Dr. Hurt Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Finally, the objective we've been working for since the beginning of the osx86 project has been achieved. Booting an unmodified version of OS X and being able to run system updates safely is now possible. Netkas has modified the darwin boot loader to enable it to directly boot the UNMODIFIED EFI kernel that apple uses on real macs. The latest version is V6 which has the following: -multiboot support -FSB auto detection detection. -ability to use some graphics cards without natit -Boot using GPT (Guid Partition Table) The problem is that this will only work on modern computers with modern CPUs. See the FAQ below. As requested, here is the blog link: http://netkas.freeflux.net/ Frequently Asked Questions (posted on netkas website):- Q: what acpithrotle.kext for? should i install it? A: it's only for throtling (intel speedstep, amd cool) ur cpu, if u doesn't want to do it - doesn't install it, it doesn't work with vanilla apple kernel Q: what does vanilla kernel means ? A: Vanilla kernel is kernel from Original developers, in this case, it's kernel from original apple's dvd or from original dmg, or from macintosh with installed leopard/tiger Q: do i need dsmos.kext ? A: yes , u need it for vanila kernel and pc_efi, u doesn't need it for ToH kernel Q: do i need to use applesmbios.kext from efi_pc pkg if i use efi_pc bootloader A: this kext offers fixes for system profiles, loginwindow crashes and etc, if u have them. U still can use vanila applesmbios.kext, if u doesn't need this fixes Q: what cpus can run vanila kernel with pc_efi ? A: all Core 2 Duo, pentium e2160 e2140 e2180, all core duo and core solo, and maybe celeron 420(not tested yet) Q:if my cpu can't run vanila kernel, can i use advantages of pc_efi? A: yes, u can use it with ToH kernel, this kernel disable all anti-efi workaeounds if it finds efi Q:what advantages of pc_efi? A:U can use vanila appleacpiplatform and smbios, ur pc gets closer to real mac, and geekbench2 shows ur system as mac, not a hack. Q: do i need hpet for vanila kernel? A: HPET exists on most modern motherboard, but only HPET on mobos with intel chipsets supported by osx. Q: what about AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext in leopard? A: in tiger this kext was making some cpus cooler, but in leo, this kext make cpus hoter, so, i suggest to do not use it. Q: what is ToH kernel? A: speedstep kernel from topic of #10.5 channel on irx.osx86.hu network. Well, I guess it's time for me to buy a new computer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnekton1 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 This is really BIG and amazing news that is going spread like wildfire. What main board and Core 2 Duo works? Finally, the objective we've been working for since the beginning of the osx86 project has been achieved. Booting an unmodified version of OS X and being able to run system updates safely is now possible. Netkas has modified the darwin bootloader to enable it to directly boot the UNMODIFIED EFI kernel that apple uses on real macs. The problem is that this will only work on modern computers. Core 2 and a motherboard with HPET are required. Other hardware like sse2 cpus or older 64bit cpus will still need some modifications to the kernel. Netkas is not planning on releasing it yet as he is still improving the emulation. Well, I guess it's time for me to buy a new computer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberdog ! Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 It's à real big big news ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Awesome! This is front page material! God bless you, Netkas! hecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 This is huge! My motherboard has efi, and hpet, and my cpu is 64-bit, but it won't work? (P4, intel 945GTP) Anyway, it doesn't matter, this is one of the biggest announcements EVER for OSX86. Hell yeah! I wonder if apple will respond with additional checks on it's hardware, this would make OSX86 too easy, I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipguy Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 your frikken joking !!! this is amazing news !!! Joe, is there a blog where we can keep an eye on info regarding the progress ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kejkz Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Fantastic news! Maybe u r right about update, it's about time to ditch this granny of mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-rick Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 this is really brilliant. I read he was working on it but still very unexpected news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipguy Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 anyone know where i can find a cpu util so i can check if my cpu supports hpet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dio Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Congratulations !!!!!! One of the best news for OSX86. ... It's time for me too to change my PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tried Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 OMG... Talk about insane awesomeness!! cant wait to hear more!! Tried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Joe, is there a blog where we can keep an eye on info regarding the progress ? Netkas' blog is netkas.freeflux.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadybootleggin Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 my chip is not ''core 2'' but, it does have two cores (pentium d) does that quallify ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 No. But this is very much still work in progress, and not even released yet...It might still work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hurt Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 pentium d and pentium 4 with sse3 will work fine if your motherboard has HPET but 64-bit applications won't work. I think most motherboards already have that starting from ICH4 or ICH5 (I don't really remember). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCa Cola Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 outstanding! great work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konami® Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Oh my god, I can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmal Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Oh my God ! This is AMAZING !! Mal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokra128 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 well, I wait to see the wonder .. at this point is not even a nice dvd install .... for leopard .. I wait to see when a nice one will appear ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Sweetness!!! That guy deserves major props for his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Turfboer Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 This is awsome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Wow! This is a great step forward for OSX86! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I'll believe it when I see it.. "amazing" announcements about EFI have come from this direction before, without ever producing anything tangible. in short: "release or it never happened" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteo Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Truly amazing. Kudos netkas!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_muad_dib Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 hmm i thought it was something about running unmodified yes, but only on efi mainboards.. not on bios... anyways, great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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