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Will I be able to avoid these problems simply by installing the operating systems on different drives, or will it still cause bother?


It really is just a yes/no answer I'm looking for on this one.

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Guess I'll just have to wipe my hard drives and spend hours with trial and error.

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Will I be able to avoid these problems simply by installing the operating systems on different drives, or will it still cause bother?


Which problems exactly do you mean? Those with the bootloader, windows bootloader or chameleon bootloader?

My best (and seems most of the people here) have the best experiences with installations (Windows / MAC OS X) on different partitions (Windows in NTFS and OS X in HFS+ extended (journaled)) on 1 and the same hard disk.

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I installed OS X on a separate hard drive. I used the bootloader built into Windows.

Copied the chain0 file from

/usr/standalone/i386/chain0

to

C:\chain0

Then added

C:\chain0="Mac OS X"

To my Windows bootloader. It works flawlessly. When I turn the computer on, I get a menu for

Windows
Mac OS X

I can choose either, and once I select and press enter, it automatically boots into the desired OS. No other settings required.

Thanks, this worked for my PC too.

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Hey there, I love the compillation of different "guides" here but have I overlooked one using the new Chameleon RC1? For some reason I'm having a hell of a time getting it to work properly!

I'm trying to quad boot win 7, win xp, leopard and ubuntu 9.04, on one harddrive. I reformatted, and I have access to a different Leopard installed on IDE, but that's for testing right now. I'm also trying to get leopard vanilla, but that's a different story. How does one install PC EFI 9 and chameleon bootloader? Do we install on an "efi" partition? Do we install to HFS partition? (In the customize screen) or do we install it on the boot sector? I may be talking smack since I don't quite know the function of chameleon, does it replace the darwin? Does it go to darwin? Someone willing to clear this up?

Thank you!
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Hey,
I installed XP and OSX in same drive. Set XP as the active partinion and copied chain0 to C: After that when I select XP in boot.ini loader it works fine. But when i select OSX, it opens the darwin bootloader and darwin asks again for which drive to boot. Active one is XP so when i disable the darwin prompt it tries to boot XP and it goes to a endless cycle. I dont want darwin to ask me to choose. I want darwin to boot to osx automatically. How can i do it? thanx

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I have dual booting Windows 7/Mac OS X with Windows on internal drive and OSX on external. I use Chameleon 2 installed to the external drive. Chameleon 2 is great because it detects the partitions on both of the discs, although it would be better if you could hide some of them.

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I have got a 250GB Seagate S-ATA HDD.
Now I install Windows 7 on a 175 GB Partition and after that Mac on a 75 GB Partition.
After this the PC boots into Mac and I only have to install Charmeleon 2.0?

Is it that easy?

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hi...

i have a "quad-boot"System with Vista, XP, Ubuntu and iDeneb 10.5.4.
As bootloader i use GRUB. Its perfekt, but when i start OSX in GRUB it starts the bootloader of OSX. Good.
But the thing is in the OSX bootloader there is also a entry for windows. how do i delete them?

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Lets see, with WinXP installed first I installed OSX on the second partition of another drive, and when I would boot to that drive originally, it would result in a boot0: error. Then I used chain0 to add the OSX bootloader to the XP bootloader because no other bootloader worked.

I mean, I can dualboot OSX fine with the XP bootloader, but why dont the others ( ie Chameleon, EFI, etc ) work.. Could someone direct me in the right way?

Motherboard is A8N-SLi and chipset drivers installed indicate the mobo as being an A8N-E in OSX.

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This is how I got Chameleon working on my machine using two separate hard drives, one for Vista 64 Home Premium Edition and the other for retail Leopard 10.5.6.

First I opened up the computer and disconnected the Vista drive's sata cable from the motherboard.

I then installed Leopard on its hard drive first (remember I'm using two separate drives in my install) using a retail version of Leopard.
I then installed updates to 10.5.7 and finished the install there. I then shutdown.

I then reversed the process, I disconnected the OSX drive from the motherboard and re-connected the Vista drive and then installed Vista. I installed a few programs then shut down the computer. I then ensured that both drives were connected to the motherboard.

I then restarted the computer, entered BIOS and then selected the hard drive boot order, OSX being the priority drive to boot. I exited BIOS and I then booted up the PC again, this time I pressed F12 to select the hard drive to boot from (at this stage I was completly unaware of what to expect from Chameleon and how it worked). I selected the OSX drive, booted into Leopard, installed Chameleon 2 RC2 and restarted the machine.

Voila! I was pleasantly greeted with the Chameleon screen with the OSX logo and a countdown icon. Press any key and it gives you then two options, Windows and OSX, choose which one you want then hit enter.

Both OSX and Vista boot no probs.

Thats how I got it working, don't know how but it worked for me.

UD3P motherboard.

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I want to install Win7 and install Macosx 10.5.6 as a dual boot. Which boot loader should I use and is there an updated walkthrough or guide made? the ones I found required Linux?

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Hi,

I have sort of followed what the poster above me (keeza) has done, but not exactly in that order.

I have a fully functioning OS X install with Chameleon RC2 installed. This is on a single partition, first sata drive. When I try to boot into Windows 7 which is on my second drive (again, single partition), it quickly blue screens and restarts.

There are another 2 drives connected, one ntfs and one macos, but neither of these hold operating systems and are not bootable.

Why would my system bluescreen when I use a similar setup to keeza ?

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Hi,
here's my problem :
i have osX 10.5.6 fully runing on my x61s on a single hard drive.

i bought a new hard and bigger hard drive ; partitionned it like this :
1 - empty part - 70g
2 - xp part - ntfs - 50g
3 - data part - ntfs - 300 go


i'd REALLY like to be able to copy my working and tweaked instal of osX from my old HD to my new HD.... do you now how i can do that? the trick is i can't access both drive on the same time (both are sata and i don't have any sata usb caddy).

i have a usb hard drive that i can use for transfer ; i'm currently doing a full time machine of my osX install on this usb drive, maybe can i simply use this save to restore osX on my new HD when booted from osX install CD?

any help appreciated!
thanks

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Hi,
here's my problem :
i have osX 10.5.6 fully runing on my x61s on a single hard drive.

i bought a new hard and bigger hard drive ; partitionned it like this :
1 - empty part - 70g
2 - xp part - ntfs - 50g
3 - data part - ntfs - 300 go


i'd REALLY like to be able to copy my working and tweaked instal of osX from my old HD to my new HD.... do you now how i can do that? the trick is i can't access both drive on the same time (both are sata and i don't have any sata usb caddy).

i have a usb hard drive that i can use for transfer ; i'm currently doing a full time machine of my osX install on this usb drive, maybe can i simply use this save to restore osX on my new HD when booted from osX install CD?

any help appreciated!
thanks


Hi

need some more information about your system:

  • is your mac os x leopard hackintosh (ideneb, kalyway, XxX ect.) or retail installation?
  • in case of retail, do you have a boot132 disc?
  • in case of hackintosh, do you boot up with Chameleon? Is chameleon installed on your os x partition or on a separate small partition?
  • Is your first (small) original disc partitioned in GUID of MBR? If you have a windows on that same disc, it's MBR. In case you don't know, go to disc utility -> single click on the name of your small hard disc, so not on the partition name but the complete disc (for me e.g. the name is "698,6 GB SAMSUNG HD753LJ Media") and look at the bottom of your screen if it displays GUID of MBR.
  • Can you see/access your new drive and its partitions when you're working in MAC OS X?
With this information we might be able to help you out.

Gtz

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Thanks a lot, here's the answers :

  • is your mac os x leopard hackintosh (ideneb, kalyway, XxX ect.) or retail installation?
ideneb 10.5.6

  • in case of retail, do you have a boot132 disc?
  • in case of hackintosh, do you boot up with Chameleon? Is chameleon installed on your os x partition or on a separate small partition?
i think i have chameleon RC2.0 (last version) installed on osX partition

  • Is your first (small) original disc partitioned in GUID of MBR? If you have a windows on that same disc, it's MBR. In case you don't know, go to disc utility -> single click on the name of your small hard disc, so not on the partition name but the complete disc (for me e.g. the name is "698,6 GB SAMSUNG HD753LJ Media") and look at the bottom of your screen if it displays GUID of MBR.
it must be GUID (only osX on this drive)

  • Can you see/access your new drive and its partitions when you're working in MAC OS X?
no because i only have one SATA port in my laptop and don't have any usb SATA caddy right now...
i do have another usb hard drive for the transfer.



also have to mention that on the new hard drive XP is already installed on the second partition

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any help?

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any help?


Ok, well, I'm trying to help you out, if it doesn 't work, don't shoot me. Anyway, you won't destroy anything when doing what I'm going to write here down, in worst case everything stays like it was before. Make sure you really have the latest chameleon installed, which is chameleon 2.0 RC2 r640

!!! 1 thing I don't know, and you should to be sure of before beginning: I don't know how XP repair CD works in case things go wrong, so to make your XP partition back active. Before you start, make sure you have a XP disk and know the commands to make XP partition active. But I guess you have XP CD because you installed it recently on your new HD.

When I installed OS X and everything, I messed up a lot, but was always able to repair things because I had the Vista repair disk and OS X install DVD to be able to go to DOS and Terminal to repair things...

So what you need is:
  • Your iDeneb DVD (so burned on a DVD DL to be able to boot with, guess you have that already?)
  • your most recent Time machine backup on external USB hard disk
I don't know how much experience you have with these things, so don't feel offended if I explain it like explaining something to a complete newbie; it's better to explain it clear rather than skipping steps so you get stuck from the beginning.

1. disconnect USB drive, connect your new hard drive and boot in XP, delete your current empty partition in disk management, simply right mouse button and 'erase' partition'.

2. create a compatible partition (FAT32) by applying:
  • go to run-> cmd, and type following commands in DOS:
  • diskpart
  • list disk
  • select disk X (with X number of your disk, I suppose 0)
  • create partition primary size=Y id=af (with Y = size in MB which of course cannot be more than the free space you have on the disk after deleting your free partition just done before)
3. keep your new HD connected en reboot with you iDeneb DVD inserted. Boot from the DVD.

4. go to disk utility, select the partition you just made (and where new Mac OS X will come), select 'MAC OS X Journaled extended', give it the name you want (I wouldn't use spaces in the name, just to be sure, so use underscores instead) and click 'erase'. Shut system down.

5. connect external USB Time machine drive and reboot with still DVD inserted and still new disk connected.

6. Go to utilities and to 'put back system', something like that, the button to restore your system from Time Machine. At this point I'm not exactly sure, but you normally should be able to select Time Machine external USB as 'source' and your new created partition as 'destination'. Let it restore.

7.After this is done you can try to reboot with DVD NOT inserted anymore. It could work but think you'll get the error: "chain booting error" at startup. Use this post I made, and follow the steps in chapter 1 under the category "In case you DO HAVE a newer osx86 dvd installation disk WITH chameleon bootloader-----"

After you did the codes in terminal also follow the guide under the code about making the partition (your new OS X partition) active when you have chameleon 2.0 installed.

That should be it. Normally, chameleon 2.0 scans the disks and partitions at startup, so also with the new situation he should do that. Your system didn't change so that isn't a problem either (concerning kexts chameleon uses) and you have only 1 SATA disk, so this again should be disk 0, number which is automatically given by BIOS. So good luck with it, let me know if it worked. If not, still have an alternative, using Superduper which can create a bootable OS X clone, so even booable on e.g. a Firewire or USB hard disc or a new hard disc.

In case it doesn't work: your new disk won't boot XP anymore, but i guess you have a repair disk for that, for simply putting your XP partition back to active? In my guide I linked before, i explain how to do that for Vista, to be honest, I'm not using XP anymore for several years, so I don't know what XP has as repair/boot up disk so you are able to go to DOS to write down the commands you also find in my little guide.


gtz

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thanks a lot for this winderful reply;
i tried but the instal process got stuck at time machine restore ; maybe something wrong with the usb support...
so i chose to reinstall all from scratch, painfull but working!
thanks again anyway

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thanks a lot for this winderful reply;
i tried but the instal process got stuck at time machine restore ; maybe something wrong with the usb support...
so i chose to reinstall all from scratch, painfull but working!
thanks again anyway


Ok, sorry it didn 't work. Good to know which part didn't succeed, my knowledge grows every day a little more :) . But as I wrote, that was the 'tricky' part, the part I wasn't sure of, the other steps I do was sure of. But yes, it's part of the game. I reinstalled OS X more than 10 times (6-7 times iDeneb) and couple of times retail. Now everything works flawless except for sleep and shut down, and it 's rock solid. But a reinstall only takes 30 min; I only start installing all the porgrams when I'm completely sure the basic system everything works. Now with snow leopard, it will all start over again -_- . Have to buy a new (my 5th already) hard disk (50‚) so my current system isn't destroyed, and trying to install SL on it.

Anyway, I suggest to everyone who starts with hackintosh to search first if a retail install isn't possible. Will be much more stable if everything works and you'll be able to do all the updates without worries. Of course with a laptop things get more complicated, so iDeneb could be only solution than...

BTW; what you also can try is; just install your ideneb 1.4 on your new disk (nothing more, even not kexts) and try again what I explained with time machine restore. There might be a chance that OS X is recognized and a restore is permitted now when you boot with DVD. What Time Machine does when restoring system, is simply quick erasing current partition (your fresh installed ideneb) and copy completely the system you have on Time machine external USB hard disc. This way you don't have to reinstall all your settings.

If it wouldn't work, well, you lost half an hour or so and can start with a clean install again. Of course, when you start with your new system (after the movie of 'welcome') OS X asks if you want to migrate data from existing OS X: you can select Time Machine backup for that. This way, all your music, movies, mails, settings etc are kept, and all you still need to do is install your programs again (guess like adobe CS 4, office for mac etc)

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