errandwolfe Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 1. Can I upgrade my PowerPC (G3/G4/G5) using software update? -Yes of course, go for it. 2. Can I upgrade my Intel Macintosh using software update? -Yes. There have been a few minor problem reports, but you own a real Mac. If you have a problem call tech support. 3. Can I upgrade my Intel Hackintosh using software update? -Kind of....Kernalzero (and others) have been able to upgrade with software update but then there are several additional steps you need to take. Several package installers are being created, but right now this is all bleeding edge stuff. Don't attempt anything unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing. This is definitely not meant for newbies. See the bottom of this post for several different methods. 4. Can I upgrade my AMD Hackintosh? -Possibly. Tubgirl has just posted her AMD Test 1 update on TPB. Remember that this is still bleeding edge and that this is a TEST release. I would suggest anyone who tries this be very comfortable with working in Terminal in case it messes something up on your system. All that being said, let the developers and guru's here work out the kinks. Newb's and casual users should wait until custom installer packages are produced by the usual kernel god's. Above all else, BACKUP YOUR SYSTEM BEFORE YOU UPGRADE!!! I hope this helps answer a few questions so people are not slamming the developers while they try to create packages for the rest of us. Now that all that is clear...Here are some current installation methods: 1. Kernalzero's method using the Paulicat kernel* 2. Update hackintosh 10.4.8 to 10.4.9 (Intel SSE2/3) - Retains 8.8.1 kernel 3. Using the Loki updater (Intel only - See IRC channel for full details - Torrent on the Green Demon) 4. Installing 10.4.9 on a Thinkpad T43 (thanks to rathalos) 5. Updating to 10.4.9 on an AMD System (thanks to Tubgirl) For the latest news on the development of the 10.4.9 kernel and other osx86 issues on IRC go to: irc.osx86.hu in channel #osx86 Here are some solutions to common problems after a 10.4.9 Upgrade:1. If you hang at loginwindow on 10.4.9 (thanks to netkas)2. What if I can not select the new kernel in the Loki installer? I will continue to update this with links to installation guides. Kernel and Developer guru's. If you discover a new method or build a new package and would like it included in this list, please just PM me with a link to the thread discussing your work. *- Regarding the Kernalzero method, please see the below note from Kernalzero regarding credit for his method: I was actually using paulicat's combo update method that he devised when the 10.4.8 combo was released. I simply used that method for 10.4.9 using prasys kernel script (the kernel was actually hacked by semthex) to update. I hope that clears it up, I just want those who did the work to get the credit ;-) take care pm me with questions Last edited: 04-14-07 9:36 AM EDT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forceman Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks for the update about AMD CPU's, I'll wait for sure until a fix comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks for this very helpful and informative post errandwolfe! Much appreciated. - SABR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Any real advantage to updating to 10.4.9? If there's nothing really gained then I'll probably skip it for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errandwolfe Posted March 16, 2007 Author Share Posted March 16, 2007 There are many improvements to OS X over all. It definitely is worth upgrading once the guru's get the major kinks worked out. In the meantime sit and wait patiently. I know development of 10.4.9 on Hackintoshes are moving at a frantic pace. It should not be too much longer until those who have a fully functional 10.4.8 will be able to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyboy Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I used the loki updater with the new kernel also and i must say is very sweet Well done you guys that made it happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolBits Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I got AMD update from TPB (tubgrl). Run it... Before reboot i re-added my NVIDIA device ids to NV kexts then i rebooted. Just to be sure i started in -s and run the patcher with amd_1049_new.txt (included in pkg) updated prebindings. On reboot it started normaly and the only thing needs to change is kernel (now still 8.8.1) Only thing that doesnt work now is "About this mac" in menu... everything else works ok and i have 10.4.9 on AMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifki Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 coolbits, i patched newer loginwindow for amd currently myzar uses older one, and if ur about this mac crashes, get netkas's loginwindow and patch them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolBits Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 coolbits, i patched newer loginwindow for amd currently myzar uses older one, and if ur about this mac crashes, get netkas's loginwindow and patch them That worked great thanks its all perfect again, i only need to drop a new kernel in when its ready... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuro Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 That worked great thanks its all perfect again, i only need to drop a new kernel in when its ready... Intel users don't have to wait for the 10.4.9 kernel, right? Netka handled it too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteo Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Yes Takuro, there's a 8.9.1 kernel floating around, made by netkas. It needs Intel, SS3, NX and HPET. Join the IRC channel to grab it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuro Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 (edited) The Loki update and Netka kernel are working awesomely. Great job! Edited March 18, 2007 by Takuro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrafuese Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Hey errandwolfe, thanks for the Q&A. Check out this post by xevean regarding the AMD tubgril test: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=45615 ...haven't tried it for myself yet, but it looks promising. Also, this was just posted today by netkas (for AMD & Intel users): http://netkas.freeflux.net/blog/ I'm just re-iterating posts from other threads (credit goes to the respective posters), but I'm trying to help keep as much 10.4.9 update discussion in one place as possible to make it easier on everyone. Thanks, Agra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbrush Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Any real advantage to updating to 10.4.9? If there's nothing really gained then I'll probably skip it for a while. Rosetta runs faster in 10.4.9, this alone is worth the upgrade. Not to mention improved nVidia OpenGL performance, and faster WoW graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_muad_dib Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 using amd test1 + 8.9.1 kernel X2. works great!. i just get a stutter once a day! very near to perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wang Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 It seems that my desktop has a very simple update route to 10.4.9 with 8.9.1 kernel, it almost uses all kexts from 10.4.9 without any problems. I post the procedures here so that someone has Gigabyte 8I965P-DQ6 rev.2.0 might confirm it. 1. Freshly install JaS 10.4.8 Intel SSE3 Only. 2. Update to 10.4.9 via Software Update (no reboot) 3. Replace AppleSMBIOS.kext and IOATAFamily.kext from Paulicat (http://paulicat.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2006/11/13/osx86-10-4-4-to-10-4-8-upgrade-guide.html) 4. Replace kernel from #1049 @ irc.osx86.hu 5. Install r3d3.kext from #1049 @ irc.osx86.hu 6. Repair permissions accordingly 7. Reboot and done After that, just reinstall Video, Audio and on-board LAN drivers, then everything is working great again. By the way, in a China OSX86 forum, some one made a package to enable both ICH8R SATA and Jmicron363 SATA. It works great on my DQ6 also. Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 using amd test1 + 8.9.1 kernel X2. works great!. i just get a stutter once a day! very near to perfect Does your CPU shows as 2 cores? I am using the same kernel with my Opteron, but it only show 1 CPU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_muad_dib Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 sure, 2 cores, you sure you haven't used the x2 solo kernel? use the other instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Yes I am sure, I have both, but I just tested on VMware, I am backing up my Native Disk to test it there. Thanks lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Does your CPU shows as 2 cores?I am using the same kernel with my Opteron, but it only show 1 CPU Hi Macgirl, here is mine: Hardware Overview: Machine Name: Mac Machine Model: ACPI Processor Name: Intel Core Duo Processor Speed: 4 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache (per processor): 2 MB Memory: 4 GB Bus Speed: 800 MHz Boot ROM Version: NT94510J.4051.2007 I used JaS' combo update. I have a Pentium D 950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xevean Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 the dual core kernel shows up as x2 1 core disabled while the x2 1 core disabled kernel shows up as dual core. at least it did on my machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Thanks, xevean, I'm on x2 1 core disabled kernel and yes it show now 2 cores, to graphs on Processor Palette and Activity Monitor, also got better Xbench results with this than the x2 kernel, could they be mis-switched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotoh Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I have same behaviour here, also needed to set FSB at 133 to get correct speed detected and fix the audio glitching... Now runs perfect with 2 cores, fast and smooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_muad_dib Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 @gotoh: you got a manchester or a toledo core? strange behaviour hmmm maybe it's due different cpu designs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binary.koala Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 after the update my P4 524 3.06 shows up as "4.30 GHz Intel Core Solo", which i totally don't mind (HT on/off didn't matter) my performance rating also jumped quite a lot, now my overall (-hard disk) in Xbench is ~130 compared to ~90 on 10.4.8! although i didn't really feel the difference i think it's a great improvement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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