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Oxtie
EDIT 24 NOV 2008: I'm keeping this first post as simple and updated as I can (Drivers updated to 1.2b1 @ Page19)...
EUGENE GAVRILOV
So where are the DRIVERS???? What's his NAME???? smile.gif YES Click the name above!!! or Direct Download link
Don't you dare post a comment without reading rest of this first post!
X-Fi Users, kX will not support X-Fi series click here and here to request and here to discuss about X-Fi (or here to chat @ unofficial creative dev channel --> irc://irc.freenode.net/creative )
QUOTE(Eugene Gavrilow @ DH)
hi smile.gif

1.2b1 (BETA) version is out.

Changes:

* Fixed issues with 10k1-based cards [noise after some minutes]
* Fixed some of Kernel Panics

Features:
* 16-bit or 24-bit playback on most 10k1/10k2 cards (depending on card model)
* supports up to 8 speakers (configure speaker configuration in OS X 'Audio and MIDI' panel)
* should support SPDIF and headphones outputs, if applicable
* supports external modules (LiveDrive)
* supports hardware-accelerated volume control and mute, but not RemoteIR or onboard volume controls

Unimplemented:
* SPDIF+AC-3 passthrough
* 16/24-bit recording
* kX DSP and routing, no custom DSP effects, unless you upload them by using kxctrl
* SoundFonts and MIDI
* hot-plug for PCMCIA device (Audigy2 ZS notebook) - surprise removal will probably cause a lock-up or kernel panic
* any sampling rate except 48000Hz not supported, OS X uses built-in SRC, which is quite good

Known issues:
* E-mu E-DSP cards are now supported the same way they are under Windows version of the kX driver. In order to upload FPGA firmware after reboot, open Terminal and type 'edspctrl'. It should initialize FPGA firmware and any dock stations you have. Note that if you reboot after Windows, and you were running Creative drivers, you need to reset FPGA firmware. Type 'edspctrl -reset'. Use this command 'edspctrl -reset' if you don't here anything after reboot or power-on.
* power management is not fully functional, you may need to reset the card or unload/reload the driver after 'Sleep' or 'Hibernation'.
* 'kxctrl' does not support SoundFonts
* 'kX Manager' application currently does nothing. Ignore it
If you get Kernel Panics or system locks up, do the following:

* Reboot OS X
* At darwin boot prompt [before the 'gray apple' logo] add the following commands:
-v -debug=0x144
* This will enable verbose start-up and will display more information during kernel panic

After you get a new kernel panic [make sure to start your OS X with the options mentioned above], write down the following information:
* EIP address of the error (EIP: 0xXXXXXXXX)
* Address of the kX driver: "com.kXProject.driver.kXAudioDriver(1.2b1)@0xAAAAA AAA->0xBBBBBBBB"
* Backtrace (CPU 0) Frame. This is show in the following way:
0xCCCCCCC : 0xDDDDDDDD (0xEEEEE 0xFFFF ....)
...
until "Backtrace terminated"
and "BSD process name corresponding to current thread"

Don't send me any screenshots of your display, unless your image is perfectly readable!



E.



These drivers are released by Eugene Gavrilov (Lead programmer of KX-Project) and his team

|| [/size]The official home of kX Project[size="2"] || OSX Main Thread || BUG Report Page || Donations ||
(VISA & MasterCard accepted, Western Union name: Eugene Gavrilov, city: St. Petersburg, Russia)
Discuss about OSX version at main thread, Discuss BUGs at BUG report page, (and here if you want to confirm)


The supported cards: EMU10K(1&2) [ Live!, Audigy(1&2)!, EMU E-DSP]
(Audigy SE/LS which is not EMU10K(1 or 2) will not work!)
EMU E-DSP users: Read the release notes properly (known issues)
ONLY these mentioned Creative cards and EMU Cards are most likely going to work now or in near future!

The supported OS: Tiger and Leopard editions
Works On: IATKOS 4i, LEO4ALL-v3, KALYWAY 10.5.3, JaS 10.5.4 CS, iDeneb, Leo4Allv4x
The driver supports Multichannel up to 7.1 and works on x86 based system ONLY (AMD too i guess wink.gif ).

NEW ISSUES: (Report here to confirm with others)
1. No sound after resume

NOT WORKING? Perform these general checks and post replies:
0. Checked Compatiblity list above?
1. Cable connections checked from behind? On proper port? ond NOT on Mic port? 
2. Audio Midi Setup set with appropriate speakers? Performed Speaker Test?
3. Speakers Powered ON? Power Cables checked?
4. HeadPhones plugged in resulting in Mute?
5. Any other drivers conflicting? OnBoard Audio disabled in BIOS? (Onboard drivers for Azalia / AppleHDA known to conflict)
6. Is Device's name mentioned properly in Audio Midi setup? eg. "kX 0350 etc" (Application \ Utilities)
7. "Intel ICH and PIIX Controller" was enabled in your OSX setup? unchecked Azalia, AppleHDA in setup?
8. Volume Controls checked? tongue.gif  
9. Earlier versions working on your system? (have you tried earlier versions? see my signature for download links)
10. Your sound works on XP/Vist???? (and with kX drivers for Windows???)
11. BIOS shows information that PCI card is inserted properly?
12. Tried other Distros such as JaS, Kalyway, Leo4All? etc? tongue.gif
13. Sound comes when you put your headphones ON? in the headphones port?
Bass/Treble misc problems?  Listen these Test MP3s
_____________________________________________
Hagar's post below was in response to my first original (unedited post) and had nothing to do with my current edited post.
Hagar
(update: 12. aug 2008 *NOW* there is something to get excited about smile.gif )

------------------ Out of date Information ------------------------------------
I managed to download these beta drivers, but as expected, they are ppc, to the extent that they still include "jaguar" in the filename. There was once an attempt at writing emu10k drivers for os x/intel, but I don't think it got off the ground.

so as before, there are no drivers for pci soundblaster live/audigy.

Just so that people don't get the wrong idea from the title of this topic: there *never were* any intel drivers, and until someone decides to write some, that is how it remains.


[edit] nevermind your next post reveals that you haven't read what I posted. figure it out for yourself.
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Oxtie
Major Events: (Pagewise)
Page 1&2 Eugene addresses Live! Audigy Fans!
Page 3 (First pub Alfa drivers 1.0b2 were released)
Page 5 (Distortion bug work around discovered)
Page 6 (1.0b3 was released with 24/48
Page 6 7 8 (Automated distortion work arounds by fans)
Page 10 (Release of a cool driver 1.1b0)
Page 11 (1.1b1 was released (kernal panics tongue.gif ))
Page 12 (E gives details on hallab query for Live! distortion)
Page 14 (E gives many infos @ DH)
Page 16 (E releases 1.2b0 (lockups))
Page 18 (Workaround for lockups and freeze)
Page 19 (E Releases another awesome driver 1.2b1) (fixed lockups etc)
Page 20 Eugene decided to axe power management issues smile.gif (obviously he'z working on something cooler)




I'm editing this post to give some info on how it started here...

At first it was all installation, a DD image file torrent of OSX floated (never worked biggrin.gif ) an year later, found many entries at MiniNov related to OSX so gave Leo4allv3 another shot (which worked!!) Like all others, hunted for drivers (obviously didn't find any) so looked for drivers for any os/osx (which could lead me to developer) and found plenty including kX for Win32. At first, I went to kX home and thought it would never work since the project is looking OLD, besides It was unusual as creative was already offering it (never tried that kx version at that point as it felt risky thinking of quality, errors, BSODs and OS reinstall). I found another dude who was going to write driver for OSX (an ex CT employee) but the date showed no response from him since ages and i never found any contact information either tongue.gif . Finally thought to go further in kX site to contact developer and spotted kX forums. Then it was spamming E's (pm, email, thread(s) etc) and out of no where got responses on ALL! While getting all the infos, I kept logging here what I've been up to and what were the responses... (below is the first response of all that). There were many posts earlier about my findings from scratch but I deleted those to make this page look neat. Hagar was annoyed by this thread's title which looked like "drivers are here" and was maintaining the usual optimistic response on my findings...

===================================== OLD INFO ===========

All right, as for good news on update, check my conversation with Lead Programmer kX smile.gif


> Hi, I happen to be a member of tiny community of OSX86, In this
> place there are people who actually make it possible to install OSX
> on standard P4 or sse2/3 or AMD systems. we are all currently stuck
> with Audio. Almost everything works except Audio made by Creative
> which has EMU10Kx on it.
>
> If any of you could join this forum to contribute, It would be
> great :-)

I might implement such driver this summer...
No promises, no release dates : )
E.

=============== See below responses to see what happened next====
eugene k2
hi : )

here I am

in order to proceed with development, I need to fix problems with CardBus driver on my laptop...
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry757390

without this, I cannot continue...
Oxtie
Oh Cool biggrin.gif Welcome to this forum tongue.gif , I'll subscribe to all your topics smile.gif

Not ricoh again! :\ everything made by Ricoh is such a pain, Ricoh web cam, Ricoh Flash card reader etc etc. I blame HP for this! But on the desktop side, I don't see Ricoh in my system (anywhere)... wacko.gif I've got a dv6395 and it suffers with the name "Ricoh".

If there is any driver you want me to test on desktop of mine, (with Dell Audigy2 ZS and Live! Platinum), "I can be that nice person" biggrin.gif
eugene k2
I will announce beta version of the Mac driver here as soon as it is ready, but will probably keep using driverheaven forum for updates, release notes etc...But this problem with PCMCIA adapter has definitely delayed my work on this driver...

I currently have a desktop PC running WinXP/Vista + E-mu card [not Creative, not yet supported even by kX drivers], and I cannot install OSX on this desktop, since this is my PC development machine, I have a MacBook, but cannot connect any of the Creative/E-mu devices to it [it has ExpressCard slot, but no PCMCIA], and another laptop - ASUS W3V - with Audigy2 ZS Notebook cardbus and OSX 10.4.10 installed and used for my Mac-related development (USB, firewire audio devices)...

If I could ever make this laptop recognize my audio card, I would release a beta version of the driver within 2-3 weeks...
---

By the way, if you have enough free time : ), could you please search the web for =linux= guys trying to make this combo work? [Ricoh + Audigy2 ZS Notebook]?
If I'm not mistaken, Tiger/Leopard cardbus driver is based on Linux driver, and if this configuration works in Linux, it should work in MacOS X if OSX cardbus driver is updated accordingly...
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Ricoh R/RL/5C476(II):
PCI\VEN_1180&DEV_0476&SUBSYS_19671043&REV_B3
Ricoh RL5C476 CardBus Controller

Windows assigns the following ports by default:
FD00-FDFF
FE00-FEFF

Memory:
000DF000-000DFFFF
CC000000-CFFFFFFF
FFB7E000-FFB7EFFF
FFB7F000-FFB7FFFF
IRQ: 17
Shadow4_22
OMG I just found this topic, this is awesome. I cant wait!!!! I can get everything working except for that stupid Audigy card. A computer without sound sucks!
Eugene, you are awsome and I cant wait to see what you come up with. YAY!! Good job llama!
DiegoMax
Hey Eugene, welcome to the insanelymac forums! it is really cool to see you here man!
I guess we can finally expect some progress in the SoundBlaster area now that you are around smile.gif

Respect.
Diego // KX User #2 tongue.gif
macgirl
Wow, > 210,000 registered members is a tiny community shock.gif
Oxtie
QUOTE(macgirl @ Jun 9 2008, 04:19 AM) *
Wow, > 210,000 registered members is a tiny community shock.gif


hehehe, the idea was to let him get shocked exactly like you biggrin.gif (why else I would use tiny unless I'm crazy) tongue.gif

Edit: The idea was to portrait the community as extra "HUGE" if you still don't get it smile.gif nevertheless, Since his last words from poll, i didn't see anything out so... tongue.gif had to use different words with flavours. "See the potential rather then me"
macgirl
The really small community are those who have Audigys on Mac OS X86.

Since I use Mac OS on my Desktop PC I switch the Speakers to the onboard sound chip, and even on Windows I use their analog and digital outputs, I didn't miss the Audigy at all.
s1mmo
OMG! thanks for that Lama. I was about to BUY a macbook pro since I was so annoyed I couldnt have sound on my hackintosh. Guess I'll wait for some drivers instead! weee
newbmac
This would be so HUGE for the entire Mac community. Mac Pro (real not hack) users could buy PCI soundblaster cards and use them if they chose over USB ones...

For OSx86 it would be just AMAZING!! My Soundblaster Audigy 2 zx has much better sound than my (nonfunctional in osx86) AD1981 on board sound.
2twisty
any update on this? I see that's its listed as "indefinately"now, but is there some idea of when? I've got 2 SB Audigy cards waiting here for drivers!
Tommyfox
wicked, this will be sweet as {censored}!

assuming it will work with Audigy 4 Pro?

and again, any idea of a release date at all?? thanks
Oxtie
My last actual communication with E was when he was on vacation however he has returned few days ago and immediately released an update on XP drivers (24/48 is now supported, so even I've updated the first page accordingly). If we look at these words (above), he was suppose to release drivers 2/3 weeks right after he fixed that problem he mentioned about BUT, it may have been delayed due to his vacation or personal life issues, or preparation of "Quality" drivers smile.gif either of ways, I can only assume and give you estimated month (which is August). I will try to call him here once for an update smile.gif
newbmac
Wow, unbelievable if there is PCI audio card function. Soundblaster Audigy 2 cards are going to be scarce on ebay if this happens smile.gif
eugene k2
status update:

I fixed the issue with my PCMCIA controller and can proceed with my work
however, since I currently have E-mu E-DSP device (1212m), I would like to finish true 24-bit support first (for Windows)
after it is ready, I will port the driver to OS X right with 24-bit support for all 10k2 users (audigy, audigy2)

I hope an initial 'alpha' version is released before 15'August, because after that I'll be off for another vacation and will proceed with my work on September.

Eugene

Oxtie
QUOTE(eugene k2 @ Jul 23 2008, 11:13 PM) *
status update:

I fixed the issue with my PCMCIA controller and can proceed with my work
however, since I currently have E-mu E-DSP device (1212m), I would like to finish true 24-bit support first (for Windows)
after it is ready, I will port the driver to OS X right with 24-bit support for all 10k2 users (audigy, audigy2)

I hope an initial 'alpha' version is released before 15'August, because after that I'll be off for another vacation and will proceed with my work on September.

Eugene


Thanks again for an update E smile.gif I guess waiting is worth it tongue.gif hmm... though, vacation looks like a scary word at the moment biggrin.gif
s1mmo
yeeesssssssss biggrin.gif
newbmac
QUOTE(eugene k2 @ Jul 23 2008, 07:13 PM) *
status update:

I fixed the issue with my PCMCIA controller and can proceed with my work
however, since I currently have E-mu E-DSP device (1212m), I would like to finish true 24-bit support first (for Windows)
after it is ready, I will port the driver to OS X right with 24-bit support for all 10k2 users (audigy, audigy2)

I hope an initial 'alpha' version is released before 15'August, because after that I'll be off for another vacation and will proceed with my work on September.

Eugene



Wow, if you release Audigy for OS X support, the world (both OSx86 and OS X users with Mac Pros) will LOVE YOU!!
-=n3rd=-
You could be the legend for all or all poor tiny audiophelic guys who can't efford a real mac with usb sound biggrin.gif

I own a Audigy 4 non Pro. I've heard that its nearly similiar with Audigy 4. Is it true? Would it work with this driver you're working on?

Flo
TKiet
wow this sounds like a very nice experiment. What about Sound Blaster X-Fi series cards, are they supported as well?
newbmac
QUOTE(TKiet @ Jul 24 2008, 04:21 PM) *
wow this sounds like a very nice experiment. What about Sound Blaster X-Fi series cards, are they supported as well?


QUOTE(-=n3rd=- @ Jul 24 2008, 04:12 PM) *
You could be the legend for all or all poor tiny audiophelic guys who can't efford a real mac with usb sound biggrin.gif

I own a Audigy 4 non Pro. I've heard that its nearly similiar with Audigy 4. Is it true? Would it work with this driver you're working on?

Flo



Look up the chips used in them versus the Audigy 2 cards to figure it out...
If they are different chips, guess would require different drivers...
Oxtie
Here comes another quote biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Eugene Gavrilov)
but don't expect too much
initial version will come without kX DSP, so, no custom effects, no soundfonts, no routing, just multichannel playback and, probably, recording

24/48 for 10k2, 16/48 for 10k1

E.


10k1 is mentioned which means Live! series will have some sound smile.gif
newbmac
Who cares about any of that stuff! ? smile.gif

I just want the sound out to work, and if it supports 5.1 that will be icing on the cake!

kiwi89
Well hopfuly this will allow some audigy/x-fi support in mac os. But we wont know what works until we can all go home and try out the new driver lol.
oldmansampson
I'm really looking forward to this!!
wildchild
This is phenomenal news!

I can't wait!!!
newbmac
Oh it's like Christmas! lol

idividebyzero
damn, I sold my audigy 2 a long time ago when I got an X-Fi

I hope eventually there will be an x-fi driver, the audio on my board is garbage with OSX. I only get bad sounding 2.1 with generic drivers with no line-in or anything else, if I use taruga drivers then I get line-in but absolutely no bass at all for output.
Dmitrii
Its very good news!!!!! still waiting and believe
Oxtie
QUOTE(idividebyzero @ Aug 1 2008, 02:04 AM) *
damn, I sold my audigy 2 a long time ago when I got an X-Fi

I hope eventually there will be an x-fi driver, the audio on my board is garbage with OSX. I only get bad sounding 2.1 with generic drivers with no line-in or anything else, if I use taruga drivers then I get line-in but absolutely no bass at all for output.


X-Fi uses different chip then 10kx so, there are 99% chances that it will NOT be supported by kX drivers.
More information on X-fi is available from DJ_Stick and Eugene himself HERE --> http://www.driverheaven.net/general-discus...aster-x-fi.html

hmmm smile.gif they changed the color of forum from black to blue smile.gif
AznCQ
Look like someone deserves a donation =D
Oxtie
QUOTE(AznCQ @ Aug 2 2008, 12:28 AM) *
Look like someone deserves a donation =D


Yup, I was willing to donate earlier, but then "E" mentioned the date, so not willing to get charged by transfer company (WU) twice angel.png It is also good to donate if others want to, besides how many cool coders are out there? specially who can bring almost all main features of original CT drivers to OS-xxx? smile.gif well, regard-less of donations, E would continue the work as usual but with some "Pizzas" it can be fun and fast smile.gif

You know, I once thought to donate 5$ extra so that Russ (over there) becomes mod wink.gif
MAC IN TOSH
Hi,
I have a sound card CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER 5 and MAC OS X 1.5.2 does not recognizes it. How can I get it to work?
Thanks..
Oxtie
QUOTE(MAC IN TOSH @ Aug 2 2008, 12:46 PM) *
Hi,
I have a sound card CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER 5 and MAC OS X 1.5.2 does not recognizes it. How can I get it to work?
Thanks..


Mach In Tosh, please read the first post of this thread (page 1) and check whether your model is listed or not smile.gif If your card is based on Emu10K(1 or 2) then continue to read the first post if not, then it may not be suppored wacko.gif
newbmac
QUOTE(Lama @ Aug 2 2008, 08:54 AM) *
Mach In Tosh, please read the first post of this thread (page 1) and check whether your model is listed or not smile.gif If your card is based on Emu10K(1 or 2) then continue to read the first post if not, then it may not be suppored wacko.gif


Wow, you're nice to reply. Posts like the GP annoy me that they are too lazy to even read the thread. It's why I don't come by here as much as I used to, all the annoying lazy users.
MTZeon
Any confirmation on the release date? smile.gif
catboy
Great news... i have Audigy 2 zs on my hackinstosh... i use in windows for games...

maybe Taruga can help..
Signal64
Well, if these do come out I can dust off my CT4620, CT4670, CT4760, SB0060, SB0090, and a few others I know I have around here somewhere.

Riley Freeman
I'm sure they'll come out. If anyone can get Creative drivers working in OS X it's these guys. They know the hardware inside-out. The only real obstacle would be CoreAudio.

Right now I have a fully-working Leopard install minus sound because I can't be bothered to enable the onboard chip (and switch the speaker cable between XP and Leo sessions) . I'll just sit in silence until these come along wink.gif
newbmac
Ya, well they said August 14. So it is soon. WOW, if this happens this is going to be HUGE. I will switch to OSx86 full time as sound will work!
whoistylerdurden
Only 5 days to go until everything's working on my OSX install. The onboard audio may work, but I didn't feel like moving everything to the onboard audio.
s1mmo
QUOTE(newbmac @ Aug 7 2008, 06:24 PM) *
Ya, well they said August 14. So it is soon. WOW, if this happens this is going to be HUGE. I will switch to OSx86 full time as sound will work!


Same, i'm going to go OSX full time now smile.gif

The sound was the only thing holding me back.
newbmac
QUOTE(whoistylerdurden @ Aug 10 2008, 10:05 AM) *
Only 5 days to go until everything's working on my OSX install. The onboard audio may work, but I didn't feel like moving everything to the onboard audio.



Well, we will see if it really is August 14. Given there isn't much in terms of updates on the date, I would be pleasantly surprised if it was really August 14.
Riley Freeman
It'll be worth the wait anyway. I ended up enabling onboard audio and there's no way I could use this full time. It sounds like crap. Same as it did in XP. How can they call this "High Definition" audio when my 8-year old SBLive Value blows it away.
Oxtie
OK, updated first post for those poor X-Fi dudes smile.gif If any of you X-Fi dudes want drivers, Rant for it here > Creative Developer Open Source Feedback like others.... (some russian dudes even ranted with pron* links... lol)

EDIT:
Just to add a note, you don't need to register to play the rant ball at CTz wink.gif
U2BONO
Waiting for Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Drivers for MacOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! afro.gif weight_lift.gif
eugene k2
OS X driver released - version 1.0b2

get it from here (don't forget to review 'known issues' and 'unimplemented' stuff):

http://www.driverheaven.net/mac-os-x-driver/

post your comments and bug reports to driverheaven forum please, since I cannot read both forums regularly
--

Lama, please update your topic:
* official site is www.kxproject.com
* E-DSP will only work if you boot OS X after Windows (with kX for Windows installed) - because E-DSP FPGA microcode needs to be loaded, and no such option exists for OS X at the moment
* DELL OEM card will never be supported

E.

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