Jump to content

Suggestion: Split up the forums


  • Please log in to reply
49 replies to this topic

#1
stryder

stryder

    InsanelyMac Geek

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 235 posts
  • Location:Canada, eh!
Is it just me, or are the forums becoming too hard to navigate?

Every post I go through is difficult to discern whether it applies to OS X running on home-built x86 boxes or the new real Apple boxes.

Is there any way that the forums can be divided up, so that questions, posts, etc., that apply to that platform stay within that forum?

Just a suggestion, or am I alone in this opinion?

#2
Swad

Swad

    Founder.

  • Administrators
  • 3,709 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago
Good question - what does everyone think?

The way it's set up is that "OS X" is for general OS X talk while "OSx86 Installation" is for OSx86 specific. Keep in mind, though, that in a few months the versions will be the same, just running on different boxes.

#3
cyris ng

cyris ng

    InsanelyMac Protégé

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 71 posts

Good question - what does everyone think?

The way it's set up is that "OS X" is for general OS X talk while "OSx86 Installation" is for OSx86 specific. Keep in mind, though, that in a few months the versions will be the same, just running on different boxes.

How about

OS X on Dull Little Boxes <= PC

OS X on Macs <= Apple branded PCs.

#4
U.C.

U.C.

    The Leopard Roars

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,080 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:God's Green Earth
  • Interests:Everything Apple, Computers, Movies
i don know,maybe,needs more thought

#5
Ouch

Ouch

    Weee, what a predicament!

  • Retired
  • 1,190 posts
  • Location:Edinburgh, Scotland
Seems like a logical move - most of the discussion for real macs will be about getting windows to play nice with efi, and most of the dull little box owners will be trying to get 10.4 to ignore EFI :-)

#6
Swad

Swad

    Founder.

  • Administrators
  • 3,709 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago
Good points. This is a pretty big move, so we'll need a lot of input on this one!

#7
Technobob

Technobob

    InsanelyMac Legend

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 875 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ontario, Canada
I do agree a split would be a good thing, especially with dual boot. As time goes on and more people get the new Intel Mac's having a separate area for discussion would be good.

#8
Ouch

Ouch

    Weee, what a predicament!

  • Retired
  • 1,190 posts
  • Location:Edinburgh, Scotland

Good points. This is a pretty big move, so we'll need a lot of input on this one!


Just set up two new forums and get people to use them. Then only move existing posts as need be - i.e the very active ones from the old forum to the two new ones. Then you could just lock the old forum and keep it as a reference.
I don't think theres anyneed to go through all the current topics and move them - unless you were extremely bored of an evening...

#9
Mr. Blonde

Mr. Blonde

    InsanelyMac Protégé

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 71 posts
Split it in to two parts:

OS X

OS X86

#10
johan

johan

    Nuke ATWT fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 427 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Netherlands
i think that a splitup is not the way to go

this forum started as a forum on how to get osx working on a pc

owners of a real mac can use all the other forums available, there a plenty

so just keep things as they are

:blink:

#11
Hagar

Hagar

    Project Dogsbody

  • Administrators
  • 2,352 posts
  • Location:Over the hills &amp; far away
How about just a simple visual change, like beige apples for beige box threads, & blue apples for white box threads?

#12
Swad

Swad

    Founder.

  • Administrators
  • 3,709 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago
BTW, if you decide that's what you want, any "splitting up" would just mean having two forums within the larger, OSx86 Project, forum.

So it wouldn't mean making a whole new site. Just in case there was some confusion.

#13
stryder

stryder

    InsanelyMac Geek

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 235 posts
  • Location:Canada, eh!

BTW, if you decide that's what you want, any "splitting up" would just mean having two forums within the larger, OSx86 Project, forum.

So it wouldn't mean making a whole new site. Just in case there was some confusion.


I agree. If it's possible, just start another forum for the real Macs, and keep this one for the hackintoshes.

That's my $0.02 CDN ($0.0172 US)

#14
Callysto

Callysto

    InsanelyMac Geek

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 199 posts
I think the inclusion of a new forum for Intel Macs should suffice while leaving the other forums as they are there will still be many users who have problems with PC installs etc. and as it's been mentioned this is what OSX86project was set up for, otherwise it may make some users feel like they are out of the loop

Edited by Callysto, 22 January 2006 - 03:09 PM.


#15
xSuRgEx

xSuRgEx

    InsanelyMac Geek

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 134 posts
the forums could do with being split across the 2 platforms.
it would make it easyer for members to find the info they require for the platform they are use.

would be still include 10.4.4 (hacked) in the current forums?

#16
Urbz

Urbz

    La cr�me de la cr�me...(?)

  • Retired Developers
  • 837 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Montreal, QC, Canada
i don't think that splitting the forums is a good idea.
I have had no trouble identifying posts about real apple computers and our whitebox pcs, and the only hacking is temporary, until we get our hands on 10.4.4. once it'll all been hacked, sure drivers and tools will continue to be developed, but that does not interfere with people who went out and bought an intel mac.
keep it the way it is now, because very soon the platforms will be unified completely: and someone hacking osx86 for whitbox pcs may need to know things from a person with a new imac. So for the sake of simplicity, keep things as they currently are.

#17
Mr. Bond

Mr. Bond

    The man with the golden gun.

  • Retired
  • 881 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada
Those all seem like logical ideas...

IMO, I think the focus of the site should still stay on OSX running on x86 beige boxes. Chances are, people running OSX on their Apple branded x86's shouldn't really have any of the major hardware/software problems that beige users do. Like Takuro said, most people with Apple branded PC's will be trying to get windows to act all happy with EFI.

But I'm sure there will eventually be overlap, when people start trying to upgrade Apple hardware with standard PC hardware. Where will they go when they want to get generic graphic cards and other things working in their Macintel? They'll go to the beige box forum, and boundaries will start to get blurred again.

I say keep the forums the way they are, but add an extra sub to deal specifically with Apple Macintels. I did like Hagar's idea though of designating the type of PC with either a blue Apple or a Beige Apple. How hard would that be to integrate into the forums?

Edited by MrBond, 22 January 2006 - 05:22 PM.


#18
crac

crac

    InsanelyMac Protégé

  • Just Joined
  • Pip
  • 2 posts

Those all seem like logical ideas...

IMO, I think the focus of the site should still stay on OSX running on x86 beige boxes. Chances are, people running OSX on their Apple branded x86's shouldn't really have any of the major hardware/software problems that beige users do. Like Takuro said, most people with Apple branded PC's will be trying to get windows to act all happy with EFI.

But I'm sure there will eventually be overlap, when people start trying to upgrade Apple hardware with standard PC hardware. Where will they go when they want to get generic graphic cards and other things working in their Macintel? They'll go to the beige box forum, and boundaries will start to get blurred again.

I say keep the forums the way they are, but add an extra sub to deal specifically with Apple Macintels. I did like Hagar's idea though of designating the type of PC with either a blue Apple or a Beige Apple. How hard would that be to integrate into the forums?


Why not just start a new subforum for osx86 Homebrew, and osx86 Apple ? the only danger is that cross-posting could occur... perhaps a subforum for EFI related posts, as I think the key to that puzzle is more in the TPM than in the EFI... Apple reports to be following Intel standards in this, or they haven't provided ANY documentation as to how this works. What concerns me greatly is the time between properly documenting this 'feature' of the equipment I purchased, and who exactly is privy to the TPM information? Let's hear it for OPEN standards based computing that Apple was claiming to be such a proponent of. If this is a protectionist move on Apple's part to prevent dilution of their hardware business, I think it's a bit misguided.
<offtopicrant>
They can either provide full documentation or wait for the hacker that's pissed off enough to break out the logic probes and out what's going on in that module. Transparency is KEY for this type of secure computing operation. It can't be some smoke and mirrors, uh wait for the documentation while we stealth mode all of your data from you... you turned it on remember? that means you agree to our terms and conditions... blech corporate.
</offtopicrant>

more forums are good imho.

S.

#19
brockpetrie

brockpetrie

    InsanelyMac Protégé

  • Just Joined
  • Pip
  • 2 posts

more forums are good imho.

i agree.

i dont see how it could hurt anything- it could only help.

#20
Darktear

Darktear

    InsanelyMac Protégé

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 78 posts
  • Location:Norway
I think splitting is an good ida :D

Maby this (as in what we have now) should be locked down, still searchable. And just start two fresh new boards :D





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

© 2014 InsanelyMac  |   News  |   Forum  |   Downloads  |   OSx86 Wiki  |   Mac Netbook  |   PHP hosting by CatN  |   Designed by Ed Gain  |   Logo by irfan  |   Privacy Policy