JonTheSavage Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 http://www.rense.com/general81/ligun.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Scissors Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 You can find statistics to back up any argument. Guns are designed to do one thing and one thing only KILL people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numberzz Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 /Dumbest argument anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(MoC) Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I don't get it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numberzz Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Man, it looks like not even my iPhone likes guns: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_cute Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 /Dumbest argument anywhere. I agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 No one should have guns, not even the military, but not as if that is a realistic idea in a million years. But that's no excuse for the general public to be allowed to carry fire arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 No one should have guns, not even the military, but not as if that is a realistic idea in a million years.But that's no excuse for the general public to be allowed to carry fire arms. So you believe the government should come in and murder people like they do in China? You basicly stated that you believe that governments should have the right to murder people like Hitler did. The first thing he did was disarm Germany. You believe in Socialism? Hitler was a Socialist. Are you a Nazi? It sounds like you are a coward, and scared of guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Scissors Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 So you believe the government should come in and murder people like they do in China? You basicly stated that you believe that governments should have the right to murder people like Hitler did. The first thing he did was disarm Germany. You believe in Socialism? Hitler was a Socialist. Are you a Nazi? It sounds like you are a coward, and scared of guns. What are you on about all he said is he does not believe in guns. We do not have guns in the UK and the government doesn't go around killing people, most of the Police here do not even carry guns. We also do not have kids taking guns into school slaughtering all their school mates and teachers either. If you live in a country where you think you need a gun then you need to emigrate my friend. Oh by the way your more of a pussy if you carry a gun. Whats harder pulling a trigger or fighting someone. The biggest {censored} idiot in the world can pull a trigger but it takes someone a lot braver to go up and fight somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 What are you on about all he said is he does not believe in guns. We do not have guns in the UK and the government doesn't go around killing people, most of the Police here do not even carry guns. We also do not have kids taking guns into school slaughtering all their school mates and teachers either. If you live in a country where you think you need a gun then you need to emigrate my friend. Oh by the way your more of a pussy if you carry a gun. Whats harder pulling a trigger or fighting someone. The biggest {censored} idiot in the world can pull a trigger but it takes someone a lot braver to go up and fight somebody. Oh yeah, Your government is perfect. Tony Blair is God. The UK government is the most GLORIOUS government in the world. Those cameras on the streets are there to protect their slaves... err, I mean you. Murder doesn't exist in the UK because the TV says it doesn't. Every country since the beginning of man has has a sword or gun. You are a complete idiot if you believe people should not defend themselves against crooks, and tyranny. And you NEVER touched on China. Please lets talk about China, don't avoid the question by telling us how good you believe your crooked government is. The UK is more crooked than the US, and China. You are telling me, that if someone breaks into your house, and tries to kill you, that you don't have the right to protect yourself? I like Guns. I don't like crooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Scissors Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Tony Blair is not the Prime Minister any more. Yes the cameras are here to protect us. I dont need the Tele to tell me stuff. But the British news channels are regarded as some the most respected and impartial in the world, in fact its against the law for them to be biased and politically or commercially influenced. The government hates the BBC but the is nothing they can do about it. Dont rate other news channels on FOX News Yes murder happens here but not on the scale of Murder in the US. The hasn't been a Massacre for years. The UK certainly is not the safest place to live but its a lot safer than the US. Its disgusting that children in your country risk being murdered when learning or should they take guns in to school to protect them selves. This is the 21st century we do not need guns in todays society. If a crook breaks in my house does he deserve shooting? No. Jail? Yes. The more guns in circulation the more people you need protecting from. As for China yes its a disgrace but it shouldn't be solved with their citizens using guns. Because them same gun holders then become the government and then oppressors. It needs the international community to get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Tony Blair is not the Prime Minister any more. Yes the cameras are here to protect us. I dont need the Tele to tell me stuff. But the British news channels are regarded as some the most respected and impartial in the world, in fact its against the law for them to be biased and politically or commercially influenced. The government hates the BBC but the is nothing they can do about it. Dont rate other news channels on FOX News Yes murder happens here but not on the scale of Murder in the US. The hasn't been a Massacre for years. The UK certainly is not the safest place to live but its a lot safer than the US. Its disgusting that children in your country risk being murdered when learning or should they take guns in to school to protect them selves. This is the 21st century we do not need guns in todays society. If a crook breaks in my house does he deserve shooting? No. Jail? Yes. The more guns in circulation the more people you need protecting from. As for China yes its a disgrace but it shouldn't be solved with their citizens using guns. Because them same gun holders then become the government and then oppressors. It needs the international community to get involved. Protect you? How? Your dead. Done deed. Someone with a mask shot you, you disarmed peasant. Now wait 10 minutes while you are dying from blood loss while the cops get shot up because they don't have guns. Fox news is operated by Rupert Murdock. He has stock in BBC as well. You forgot the 7/7 bombings. How did your cameras protect you then? Its funny how all the cameras failed that day. http://www.rinf.com/news/aug-05/34.html Yeah, they get nothing while you are laying there dead in a pool of blood while they are 1/2 way to Africa by the time the unarmed cops get there. Get real. Then someone will pop up and start manufacturing guns somewhere else, and import them. There will ALWAYS be guns. And you will never stop evil men from doing evil things. To think you can is a sign of insanity. You don't live in the real world. Don't forget, Big Brother loves you! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I've never owned a gun and rather dislike them. I've never been robbed, raped, beaten, or killed. In accordance with the events theory in this thread, hating guns must mean a 100% chance of not getting anything bad done to you, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 I've never owned a gun and rather dislike them. I've never been robbed, raped, beaten, or killed. In accordance with the events theory in this thread, hating guns must mean a 100% chance of not getting anything bad done to you, right? No, nothing WRONG with hating evil. But hating the right to defend yourself is a sign of delusion. Banning guns will just compel more evil people into power. Even if it is a robber or theif. 5 unarmed men cannot defeat one armed man. Thats how China got as bad as it is. Thats how Hitler climbed into power. A man robs a bank, and kills 20 people. Do you really think he would even consider it if he knew everyone in there was armed? Try to live in South America without a gun. You wouldn't last a week. EDIT: No. I take that back. Walk into Harlom without a gun and a cop uniform on. Count how many holes you get in you before you get to the end of the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Scissors Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Protect you? How? Your dead. Done deed. Someone with a mask shot you, you disarmed peasant. Now wait 10 minutes while you are dying from blood loss while the cops get shot up because they don't have guns. Fox news is operated by Rupert Murdock. He has stock in BBC as well. You forgot the 7/7 bombings. How did your cameras protect you then? Its funny how all the cameras failed that day. http://www.rinf.com/news/aug-05/34.html Yeah, they get nothing while you are laying there dead in a pool of blood while they are 1/2 way to Africa by the time the unarmed cops get there. Get real. Then someone will pop up and start manufacturing guns somewhere else, and import them. There will ALWAYS be guns. And you will never stop evil men from doing evil things. To think you can is a sign of insanity. You don't live in the real world. Don't forget, Big Brother loves you! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four You mean like your guns protected you in the Sep 11 attacks. Things are a lot harder to get hold of when it is illegal not to mention how much more expensive. Bullets cost £25-£30 in the UK. 50-60 USD. Your hardly going to get shot by a crackheads when the bullets are that price. Its better Guns are out the price bracket of most people than to be so common place desperate drug addicts carry them. Rupert Murdoch does not have stocks in the BBC it is publicly owned and funded. Run by the BBC Trust on behalf of the UK License payers. Murdoch does however have stock in Sky which owns another good News channel. Sky News which also runs under the same laws that state they cannot be biased and politically or commercially influenced. If someone was shooting people in the UK then the Armed Police will be sent. Not a bobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 You mean like your guns protected you in the Sep 11 attacks. Things are a lot harder to get hold of when it is illegal not to mention how much more expensive. Bullets cost £25-£30 in the UK. 50-60 USD. Your hardly going to get shot by a crackheads when the bullets are that price. Its better Guns are out the price bracket of most people than to be so common place desperate drug addicts carry them. Rupert Murdoch does not have stocks in the BBC it is publicly owned and funded. Run by the BBC Trust on behalf of the UK License payers. Murdoch does however have stock in Sky which is another good News channel which also runs under the same laws that state they cannot be biased and politically or commercially influenced. If someone was shooting people in the UK then the Armed Police will be sent. Not a bobby. Guns were not allowed on the plane, and the pilots were not allowed to carry. Again, a boxcutter can hold up an entire cabin of unarmed peasants. Thats why they smuggle them over the border moron. Then that person dies because he failed to defend himself. Therefore you have advocated that person's death. The crook is 10 minutes ahead of the cops. Do you really think he is going to stay there and wait for the cops to come get him? You advocated guns for the cops to kill, but you didn't advocate the other guy with the gun. Why? So the cops are criminals too because they have guns? Why don't you advocate the victim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Scissors Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 You remind me of a Jeremy Clarkson quote "I do believe people in certain parts of America have started mating with vegetables" I dont think this but for some reason JonTheSavage reminded me of it. Weird Yeah you can get guns over here but their that bloody expensive hardly anyone has got them. Certainly not the crackheads, mentally disabled or red neck idiots that do the most massacring like in the US. Oh yeah i nearly forgot Moron Guns saved you from the Centennial Olympic Park bombing and Oklahoma Bombing exactly the same as not having guns saved us from the 7/7 bombings. Yes i advocate police having guns because they are trained in using them and the police guns are hardly to fall into criminal hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 You remind me of a Jeremy Clarkson quote "I do believe people in certain parts of America have started mating with vegetables" I dont think this but for some reason JonTheSavage reminded me of it. Weird Yeah you can get guns over here but their that bloody expensive hardly anyone has got them. Certainly not the crackheads, mentally disabled or red neck idiots that do the most massacring like in the US. Oh yeah i nearly forgot Moron Guns saved you from the Centennial Olympic Park bombing and Oklahoma Bombing exactly the same as not having guns saved us from the 7/7 bombings. Yes i advocate police having guns because they are trained in using them and the police guns are hardly to fall into criminal hands. Most cops are criminals in case you haven't noticed. The OK bombing was pulled off by project MK ULTRA, since you don't live in the US, I don't expect you to know what that is. They made a game named after it some years ago. Your cameras didn't save you from 7/7. They all for some mysterious reason FAILED that day. Maybe you could tell me who pulled off the 7/7 bombings, and what happened? I know you can't, don't worry about it, I don't fell bad for you. Your population was unarmed. The idiot fat cops couldn't stop some guy with 2 legs. Thats both sad, and funny at the same time. You lost this arguement before it started. In the land of the unarmed, the guy with one gun is king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Scissors Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 You think the OK bombings had something to do with CIA Mind Control. Your still not answering my questions though where were your guns to save you from the Centennial Olympic Park bombing and Oklahoma Bombings? Should children take guns to school? After all if another child could have a gun surely they need one to protect themselves right? The US have massacres every year, the UK doesn't. Whose better off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 You think the OK bombings had something to do with CIA Mind Control. Your still not answering my questions though where were your guns to save you from the Centennial Olympic Park bombing and Oklahoma Bombings? Should children take guns to school? After all if another child could have a gun surely they need one to protect themselves right? The US have massacres every year, the UK doesn't. Whose better off? Yes, the documents for it were released under the FIA 3 years ago. I have no knowledge of the Centennial Olympic Park bombing. Never read up on that, or what went on. But the 7/7 bombings happened because the cops couldn't stop a guy they were chasing. They were unarmed. The man could run faster. School shootings happen because they ban guns. Some druggy sneaks a gun in and shoots unarmed people, then points the gun on himself. So you look to your government to do something instead of looking to yourself. You just want someone to do something for you because you are too scared to do it yourself. And THAT is the truth of the matter. You are scared, and you want your government to protect you from the big bad drug addict with a gun. Look into the matter, and you will find that every one of them were on some kind of mind altering drug. Should we ban drugs? no. Thats up to them if they want to do that stupid {censored}. But its not up to you to tell them that. Do you think you can stop death? Thousands die in car wrecks every day. Should we ban cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Scissors Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 The 7/7 bombings would have happened either way. The first anyone new about that was when the tubes and bus were being blown up. All bombers were killed by the blast. In this situation like most a gun is as much use as {censored} flavored lollipop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 The 7/7 bombings would have happened either way. The first anyone new about that was when the tubes and bus were being blown up. All bombers were killed by the blast. In this situation like most a gun is as much use as {censored} flavored lollipop. Which comes back to the basic problem. Disarmed peasants couldn't stop a man from killing hundreds of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Scissors Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Neither could armed people as ive just said. The only way of stopping people is intelligence, stopping these things before they start and yes cameras do help in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Neither could armed people as ive just said.The only way of stopping people is intelligence, stopping these things before they start and yes cameras do help in this. If a man has a bomb in his jacket, and is going to kill 100 people. Do you shoot him, or let 100 people die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Scissors Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If a man has a bomb in his jacket you wont know about it until it went off. If the police/mi5/sis gathered intelligence they could stop the man before he made the bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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