Ok since there is no thread about webcams that are detected but dont work I figured I would share my experience with my cam that is completely detected but does not work in OSX and see if anyone else has the same results.

1st. like many of you with Sonix cams you probably have used the Sonix SN9C201 driver which gives you a webcam monitor app which will show you the picture from the cam but does nothing else. There is also video viewer which does the exact same thing. Google that and try it with your cam.

You can get the sonix webcam monitor from here:
http://agent.liquiddigital.com.au/installation.htm

2nd. During install of 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 but not 10.5.0 I actually can use my cam to take a picture for use as a login pic. Also later under accounts in system preferences. See if your cam works there also.

3rd. If you use adium x you can once again access the same exact app (apple UVC plugin I believe) used above to once again take a picture for use as your aviator in adium x.


ichat, photobooth & other mac apps can not use the cam however they do turn it on and attempt to. All you get though is a green or black screen from them.

So my questions is why do some of these apps work and others dont? Why does OSX system see the cam during account setup and allow you to use it but then refuses to use it with photobooth. The interface of that is exactly the same as photobooth. VERY FRUSTRATING.. I would love to figure this out and get this cam working.


ANYONE else have similar experiences?

NOT A SINGLE PERSON?

NOT A SINGLE COMMENT?

COME ON?

run iChat/skype/whatever through rosetta. it will work
ithink that you must use IUSB Chat or some proggie like that with apple apps (ichat, photobooth)

Isn't rossetta for old mac apps, like pre OSX apps? Am I right there or wrong? How can I use Ichat through rosetta?

I used IUSB chat and got nothing with that. I can get the cam to work in photobooth but only to take a pic for use as a avatar in the accounts screen in preferences. Which is sooo weird.. How can it work there and not work in the full app?

Anyone else have a suggestion to get my sonix cam to work?

THANKS ALL

EDIT: VDCAssistant is what is loaded when user accounts takes a picture of you. Apparently Photobooth uses something else. But why is VDCAssistant able to use my cam and photobooth not.

Finally figured out the rosetta trick. Does not work though. Same results as regular opening of it. There has to be a way to get some of these apple apps to work.

The darn thing works in System preferences/Accounts when you go to change your user login picture under edit you can use the cam to take a picture. Works there looks just like photobooth but open the full photobooth and NOTHING.. The process that loads when using accounts is called VDCAssistant. SO why is VDCAssistant able to do what photobooth can not?

I hope someone can give me some advice or shed some light on this most annoying problem.

hey 00diabolic
i took your suggestion and my cam doesnt work
i have lenovo y300
but here is something wierd
when i open my system profiler
and look under the usb section
it says usb 2.0 cam plugged in
USB2.0 Camera:

Version: 1.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Product ID: 0x5602
Vendor ID: 0x0402

do you have any idea what is happening??
since i dont
but it doesnt work in pip, macam or sonix

Is your camera a sonix camera? What brand do you have? It will only work with sonix monitor if you have a sonix cam.

My cam shows up like this:
USB 2.0 Camera:

Version: 3.21
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Sonix Technology Co., Ltd.
Product ID: 0xb013
Serial Number: SN0001
Vendor ID: 0x04f2

Sonix cams seems to have partial native support in OSX but its not complete. In order to get full support we will have to modify something or one of the hard core Unix/OSX experts would have to take up this cause & help.

If anyone with the caliber of knowledge would like to help 51% of the population of OSX users with built in laptop cams work with all the other OSX apps. Please post a response and we will be glad to aid you and help beta test your ideas.

THANK YOU

i dont think my camera is sonix
its just the integrated camera of my laptop
but the interesting thing is that it shows up in the sys profiler
AS A USB DEVICE
that means leo recognises it as a device but fails to load the driver
so what do you think we should do??
kext editing?

hey 00diabolic
check this out
sonix is supported here
http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/

Wow yeah and Chicony cameras to. Which is made by sonix and redistributed. Sonix has like 51% of the market so that is why there on so many laptops. Damn linux support if that could be ported over to OSX we would be in business. Anyone care to try? I wish I had the skills but I dont know coding so well.

Thanks for finding that though. That is the first time i have seen sonix supported in unix and UVC to boot which I knew it had to be since it partially works in OSX as is.

NO ONE??
HEY C'MON
please help us guys

Look at this: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=82736

That guy is right. The UVC driver in OSX forces the cam into to high a res for mine and others 1.3MP cam to handle. That is why photo booth does not work and same with ichat. With a better UVC cam driver we can get the support without it were stuck with partial support.

Also take a look at this site:

http://ronald.bitfreak.net/isight.php

That guy made a driver for linux for a mac's built in isight because apparently the mac driver (which can be used in linux) does not follow the UVC standard very well.

We need either someone to come along and help here or hope that apple can fix the UVC driver to support lower res cams.

If I knew what the UVC driver was called in OSX id take a look at it and see if it can be manually edited. However I doubt it.

EDIT: Found the UVC driver. See here: http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-376625.html

IOUSBFamily is the kext that needs to be edited. In particular the AppleUSBVideoSupport.kext is the plugin.

Supposedly the version of AppleUSBVideoSupport.kext from 10.4.9 is the best version for working with the most amount of cams out there. I have been unable to find this kext online anywhere but when I find it I plan to try this in leopard.

Now that I know what its call I also think I found the solution to the problem with photo booth & hopefully the problem with ichat but who knows. Gotta test a few things out.

After Extensive research on this problem I have a partial fix. The built in UVC driver is the problem sorta well rather it one of its components that is my problem with photo booth. The driver it self also has issues that need to be addressed.

By deleting /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreMediaIOServicesPrivate.framework/Versions/A/Resources/VDC.plugin

I was able to get photo booth to work with my sonix cam for the first time ever. This is because the shitty as UVC VDC.plugin in OSX forces my cam to work at higher res's then it is capable of doing. By deleting that plugin the cam defaults to a res it can handle and thus works. I still do not have ichat support but that i should be able to figure out soon. Some other edits to the UVC driver should fix that next.

hey thanks for that tip
but do you know what actually makes the cam work??
coz yours is working because of the sonix monitor
mine doesnt
and came to know its a bisonCam which is run by the ali m560x driver
now in macam's source code there is this driver
i asked the macam people
but havent received any reply
do you know how to edit the uvc driver or the macam source code (i'm a noob at this stuff)
can you please help me??

Mine does not work because of the sonix package which is actually a component for quicktime. The package only installs the component if you need it. On my machine because the UVC component driver sees my cam it does not need the extra Sonix SN9C201 component but it only partially works, which is my problem. I dont know exactly how to edit these component drivers yet or if they can simply be edited without a lot of knowledge about coding. macam is also a component for quicktime. I'm not really a coder but I do mod a lot of things and to do that you have to know all of the parts that make up the cam working.

Those parts are the following:

IOUSBFamily.kext which holds AppleUSBVideoSupport.kext which is the main driver for detection of any camera. If you go under about this mac and look under your USB devices and see your camera with details like this:

USB 2.0 Camera:

Version: 3.21
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: bla bla manufacturer
Product ID: 0xb013
Serial Number: SN0001
Vendor ID: 0x04f2

Then your in luck. If you dont see your camera under there then you need to focus on a new AppleUSBVideoSupport.kext which will make your camera show up in there. Without detection of your camera you are SOL.

The next part of the puzzle are the quicktime components. QuickTimeUSBVDCDigitizer.component, & QuickTimeIIDCDigitizer.component are the main two that you need to worry about. Those MUST be installed for any cam to work. Now there are a few other things that like to mess with those working. Those two things are: VDC.plugin & I believe RawCamera.bundle.

VDC is what stops photo booth from working and since I removed it I can use photo booth. Ichat does not ever load VDC.plugin however it loads RawCamera.bundle which I dont know what that does. If its like VDC and forces a higher res picture then that is my problem with ichat. I am still investigating that.

So the whole list that makes up apples webcam support is: AppleUSBVideoSupport.kext, QuickTimeUSBVDCDigitizer.component, QuickTimeIIDCDigitizer.component, VDC.plugin & RawCamera.bundle.

Hope that helps. These drivers have changed a lot since panther so going back and getting different versions of all of them could be the best way to get your camera to show up and work. So far I have only found an older version of QuickTimeUSBVDCDigitizer from 10.4.10.

tryed all this on my hp dv9000 ... the cam only starts showing image in the configuration window of Webcam Monitor (Cam is detected as "Hp webcam"). The webcam Monitor doesnt show image in its normal (monitor) window. Even though the cam light is glowing.

I deleted VDC.plugin but neither photobooth or webcam monitor do work...

any suggestions?

I have a Asus monitor model pw201 with integrated cam. It appears in system profile as a usb cam, but i can not make it work.

USB2.0 Camera:

Versión: 1.00
Potencia del bus (mA): 500
Velocidad: Hasta 480 Mb/s
ID del producto: 0x5602
ID del fabricante: 0x0402

thanks

Check to see if your camera is UVC compliant (google model and UVC). If it meets that standard this trick should work. When you go under system preferences under accounts do you see a picture from the cam when you go to change the icon for your logon picture? If you get a picture theres like a 90% chance your cam is UVC compliant and the problem is the mac driver. Now why deleting VDC did not give you a result I'm not sure. I myself still do not have ichat working with my cam so I am trying to figure that out still.





I can not tell what camera model you have. Try to find out if its a UVC cam. Then go under system preferences under accounts do you see a picture from the cam when you go to change the icon for your logon picture? A mini version of photo booth should load there. If you get the cam to work there then most likely you have a UVC compliant cam and deleting the VDC.plugin might give you access to full photo booth like it did me.

I have a DV 9700 laptop with a 2mp webcam. At first when I opened photoboth it gave me a green screen, but when I deleted VDC.plugin I just got a black screen. Unfortunatly I have no idea how to fix it either

Under USB devices, this is what it says:

Version 1.00
speed up to 12mb/sec
Manufacturer Broadcom Corp
Product ID: 0x121d
Vendor ID 0x02f0

I have a chicony camera and idea for possible fix!!!!

HP Webcam:

Version: 6.06
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.
Product ID: 0xb023
Serial Number: SN0001
Vendor ID: 0x04f2

The computer I have is a hp dv9850

mine only works in aMSN, and not ichat.
it does not work in system preferences, though my hp tx1285 worked there...

the hptx 1285 had a webcam that did not work with forexample freakshow using the tubgirl 10.4.10 installation

tho - I once started freakshow using my hackint0sh jas 10.4.8 installations hard disk as external - in this hard drives application
folder I started a regged version of freakshow - and woopsadaysie.... I got video there.

conclusion: the frameworks of 10.4.8 and certain kexts and bundles from there could help us out. As this hptx1285 also must be chicony / sonix
I am not sure wether or not leo would crash with this framework from 10.4.8 and kexts - but it could be worth a try.






cheers

aRt

Yes Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that the UVC driver and software used for cams in Leopard is the problem with most cams. If we can get the old tiger stuff and use that it should work. Now I have gotten part of the 10.4.10 UVC package and saw no difference. I have not tried 10.4.8 yet though nor can i find it anyway. Yet I have read that a lot more cams have worked in 10.4.8 then in any of the other versions of OSX so far. We need to come up with a list of files to get from 10.4.8. Its not just kext its also the quicktime components that we need to collect and then install in Leopard. I will see what I can dig up as far as all of the needed files.

i think you were asking for this file from 10.4.9 install. hope you find a solution for the webcam riddle.

Here is what I have:



Now, I've installed aGent Webcam G3 but the main WebCam Monitor screen is always blank. BUT, if I select Monitor -> Video Settings I can see my image on the preview box!!!

I've tried to delete VDC.plugin but still no changes either in Skype, iChat, Photo Booth, Quicktime or anything else... all of them showing just a black screen... so, any ideas???

the 10.4.8 and 10.4.9 frameworks do work - and yeah - maybe we only need the quicktime components from one of those two versions
who knows...
im gonna try that kext
thx

I may have found a temporary solution but I have not yet tested it out

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry768311

here is a ton of sonic drivers for os xhttp://www.sonix.com.tw/sonix/family.do?f=3a bunch of em... gonna try some - u guys get started too http://www.sonix.com.tw/sonix/product.do?p=SN9C202this is imo - possibly a good try for us as our dv hp computers do have a mic beside the cam itself - this is probably some sheit that connect to one chip.lets try guys ! :DaRt

I've tried that IOUSBFamily.kext.rar... no results...

Maybe this can give us some help also...

http://techslaves.org/index.php?page=52

i am on acer crystal eye webcam on my aspire 4710 laptop. i could see a part of the frame in login options when i installed 10.4.9 whose kext i have uploaded. not even that lucky in 10.4.8, 10.5.1 or 10.5.2. tried macam, but no go.

let me know if i can be of any help.

THANKS. I still need to try it out. We need are all of the files the cam uses for this to work I think. That means the kext and the quicktime components also.

Here is a list of all of them that we need form 10.4.8/10.4.9 (I think 10.4.8 is the best at cam support):
IOUSBFamily.kext which holds AppleUSBVideoSupport.kext
QuickTimeUSBVDCDigitizer.component,
QuickTimeIIDCDigitizer.component
VDC.plugin
RawCamera.bundle

I am not 100% this is the whole list but it has to be as this is all the stuff that loads when you use the cam. If there is one or two others please let me know. Also 10.4.8 may not have all of these files and that would make sense (especially VDC.plugin).



Once we get all the files from 10.4.8 I think it will solve your problem. The leopard versions just really limit the cams you can use.




What did you come up with? We really need all of the files and from 10.4.8 would be the best to use.



Not bad but its kind of an ugly solution. Having to go through all that to use your cam well I would not want to do that.




I have tried those before. There is no better match for me then what I have now which is SN9C201. However perhaps you guys will see a difference. Also the quicktime component never seems to load from the sonix driver. If we could get it to load it might really help us sonix and chioney users.




I already mentioned looking at that page. That is how I arrived at the VDC.plugin solution and where I found out what the cam uses to load in the first place. Did you not see all my other posts above? We should be able to get closer with files from tiger now.




Its not all that one kext. See the list above we need all of the files to make this work. If we get AppleUSBVideoSupport.kext and all the quicktime stuff from 10.4.8 we should be in business.

This is my webcam .. I get the blue-light on the cam but no image. Is there a known solution for this Cam?

Did you read above? The best solution is the UVC drivers from 10.4.8. If we can get someone to post those thats running that version of tiger we are in business. I do not have full support and its because of leopards UVC driver package. Tigers was better and more cams worked with it. We need all of the files from 10.4.8 to make it work right.

Hmm you mean trying to delete the DVC plugin? No not yet tried it, but I was looking for a more universal solution, The UVC drivers you mention seems to be the one...

Requestion: Can someone post UVC drivers from Tiger 10.4.8 ???

I've got the 10.4.8 installation DVD... is there any way to extract those files from it? If so, how can I do that?

I have HP 6700 and using 10.5.3

I have iChat, Yahoo messenger working with camera but Skype, photo booth not working. photo application from my login account is not working either. photo booth seem to start my camera but image is total white.

This is how it shows in my system profile.
HP Webcam:
Manufacturer: Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.
Product ID: 0xb015
Vendor ID: 0x04f2

This behavior is opposite to some other posts where photo booth is working but iChat is not. I also tried to remove VDC.plugin but it did not help.

Any help guys???

-Sam

Rosetta is not for pre OS X apps, is for OS X apps compiled for PPC Macs.

Pre OS X apps can run on some PPC Macs with System 9 natively and on some only with System 9 within OS X, but Leopard hasn't support now.

Even that Rosetta can emulate the instrucctions from PPC to X86 you cant use it with drivers.

ok, I managed to pull
AppleUSBVideoSupport.kext
QuickTimeUSBVDCDigitizer.component,
QuickTimeIIDCDigitizer.component

from a 10.4.8 Jas DVD with pacifist. these came from the essentials install package on the DVD so I don't think they've been tampered with or come from another OS version. it would be nice to have a genuine 10.4.8 DVD on hand to be sure but you can test these out.

it looks like VDC.plugin and RawCamera.bundle were added at a later date since neither of them were on the DVD in fact "/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreMediaIOServicesPrivate.framework/" is missing completely on 10.4.8.

I've tried everything I can think of to get my webcam working and still no luck.

could someone with a working camera post the IORegistry information. The easiest way to do this if you have xcode installed is to run the "USB Prober" that comes with and copy the information from there.

Click to view attachment

i have an acer laptop and the webcam comes up as a USB camera. it works flawlessly with ichat and also in online flash. i haven't tried with maccam because, well, {censored} maccam. all i want to do is get my camera working in photobooth. im not going to buy a new webcam because 1. i dont want to 2. i shouldnt have to and 3. the reason im posting is to solve the problem without doing so. when i start photobooth it loads up fine but i get a black screen, oh well... any suggestions??

Acer CrystalEye webcam:

Version: 1.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: SuYin
Product ID: 0xa101
Serial Number: CN0314-OV03-VA-R02.00.00
Vendor ID: 0x064e

No Success here:

HP Webcam:

Version: 6.06
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.
Product ID: 0xb023
Serial Number: SN0001
Vendor ID: 0x04f2

But, I have made a shocking discovery



I got this error in terminal while running:

/Applications/Photo Booth.app/Contents/MacOS/Photo Booth

So, this may be a hint.

I wonder what "but wrong architecture" is supposed to mean. Is it our processors?

Haha, very interesting discovery. I am one of the ones waiting on this as well.

My Acer Suyin Webcam works fine with EvoCam. Record Video & Audio.

Hi I just had my Sonix SN9C201 web cam running on photobooth and skype not on ichat.

Check link below for driver:
http://www.sonix.com.tw/sonix/product.do?p=sn9c201

i have a ricoh 1.3 mp webcam on my hp dv9335nr notebook, and nothing works with it

Hi, Buddy,

I am using a HP DV9500t, which equiped with a Webcam from Suyin: VendorID 0x064e, Product ID 0xa110. It show as HP Webcam version 1.0 in system profile. But only display blackscreen in Photo Booth, iChat, Skype, etc...
I donwload EvoCam 3.6.2, and it show me the video correct. So I believe my webcam do work in Leopard 10.5.2. The problem is whether there's any way we can make the webcam work with Photo Booth...

I have a 1.3MP web cam from MSI Starclip and I can get it to work with macam but nothing else. I would really love it if someone can help resolve this as the wife is busting my balls over Skype not having video

I have this on my Acer 7720 (Kalyway 10.5.2)
Acer CrystalEye webcam:

Version: 1.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: SuYin
Product ID: 0xa101
Serial Number: CN0314-OV03-VA-R02.00.00
Vendor ID: 0x064e

Works in EvoCam, but not in any Apple apps

Also just found an interesting fact - my install, Kalyway 10.5.1 + Kalyway 10.5.2 updates, leads to iChat not working, whereas another member with identical laptop installed from Kalyway 10.5.2 DVD and his iChat worked - could this difference shed any light on things?

I tried this driver and it wasn't successful :-(

If programmers our there are interested in grabbing some work in developing a mac webcam driver for my company please contact me. We are based in Australia but can work with developers anywhere in the world. Driver development experience with Macs is essential ofcourse.
jcross@pacific.net.au

I've been a away a while and still need to test this out. Great to finally have these files. TAHNKS! I figures that VDC was not part of tiger makes a lot of sense actually. Since that was all that made my cam not work in photo booth. As for the rest I'm not quite sure why I dont get support in ichat. There must be something we can edit to get there.




Very interesting. I would say this has to do with something with the cam but it could be the processor. Like if we alter one of the drivers we might get it to better work with the cam.

I've been pretty busy lately not sure how much time I'll be on this forum. I'll keep checking back her and offering ideas if I get any further with this.

Thanks everyone for continuing to work on getting full support for all cams in OSX.

dell xps m1330
Laptop Integrated Webcam:

Version: 1.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: OmniVision Technologies, Inc. -2640-07.07.20.3
Product ID: 0x2640
Vendor ID: 0x05a9

photobooth works only on the 1st try, when i close it and try to use it again, it just crashes, i have to reboot in order to use it again

edit: I deleted the VDC plugin and it finally worked without having to reboot!

That´s my bad cam
Version: 4.11
Bus-Strom (mA): 500
Geschwindigkeit: Bis zu 480 MBit/s
Hersteller: Sonix Technology Co., Ltd.
Produkt-ID: 0x5a35
Seriennummer: SN0001
Hersteller-ID: 0x174f

No Sonixdriver work , but it´s crazy. On Webcam Monitor-----Video Settings, i see me in preview. But my head is inverted .

In Skype and Photobooth i see a black screen.

i give up now