Urbz Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Alright, i'm gonna pick up the new 30gb iPod, but i have 2 dilemmas: 1- Black or White? I'm familiar with the whole "black gets dirty" thing, but i really need to make a decision... 2- Mac or PC? Now that I have both, which should i format it as? For things like calendar and notes and contacts, wouldn't mac just be better? I have transmac 6 for windows, so i would be able to access the iPod from windows as well... Which is the better filesystem, all-in-all? Thanx, Urby3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaiOSX Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 1) Black is cool, but because the new iPod is easily scratchable, i'll go for the White. 2) I would say "fat32" (Windows) for the compatibility. All the Operating systems today are able to read "fat32" volumes or storage devices. Even if it's slower than HFS+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbz Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 really? Fat32 is slower than HFS+? A few questions: If i do format it for mac, could i more easily synch stickies and other stuff? Also, there's a lot of freeware and other ipod stuff for mac os x. Do they work with windows formatted ipods too, or just mac ones? Currently, I think im leaning twoards the HFS+ filesystem. Oh, and the black VS white thing... man i still dont know... can i get other opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaiOSX Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 The Filesystem format has nothing to do with apps. The apps are using OS X disk framework to access the iPod. As long as it is recognized and mounted in your finder, it will be the same result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmidrf Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 personally, I would recommend FAT32. It will work just as well on PC's as OSX, and if you need to transfer files between the two, you can use the dual-platform-formatted iPod to transfer files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbz Posted November 20, 2005 Author Share Posted November 20, 2005 Great, thanks everyone. I kept the ipod as it came: a FAT32 partition. I also got the white...man i just couldn't say no to apple's signature!!! And finally, i love my new ipod. It's rly great. So thanks again to all who posted, and to Apple...Cuz i luv them THIIIIIIS MUUUUUCHH!!! (well more but i mean i cant sit here all day...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Has anyone seen any tests to see which format is more stable or faster? It would seem that since it's made by Apple that HFS would be faster, but I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrana Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 (edited) I bet FAT32 is faster, it has a lot less filesystem overhead and no journaling options or anything fancy, really. I just keep my iPods as FAT32 though, so its easy to mount them as a hard drive on a windows machine if I need to, w/out needing MacDrive or somthing. Edited November 29, 2005 by cyrana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 When I connected my first and only iPod, it was on my PC, I did not know at the time it formats like a storage device, so it was formatted as FAT32 without any ask, then I connected to my PowerBook and worked fine. If I connected to my PowerBook first did it be formatted as HFS or I could choose the filesystem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) If I connected to my PowerBook first did it be formatted as HFS or I could choose the filesystem? I think, if you use a Mac first, it formats it with HFS. I bet FAT32 is faster, it has a lot less filesystem overhead and no journaling options or anything fancy, really. I just keep my iPods as FAT32 though, so its easy to mount them as a hard drive on a windows machine if I need to, w/out needing MacDrive or somthing. But would it make the iPod overall faster since HFS takes care of defrags, etc? FAT32 isn't that great of a filesystem from what I've heard. EDIT: Although the guy who started this thread comes across as a little inept, this thread at iLounge has some good info. Edited December 1, 2005 by Mashugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sHARD>> Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 HFS+ is newer and more modern, and iPods were still designed with it in mind in the first place. I say, if your using OS X a lot, use HFS+, definetaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddicus Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I have to have mine FAT32 to move stuff to {censored} school computers, I originally had it HFS and it is now significantly slower. I notice it scrubbing through pictures and especially when transferring large files onto it to move. As soon as I can I'm going back to HFS, big speed gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 That's interesting toddicus - thanks for letting us know. Anyone else tried both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaluza Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 An iPod with FAT32 makes a lot of noise when try to access to data. A friend of mine even sent it back to Apple because he thought it was broken! If you want use it mainly like portable HD, format it with FAT32. You can work with it seamless in Windoce , Mac and Linux. But if you want to use all the founcionalities, the iPod is better integrated with Mac, so format it like HFS+, and use it with your Mac. Just download Pod2Go, and you'll see what I'm trying to say... you could not live without it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 So let's say that I wanted to use HFS but still add songs in Windows. Will that be a hassle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabberslasher Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 HFS+ is much better on the iPod if you're only using it with OS X, and mounts instantly in OS X, whereas FAT takes like 20 seconds to mount. HFS is also generally faster (for me), etc, for copying files/music from a Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaiOSX Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 So let's say that I wanted to use HFS but still add songs in Windows. Will that be a hassle? Macdrive is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Yeah, I've used MacDrive, but is it slower/more difficult to add songs via iTunes or any other app? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaiOSX Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 macdrive is an app who handle the HFS(+) and bridge it with Windows. So your iPod will simply appear in your "my computer" folder. Itunes will handle it like if it was Fat32 formated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 1) Black is cool, but because the new iPod is easily scratchable, i'll go for the White. 2) I would say "fat32" (Windows) for the compatibility. All the Operating systems today are able to read "fat32" volumes or storage devices. Even if it's slower than HFS+. Nope ! Because FAT is old and non securized, there is no oveload and it goes faster ;>)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Also, instead of MacDrive, I suppose you could use XPlay . Has anyone used this app? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaiOSX Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Yes you can, this app includes the macdrive engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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