80211Family.kext to get the wireless back up.

I can;t find the Time Machine option to backup when on battery though?

Anyway, System Profiler shows I'm up-to-date:



edit: I had to restore my powermanagement.bundle for Leopard to detect I'm on a laptop, and the new Tiome Machine feature is there now.

In the Time Machine preferences, click on options and it should be there.

I was running a vanilla kernel with 10.5.2, did the update and had a kernel panic during the installation process. Now i can't reboot at all

You probably forgot to remove AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext as soon as it was created. It rebuilt the kextcache, loading the installed kext, and crashed your system. Perhaps you can try to recover by booting with -s, follow the instructions for mounting your hard drive as read/write, then type:



I can't garatuee that this will work, though.

Next time, look here: http://netkas.org/?p=50

it's work for my, just I'd follow the netkas 10.5.2's guide, netkas your rocks!! (sorry my bad english ), and restored the appleSMBIOSkext from 10.5.2, thanks macdotnub and the appleHDA.kext

My Hack

Core 2 Duo 6300 1,86 ghz
Asus P5LD2-VM SE (and P5LD2-VM)
2 gb ram Kingston 667 DDR2
160 GB HDD Western Digital SataII
ASUS EN7300GT with natit dual (thank you guys!!)
ALC882 with Taruga's patch 1,20 (thanks Taruga)

I see, I had to restore my PowerManagement.bundle for it to recognise I was on a laptop. The checkbox is there now.

Ohh thanks i totally forgot to do this ! Before posting here, i tried to boot my hack in single user mode and there was indeed a problem with this kext. I hope the KP during the update did not break my system. I'll try tomorrow when i get home.

I am also in this situation. It would be nice for someone to rewrite his tut, it look like its rock solid but i can seem to understand alot of it.

I will extrapolate here on some of were my problems are in the guide. I have highlighted in Red And Bold where my misunderstanding is.
---START---
Open Terminal/Finder/etc, go to System/Library/Extensions. start installing update.
What goes where etc is?
Monitor System/Library/Extensions folder, once AppleIntelCPUPowermanagement.kext appears there - remove it immideatly.
u can use this little script for it, run as root, before starting upgrade
while sleep 1 ; do rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions/AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext ; done
While in sleep 1? What does this mean?
Do i run this script before, after, or as soon as i see the file appear?
once update finished, press ctrl-c in terminal window, to stop script, don’t press restart !
after it, open this file in textedit - /System/InstallAtStartup/scripts/1
find there string /System/Library/Extensions/Dont Steal Mac OS X.kext
and replace with this string /System/Library/Extensions/dsmos.kext or r3d3 if u use r3d3.
then save it.
This just means replace a file path, right?. how do i know if i use r3d3?
now u can recover ur applesmbios/applehda/etc (didn;’t u forget to make backups b4 running update ?)
and finaly press restart.
How do i recover it?
on first start it will do smth, without booting to gui, then it will reboot, it can take about 3-4 mins, then it shuld boot normaly, if u didn;t forget smth.
smth? Huh? Whats that?
of course it’s all for intel core 2 based cpus and intel mobos. and pc_efi.
other users can use 10.5.1 kernel/system.kext with 10.5.2 system (like amd users or pentium-d)
I have a pentium 4 processor, 2.66 Ghz, Will it work? What do i have to do special?
---END---
I know for a fact that I would like a more descriptive tutorial. Other than that the tutorial is great, and the feedback on it looks good too.

For people with QE/CI problem and giving a futile retry with NVInstaller.41:

You have to use Pacifist to force replace those kexts and framework. Apparently, NVinstaller does not force delete the newest versions of kexts and framework and replace them with old ones. In pacifist, authorize yourself, then when asked, apply replace to all (choose the dont ask ask again for this installation option from the pop up window). Everything will work fine and dandy now.

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=761801

Same here. I selected a bunch of kernal options when I installed. How do I know which one is the default one?

This update disabled QE/CI for me. Fix below:
Update: I installed the NATIT_gfnvidia (attached) package off of the Kalyway DVD to get QE/CI back on both monitors. I got rid of NVinject completely.

1-Try removing NVinject by going to terminal and typing:
-->sudo rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions/NVinject.kext
2-And then installing this package (Natit Installer) reboot. If you have QE/CI back then you are done. If not try this method: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry761801

This method worked for me. Backup/Replace AppleSMBIOS.kext with the one you had that was working before. Specs are in signature. Screen shot:

Click to view attachment

Natit Installer (worked on my 10.5.3 to get QE/CI back)

Hi

The purpose of that script is to monitor the folder for you, and as soon as it 'sees' the file in question, it will remove it. I'm going into the complete working of all of the parameters of the script.

Note that on your Pentium 4, this guide will probably not work. Please wait for other P4 users to come up with a guide for you.
What you'll probably need to do, is use Pacifist to remove System.kext and mach_kernel from the install package, and then run it (using the guide below). Can't promise anything though!


For Core2Duo users:

0. Always backup your /System/Library/Extensions folder first.

1. Download the 10.5.3 Combo Update from the Apple website

2. run Terminal and type:

then type your password
then paste

and hit enter
(nothing seems to happen but it is now monitoring your Extensions folder for the AppleInterCPUPowerManagement.kext file (folder))

You can, for safety, open a Finder window in the folder /System/Library/Extensions and look for that file (sort by filename of course), and you willl see it'll be removed automatically within a few seconds after it's created in step 3.

3. Run the MacOSXUpd10.5.3.pkg file in the MacOSXUpd10.5.3.dmg you just downloaded, and follow the instructions, but do not reboot at the end.

4. When the installation finishes, do not press reboot. Go back to your terminal window and hit ctrl+c. This will stop the script from running. In my case, there was some kind of error, but that's okay.

5. type

A very simple text editor within Terminal will appear. Note you can't use your mouse to click to a certain line/point. 'Walk down' using your arrow keys to the line that contains
In this line, replace with

Now hit ctrl+o, enter, ctrl+x (this first saves the file, confirms it, then closes the editor).

Type and close Terminal.

6. Return to the installer window and click reboot. If you need to restore some kexts, you can do that before or after rebooting, doesn't really matter. I recommend doing it after rebooting, to see which things still work (so you have the latest drivers for those).

It will reboot, right up until the point that the screen would usually turn blue, then reboot again, and all should be well. I guess it has to reboot twice to execute the commands within the /System/InstallAtStartup/scripts/1 file we just edited, and has to reboot again after that.

Hope this clears it up a little.

It looks multiple threads for 10.5.3 are growing up and makes things confusing.

Please close this thread for responses or use only to discuss peripheral issues for this update. Instead, its better to use the 10.5.3 thread below to keep consistency (and avoid redundancy):

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=107340

Proper directions are also provided in that tutorial.

aasimbeck01:

a: use either terminal or finder, or etc. means your favorite file browser

b: 'while sleep 1' is a command that waits a second, then performs what is after the semicolon every second.

You should open terminal and run this script before you update.

c: that means edit the file, and change that one line of the file. You do not use r3d3.

d: make a backup copy of your applesmbios, applehda, whatever other drivers you feel are important and put them back where you got them in case they were overwritten.

e: smth is something. If you didn't forget to do something it will boot.

f: if you have a P4 processor you are not using the vanilla kernel, so you have to wait for a hacked kernel and cannot use this process.

It´s kind of cool you guys having troubles understanding us non English speakers this is something we experience all the time. And the really funny thing is it´s pretty much only cause of all the TV shows, movies, lyrics from songs etc. you´ve been bombarding us with throughout the years and ofcourse our schools teaching us english and lately the internet that we can have this conversation at all. Payback time looks like the English language is up for an adjustment towards how the international community needs it to function. Yeah it´s a pain in the but having to be able to understand and write in multiple languages, welcome to our reality .

Awesome! I'm gonna wait till someone comes up with an easy 10.5.3 installer though

kaly and jas and eddie better get to work :-)

Any updated sleep kernel yet for this version?

Yes you do CLiDe

*love my macbook

I think he was joking

i still bear hope for GMA950 fix for Dell Laptops - sigh

Tried this and mine won't boot either. Get the apple logo but just sits there with no HD activity and then get the panic icon.

I did backup my extensions but which kext files need to be restored? All of them?

I scanned with Marvin's AMD Utility and it has 7 encrypted files and 49 CPUIDs!
This update will definitely break an AMD install.

Then I cant wait for an AMD update guide.

Or use Devin's guide here:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=87078

Glad to hear it came out! I am thinking about re-installing over Kalyway 10.5.2 and replacing it with a hacked 10.5.3 iso image (when one comes out). Plus VGA/HDMI/S-Video doesn't work on my 8600M GS. Only internal screen works.

And btw, has anybod noticed that the previous youtube beta video player is now complete. The same day Leopard gets updated, do does youtube! Hmm, maybe its a conspiracy... lol

This should work, meantime a modded update is released: 10.5.2 for the AMD impatient

Stuck it on a 10.5.2 drive I had around. Killed it. But it had problems before that, so I don't know if 10.5.3 is to blame...

I ran my update following netkas's method and it worked fine. See below for my stats

Ran on ECS 945-gct 1333 vanilla and worked great. Had to use pacifist to get my 8600GT working with CI / QE again. Fully working with restart and shutdown. I never have got sleep to work on this mobo.


Thank you all, MAN I love this forum.

Interesting: I followed netkas' guide to upgrade to 10.5.3, and it killed my AHCI. Boot would hang on searching root partition.
So I deactivated AHCI in bios, and it went smoothly through the upgrade.
Maybe this helps someone.

This is a
GA-P35-DS3L
Intel E2160 at 3 GHZ
2 x 1 GB DDR-800
XFX 8600 GT 512 MB
4 x 250 GB Samsung SATA
EFI 8

Woah, that sounds funky. I have the same mobo, but I haven't tried the update yet myself. What release are you running?

Additional info:

GA-P35-DS3L Rev 1.0, Bios v7

Upgrade from 10.5.2 original leopard dvd install - mostly vanilla (+dsmos, nvinject installer 41, realtek 1000 driver for rendezvous bonjour, AL888)

After upgrade:
- AHCI no longer works
- QE no longer works on the 8600 gt > you have to force install nvinject installer, overwriting the newer kexts
- network and audio are fine

Look at this upgrade thread for help Upgrade Guide for 10.5.3

For AMD users, I would advise everyone to hold off this update and wait for a confirmation from those who are very generous to risk their current installations in order to try this update out.

Hmmm, were you using modified AppleAHCIPort/IOAHCIFamily/IOATAFamily kexts before this? Perhaps the update overwrote the kexts and maybe you need to replace them? Damn. I'm getting worried now PM me if you don't know what I'm talking about and I'll send you those kexts to try your luck.

I have a somewhat same mobo family. Could you send me those kext's as well? I backed up my Extensions folder. Maybe I'll just try and replace those that you mention.

After updating to 10.5.3 I noticed a drastic drop in framerates in wow, at 1920x1200 it's around 20fps, when switching back to the nvidia kexts from 10.5.2, I had framerate again between 50-60 fps , also the xbench graphic score was lower with 10.5.3 nvidia kexts about 10 points

hmmm weird

Installed on two quad Hack Pros last night. Followed this guide:
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=87078
*Make sure you back up your kernel extensions*. These were required as a backup for ALC889a sound as well as 8600GT 256MB graphics (QE and CI lost). The 8800GT gained performance by about 3% in XBench and didn't need old kexts, the new ones worked.
Looks sweet, bootup is faster.

Also having the exact same problem and I was indeed using modified AppleAHCIPort/IOAHCIFamily/IOATAFamily kexts before upgrading. If you could upload those kexts that would be superb, thanks.

Ok, the three files are here, for those who need them. They worked for me on 10.5.2 on a GA-P35-DS3L. Have fun.

http://rapidshare.com/files/118595843/Archive.zip.html

I followed the netkas instructions and was able to update my machine. Following the update I had to reinstall AppleSMBIOS and repatch AppleHDA. Also I'm using natit for my nvidia card; I saw comments saying nvinject no longer works.

Back up your kernel extensions

It will overwrite them. But make sure you have copies for anything that doesn't work.

10.5.3 Fixes and changes

General
Fixes a font issue that could result in Helvetica Narrow being used in applications instead of Helvetica.
Addresses an issue with stuttering video and audio playback in certain USB devices.
Resolves stability issues with Word of the Day, iTunes Artwork, and Slideshow screen savers.
Fixes an issue in which certain attached hard drives may not show up in the Finder.

AirPort
Improves 802.1X behavior and reliability.
Improves reliability when using Time Capsule.

iChat
Addresses reliability issues with screen sharing.
Resolves an issue in which saved chat transcripts may reported as "still in use" after opening and closing them in iChat.
Resolves an issue with group chats not being indexed in Spotlight.
Only the last 250 messages of an active chat are saved. Fixed to save unlimited number of lines.

Mail
Resolves an issue in which Mail may prevent idle sleep when set to automatically check for new messages every minute.
Addresses stability issues that may be encountered when dragging large attachments into an email message.
Fixes an issue that could occur if two compose windows are open when dragging a file to the Mail icon in the Dock.

Parental Controls
Addresses reliability issues with application logging and time limits.
Resolves an issue in which Parental Controls may prevent forced sleep.
Addresses performance issues with web content filters.
Fixes an issue with managed accounts in which iChat transcripts may not be created.
Addresses issues with 4-byte files and whitelist.

Spaces
Resolves an issue in which switching to a different space and returning back to the original space may reorder the application windows with a different active window.
Resolves an issue in which activating an application from the Dock switches to a different space, even if there is a window for that application in the current space.

Time Machine
Includes fixes for Time Machine compatibility with Time Capsule.
Resolves certain issues when backing up a portable Mac that is on battery power.
Addresses compatibility issues with Aperture 2.
Addresses reliability issues when performing a full restore from a Time Machine backup.

I started the process on my 10.5.2 (vanilla kernel if I remember right), monitored the extensions folder and deleted the Intel power management kext when it came up. Shortly there after (maybe 5-6 seconds) I had a kernel panic and now when loading with verbose mode the boot seems to hang at:

after which nothing happens. Tried loading my retail leopard dvd to see if I could get that to boot and it didn't work (not sure if I should be surprised by that) and my Kalyway disc found itslef in the trash a few days ago so I'm redownloading that.

anybody have an idea of what could be the problem?

This is running on a P5W-DH with what should be the latest BIOS