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Hi,

I'm wondering if there are any fully compatible motherboards that would handle two of the new quad-core xeon CPU's. I've searched around in the forums/google for awhile, but haven't found anything.

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buy to cores of them ( 1000 euro each) and you realize you come cheaper buying an apple

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Nah, I can get a 2.3ghz quad-core Xeon for around $300. The motherboard is what's giving me trouble. Has anyone had experience with this?

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Nah, I can get a 2.3ghz quad-core Xeon for around $300. The motherboard is what's giving me trouble. Has anyone had experience with this?


Look for server boards (intel have some good models). But they are very expensive. I think buying a MacPro is more cheaper too...

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buy to cores of them ( 1000 euro each) and you realize you come cheaper buying an apple



Look for server boards (intel have some good models). But they are very expensive. I think buying a MacPro is more cheaper too...


I'm starting to realize what I've spent could have been towards building the perfect Mac Pro hack would cost just as much or even more than a legitimate Mac Pro, especially what they have now, it's hard to beat...8-Cores is what I'm looking for. If anyone has any motherboards that can benchmark and match a Mac Pro, that'd be nice....but I'm slowly raising my flag up.

The best video editing machine would be the Mac Pro...find benchmarks that convince me to turn back... :,( (I'm hoping i'm not regretting this route quite frankly)

ON the contrary, I already own a MacBook Pro an, iMac and a Mac mini...so yeah.


Closest thing right now? (not too sure):
Intel 5000X Chipset
http://www.intel.com...5000x/index.htm
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813121044

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Hi, I've got an Asus motherboard that supports up to 2 quad core.
The model is DSBV-DX (server motherboard), it costed me around 250.
The things I don't like about this motherboard, it has no sound, and no PCIe x16. I've got to by an adaptor (PCIe x8 to PCIe x16).


These are the specs for my hacintosh:
CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Xeon 5300
MOTHERBOARD
Asus DSBV-DX
MEMORY
4 x 2gb Kingston FB-DIMM
GRAPHICS
XFX nVIDIA 5200
AUDIO
Creative 5.1 usb
DRIVES
500gb seagate sata, HP 212 DVD-R
OS Mac OS X 10.5.1 Leopard // Windows XP x64-Edition

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I'd like to get more info on motherboards for 8-core hackintoshes.

I am getting 2 8-core mac pros, but I am also building a NAS raid box and I have to get a server motherboard for the PCI-X slot needed for the raid card. It would be nice if I could get it to run OSx86, but if it won't I have an unused copy of Windows Server 2008 laying around.

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Hi, I've got an Asus motherboard that supports up to 2 quad core.
The model is DSBV-DX (server motherboard), it costed me around 250.
The things I don't like about this motherboard, it has no sound, and no PCIe x16. I've got to by an adaptor (PCIe x8 to PCIe x16).


These are the specs for my hacintosh:
CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Xeon 5300
MOTHERBOARD
Asus DSBV-DX
MEMORY
4 x 2gb Kingston FB-DIMM
GRAPHICS
XFX nVIDIA 5200
AUDIO
Creative 5.1 usb
DRIVES
500gb seagate sata, HP 212 DVD-R
OS Mac OS X 10.5.1 Leopard // Windows XP x64-Edition


what kind of x8 to x16 pci-express adapter are you talking about? I've never heard of one before, please share. Also, i was eying this motherboard for awhile, do you know if the Mac Pro still uses that intel chipset (5000v)? I'd love to get my hands ona Mac Pro Logic motherboard :D

nice sig :D


I'd like to get more info on motherboards for 8-core hackintoshes.

I am getting 2 8-core mac pros, but I am also building a NAS raid box and I have to get a server motherboard for the PCI-X slot needed for the raid card. It would be nice if I could get it to run OSx86, but if it won't I have an unused copy of Windows Server 2008 laying around.



Yes, i hope this thread opens up more 8-core possibilities. For a NAS Raid box, how many hard drives are you using? Why don't you just buy a NAS Raid box external unit, and sell that PCI-X RAID card, in that way, it can run externally, or backed up however, and be compatible in both Mac Pros you'll have as well as compatible with PCs depending on what kind of hard drive format you choose, but since it's a NAS Raid, shouldn't the drives be available via network? I'm in the process of building a server RAID box myself, and realized it might be cheaper to buy an external solution...let's keep this thread going! :)

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I think with the newest macpros, theres no real way to beat apple with 8 cores.
Asus Board about 350.- Euros here
2 x Intel Xeon 5440 CPU Quad 2.83 GHz about 1200.- Euros
8 GB RAM about 280.- Euros
Videocard (possible with 8x PCIe? Adapter?) about 100.-
Harddrive (if only one) about 100.-
DVD Drive about 40.-
External USB Sound, FireWire Card and so about 50.-
And, not to forget, a good, silent Case with a good PSU, about 250 Euros.
Add a Copy of Leo for 130 Euros and you have 2510.- Euros.


Get a Mac Pro with 8 GB RAM and you have about 2640.-.
Thats only 130.- Euros more than the Self-Built Machine. And you have to built it, fiddle around with the install and have a LOT of woprk to have it work well.
No go, i think. No sense.

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Here's the spec's on the latest build I've come up with:
-2x e5405 ($500)
-MBD-X7DAL-E-O ($360)
-PC-V2100BPlus II ($350)
-RocketRAID2240 ($335)
-PC P&C 750w ($170)
-6x 2GB DDR2-667 ($445)
-2600XT ($100)
-16x Seagate 1TB ($4400)

Total = $2260 + $4400 (HDDs)

I suppose I could use a PCI-E raid card and a standard LGA775 mobo, except the PCI-E cards that support this many HDDs are 2x as expensive and don't work with OSx86.
Either way I end up going, it'll still be much cheaper than an xServe RAID + server.

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Hi, I've got an Asus motherboard that supports up to 2 quad core.
The model is DSBV-DX (server motherboard), it costed me around 250.
The things I don't like about this motherboard, it has no sound, and no PCIe x16. I've got to by an adaptor (PCIe x8 to PCIe x16).
These are the specs for my hacintosh:
CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Xeon 5300
MOTHERBOARD
Asus DSBV-DX
MEMORY
4 x 2gb Kingston FB-DIMM
GRAPHICS
XFX nVIDIA 5200
AUDIO
Creative 5.1 usb
DRIVES
500gb seagate sata, HP 212 DVD-R
OS Mac OS X 10.5.1 Leopard // Windows XP x64-Edition


Do 8 cores work just fine it it though? What is not working on board?

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I have an 8 core Xeon workstation I just built a couple of months ago, I would be willing to try and get hackintosh to work on it if I thought it were doable.

Here is the mobo I used: Tyan S-2696 (i5000XT)
I have 2 Xeon X-5365 (Clovertown) processors which came directly from Intel (yes these are the ones they put in the Mac Pros)
I also have 8 gigs of fully buffered Crucial Ram
and a nice RAID-0 array consisting of 4 WD RE2 500GB drives for a total of 2 TB (roughly).
Topped off with a BFG 8800 Ultra.

All of this is in an Antec P-190/1200 Chassis which is easily the nicest eatx case I have ever used, it includes 2 seperate power supplies linked together for a total of 1200 watts, very nice setup and insanely good cable management.
See the Case Here

The boot drive is a Raptor-X 150 and I have a nice DVD-r/rw drive installed as well.

I would seriously consider doing a hackintosh with this machine just for benchies if nothing else.
But I would also love to have it as an FCP workstation if it could be made stable enough.

Where does one begin? and how do we know the chipset can be made to work?

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Someone was running an 8-core Supermicro motherboard here, you may want to check those out. Boards are around $500 iirc.

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I have an 8 core Xeon workstation I just built a couple of months ago, I would be willing to try and get hackintosh to work on it if I thought it were doable.

Here is the mobo I used: Tyan S-2696 (i5000XT)
I have 2 Xeon X-5365 (Clovertown) processors which came directly from Intel (yes these are the ones they put in the Mac Pros)
I also have 8 gigs of fully buffered Crucial Ram
and a nice RAID-0 array consisting of 4 WD RE2 500GB drives for a total of 2 TB (roughly).
Topped off with a BFG 8800 Ultra.

All of this is in an Antec P-190/1200 Chassis which is easily the nicest eatx case I have ever used, it includes 2 seperate power supplies linked together for a total of 1200 watts, very nice setup and insanely good cable management.
See the Case Here

The boot drive is a Raptor-X 150 and I have a nice DVD-r/rw drive installed as well.

I would seriously consider doing a hackintosh with this machine just for benchies if nothing else.
But I would also love to have it as an FCP workstation if it could be made stable enough.

Where does one begin? and how do we know the chipset can be made to work?


/drool...

It'd be great if you could try your hackintosh with that rig and report back to us :P I'm in the middle of building mine...I want to finish soon, just need to top it off with a motherboard.

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Someone was running an 8-core Supermicro motherboard here, you may want to check those out. Boards are around $500 iirc.



So I found this Supermicro server motherboard that is quite convincing, it fits ATX as well:

SUPERMICRO MBD-X7DAL-E-O Dual 771 Intel 5000X ATX Server Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813182101
Manufacture info: http://www.supermicr...0X/X7DAL-E .cfm


^ Could it be that one?


*Also, I stumbled upon your thread regarding the Bad Axe 2, that too, seems quite convincing for me as well, have you read or thought about the Intel BOXDX38BT motherboard? Aren't the hardware pretty close to BX2?


EDIT: A more recent Intel Chipset: 5400


SUPERMICRO MBD-X7DWA-N Dual 771 Intel 5400 Extended ATX Server Motherboard
http://www.supermicr...400/X7DWA-N.cfm
http://www.newegg.co...icro-_-13182130

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So I found this Supermicro server motherboard that is quite convincing, it fits ATX as well:

SUPERMICRO MBD-X7DAL-E-O Dual 771 Intel 5000X ATX Server Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813182101

^ Could it be that one?
*Also, I stumbled upon your thread regarding the Bad Axe 2, that too, seems quite convincing for me as well, have you read or thought about the Intel BOXDX38BT motherboard? Aren't the hardware pretty close to BX2?


Well, I've given quite a bit of thought to dual-processor and quad-processor motherboards. The main reason for going multi-processor is to improve render and compile times of audio, video, cg, and code. However, it's not a very cost-effective approach. You can build a quad-core single-processor Hackintosh starting at $800, while a dual-processor motherboard starts at $500 alone and requires the more expensive Xeon processors ($1200 for the 3ghz quads, and you need two!). Apple has a great program called Qmaster that allows you to pipe material to be rendered via Terminal, Maya, Compressor, etc. to a network "render farm"...you can build a complete 2.4ghz Quad + 8 gigs of ram render node for about $1,000 in a rackmount case (just use my guide, then get a cheap video card, small hard drive, and rackmount case). Compare that to $3,000 minimum for the dual-processor model and you'll quickly realize that it's just not very cost-effective - you can do $1,000 for a single-processor quad-core workstation plus two render nodes with the remaining $2,000!

It is, however, a very neat concept and if you have the cash and don't want to mess with network rendering then it's definitely a good way to go. If I had oodles of money I would get the quad-processor machine and build myself a monster 16-core workstation and simply not deal with any network render farm setup. The dual-processor model is, of course, a lot cheaper than the quad-processor model and you could save at least a little bit of money over Apple while retaining customization. But then you run into the problems that Hackintoshes have, such as lack of support for dual video cards. You can blow $3,000+ on a nice dual-processor 8-core machine but you can't run 8 monitors like the Mac Pro can, you can only run two. There are a lot of things to think about when spending that kind of money!

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Get a Mac Pro with 8 GB RAM and you have about 2640.-.
Thats only 130.- Euros more than the Self-Built Machine. And you have to built it, fiddle around with the install and have a LOT of woprk to have it work well.
No go, i think. No sense.


Where did you get that price from? With 8 gigs RAM I'm seeing more like Eur 3200.- without taxes. I'd get the standard 2gb RAM and then buy some compatible sticks for more reasonable prices though. For example here: http://www.transintl.com

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Well, I've given quite a bit of thought to dual-processor and quad-processor motherboards. The main reason for going multi-processor is to improve render and compile times of audio, video, cg, and code. However, it's not a very cost-effective approach. You can build a quad-core single-processor Hackintosh starting at $800, while a dual-processor motherboard starts at $500 alone and requires the more expensive Xeon processors ($1200 for the 3ghz quads, and you need two!). Apple has a great program called Qmaster that allows you to pipe material to be rendered via Terminal, Maya, Compressor, etc. to a network "render farm"...you can build a complete 2.4ghz Quad + 8 gigs of ram render node for about $1,000 in a rackmount case (just use my guide, then get a cheap video card, small hard drive, and rackmount case). Compare that to $3,000 minimum for the dual-processor model and you'll quickly realize that it's just not very cost-effective - you can do $1,000 for a single-processor quad-core workstation plus two render nodes with the remaining $2,000!

It is, however, a very neat concept and if you have the cash and don't want to mess with network rendering then it's definitely a good way to go. If I had oodles of money I would get the quad-processor machine and build myself a monster 16-core workstation and simply not deal with any network render farm setup. The dual-processor model is, of course, a lot cheaper than the quad-processor model and you could save at least a little bit of money over Apple while retaining customization. But then you run into the problems that Hackintoshes have, such as lack of support for dual video cards. You can blow $3,000+ on a nice dual-processor 8-core machine but you can't run 8 monitors like the Mac Pro can, you can only run two. There are a lot of things to think about when spending that kind of money!


Hmm...video rendering seems to be one of my priorities in considering a dual-socket processor workstation, how can I go about setting a 'network render farm'? Simply through Qmaster and set it to utilize the per say 8gb ram? I'dl ike to know more info, and am interested (i hope others are as well), I look forward to hearing more about this. And yes, you are definitely right about many points. It's definitely a whole new budget if I were to turn dual-processor and whatnot, though, they've become more affordable...

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OK Guys, I am ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY.
News FLASH.
This may not be a big deal to you but it is HUGE to me so here goes:

As I mentioned in my post above I have a working 8 core monster which I dual boot to XP32 and XP64, the system is ROCK SOLID STABLE with Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 which is what I use it for.

I also have a perfectly stable Hackintosh which has been up for 2 days straight since I installed Kalyway 10.5.1 on Saturday.

Just on a whim I decided to try something tonight.
I had a brand new 250GB external USB drive so I installed Kalyway on that drive after booting the Kalyway DVD.
I selected a couple of extra things that were different from my working hackintosh, mainly the nvInject driver since the octa has the 8800 Ultra.
After the installation I plugged the USB drive inot my octa and booted from that USB drive AND IT WORKED!
I got a working Leopard desktop running!
Now, the sound does not work, nor does it see my big RAID-0 but it sees all the other drives, it sees the 8800 even though it only reports as 256MB ram for the video card and it sees all 8 cores.

Now this system currently has a very important project on the RAID-0 so I was really apprehensive about going any further and testing anything out so I played around for a bit and got the hell outta there but it worked, it booted and it seemed stable.

WTF am I going to do?
I really want to try and get this beast up on Final Cut as an 8 core power house but I need help here, I am lost, I would not even know where to begin with trying to figure out onboard sound or anything else.

One other thing that was weird I will mention, is that when I went to shut down I got a panic with the big square screen taking over my display which said I needed to power down my computer by pressing the power button which I did and my system started back up into XP no problem so all is well there.

Start shelling out the ideas brothers, I will risk it and try to make it work, but I should say that this is a very good start that it even booted into Leopard wouldnt you say?

Graymarye

have owned this mobo: Intel S5000 XVN
And I did not like it as a workstation mobo, it was limited for my needs, I found it to be finicky at best, it was the first board I used to build my octa as an XP workstation. I ended up trashing a few of the pins on one of the sockets and I actually threw the board in the trash believe it or not, $500.00 in the freaking trash.

I also have an AMD dual Opteron 285 workstation that sits gathering dust right now believe it or not.
My point to all of this is that I also have at least 2 and perhaps 3 eATX server chassis that are like brand new which I would be willing to sell cheap just to get them out of my attic.

Here is what I have:
(1) Antec Titan 650
(1) SuperMicro 745
(1) Intel 5299E

The Intel Chassis is absolutely brand new, both it and the SuperMicro chassis come with built in power supplies, I modded the Intel chassis PSU cable to accomodate the Tyan S-2696 because of the placement of the 8 pin power connector (I made it longer) and it worked perfectly.
The Antec will take whatever PSU you want to use.
The SuperMicro chassis has an 8 bay hot swappable SATA unit which is pretty cool.
All of the chassis are black and still in the boxes the came shipped in.

As an added note I also have a $500.00 PC Power & Cooling 1KW PSU which is arguably the baddest ass PSU on the planet, it is just a little loud for my liking, it is also damn near brand new and for sale.

Let me know where you are and I will gladly make this worthwhile for you if you want any of these items, I am done with them and any one of them would make a nice chassis for your project.
The PSU is second to none and comes with certification papers which boast of it's accuracy and stability.
PC P&C TurboCool 1KW-SR

Check it out, let me know and let me know where to beging with my octa....I wanna roll.

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I have an 8 core Xeon workstation I just built a couple of months ago, I would be willing to try and get hackintosh to work on it if I thought it were doable.

Here is the mobo I used: Tyan S-2696 (i5000XT)
I have 2 Xeon X-5365 (Clovertown) processors which came directly from Intel (yes these are the ones they put in the Mac Pros)
I also have 8 gigs of fully buffered Crucial Ram
and a nice RAID-0 array consisting of 4 WD RE2 500GB drives for a total of 2 TB (roughly).
Topped off with a BFG 8800 Ultra.

All of this is in an Antec P-190/1200 Chassis which is easily the nicest eatx case I have ever used, it includes 2 seperate power supplies linked together for a total of 1200 watts, very nice setup and insanely good cable management.
See the Case Here

The boot drive is a Raptor-X 150 and I have a nice DVD-r/rw drive installed as well.

I would seriously consider doing a hackintosh with this machine just for benchies if nothing else.
But I would also love to have it as an FCP workstation if it could be made stable enough.

Where does one begin? and how do we know the chipset can be made to work?


So what is working and what is not working now? This board can be had for 280$ on new egg open box right now. So thats not a bad price at all! The audio is ACL888 which many many people have gotten working and there are plenty of patches for *search skippyretard*

Does the networking work though? How is everything running? Give us the skinny.





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