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http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/7130380.stm

http://gayrepublic.o...s...2205&lead=1

http://lawprofessors...-iranian-m.html

What is particularly shocking about it is that Mr. Mouloodzadeh was 13 years old when he committed the "crime"!

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Those people kill each other for a lot of reasons. In Iran, sometimes brothers kill their sisters if they consider them to have "tainted the family honor". So yeah, these news don't shock me at all.

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In Iran, sometimes brothers kill their sisters if they consider them to have "tainted the family honor".


Some 50 years ago it happened here in Sicily as well. But now things have changed beyond recognition.

However it doesn't justify a State executing somebody because of a crime committed when he was a child. That is plain barbaric.

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Iran is a terrible place sometimes.

Let's just hope this doesn't give America an excuse for another war

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Let's just hope this doesn't give America an excuse for another war


Rest reassured, America couldn't care less about the life of a young gay man.
If they want to start another war they'll find another excuse.

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well thats what the koran tells them to do

the Sharia is their law

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well thats what the koran tells them to do

the Sharia is their law


I don't believe all Islamic countries murder gay people, especially children.
And in any case they went against the orders of an Ayatollah.

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The government was guilty of a greater crime that the criminal himself. Still, the criminal did need harsh punishment for raping three men, but obviously hanging is not the answer.

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The "victims" withdrew their accusations.

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Still, the criminal did need harsh punishment for raping three men


He was 13, for God's sake, when he allegedly did that.
In this country a person below 14 can not be prosecuted under the law, for any crime.
As to rape, England has a similar law:

http://www.indlii.org/Forensics.aspx

Under the law of England , a boy 14 year of age can not commit rape


See also here:

http://www.hklii.org.../1999/01/3.html

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The "victims" withdrew their accusations.

:angel: This is indeed odd.

still, the criminal did need harsh punishment for raping three men

That sort of came out wrong. I'm all for rehabilition > punishment. Ones life should not be ruined because of a stupid mistake (i.e. In the U.S. a 25-Life sentence. Even once your out of prison you have no future, as your shunned and cannot get a good job.) and it definitely should not be ended.

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How much credibility can be given to an accusation that was later withdrawn? None.

More likely than not, the accusers were lying about the whole thing.

People who tell the truth don't withdraw accusations. I know I wouldn't, had it actually happened.

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How about "Man executed for rape". Less sensationalist, More accurate.

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How about "Man executed for rape". Less sensationalist, More accurate.

well

no actually

its normal in iran that they make up accusations, just te get a {censored} person convicted and be able to kill him

according to the sharia, you need 3 witnesses in order to kill a {censored} person

being {censored} is forbidden in Islamic law (sharia)

the sharia is a kind of medieval, retarded law, that should be forbidden as fast as possible

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How about "Man executed for rape". Less sensationalist, More accurate.


The guy was 13 when he "raped" this person.

In many countries, you need to be much older for that.

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Well, we just talked about that topic in ethics class in school. Even some muslims said that the Sharia is obsolete! The mediaval times are over! Why do people still want to determine how other have to be? I dont get it.

Damn, he was 13 years old when he "raped" those boys. I'm really curios about how he "raped" them ... In germany its like in many other countries, you have to be at least 14 years old to be punished by law. Even after that you dont get hanged for being {censored}.

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In germany its like in many other countries, you have to be at least 14 years old to be punished by law. Even after that you dont get hanged for being gay.


I know :(
I lived in Germany for about 18 months. It is an extremely civilized country.

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How about "Man executed for rape". Less sensationalist, More accurate.


Totally wrong, because by "rape" apparently they just mean "sodomy"

http://lawprofessors...-iranian-m.html

Makvan Mouloodzadeh was executed on Dec. 5 for allegedly committing acts of anal rape (sodomy) with another young boy when he was only 13 years old.


I would guess that if this child had been accused of raping a young girl, he would not be punished in this manner. It seems that this young man, just 21 years old, was executed because he was gay.


the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court overturned the initial affirmation of the conviction. "In his November 10, 2007 opinion (1/86/8607), the Iranian Chief Justice described the death sentence to be in violation of Islamic teachings, the religious decrees of high-ranking Shiite clerics, and the law of the land."



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It really is piss poor form that the man was executed, Especially since a pardon had been issued.

Your first quote is strange, It merely reinforces my original point. The man was executed on charges of rape, Not on charges of homosexuality.

Makvan Mouloodzadeh was executed on Dec. 5 for allegedly committing acts of anal rape (sodomy) with another young boy when he was only 13 years old.


Your second quote is misquoted.

Your quote:

I would guess that if this child had been accused of raping a young girl, he would not be punished in this manner. It seems that this young man, just 21 years old, was executed because he was {censored}.


The actual quote from your linked article:

This is just a speculation on my part, but I would guess that if this child had been accused of raping a young girl, he would not be punished in this manner.


^^ That's one whole sentence, It should be quoted as one. Of course anyone is free to agree with his speculation.

Your third quote really has no bearing regarding my original post.

Carry on Gentlemen.

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It really is piss poor form that the man was executed, Especially since a pardon had been issued.

Your first quote is strange, It merely reinforces my original point. The man was executed on charges of rape, Not on charges of homosexuality.


What I get an impression of, however, is that they charged him of rape when in fact it really was homosexual acts that they wanted him hung for. Charging him for rape gives them an excuse that won't be argued with by other countries.

Or perhaps I'm just being a cynic....





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