cyclonefr Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Am I the only one feeling this way ? I mean, it's like it's too slow, but even at max speed, it's still weird. I think the acceleration of it is WAY too slow, and thus you gotta move your finger quickly so the mouse "takes off". Pretty disappointed about that Every PC I had didn't have this "problem". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard! Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 What is this trackpad ? I have never heard of it.... Maybe u have not enough ram or stm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soündless Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 ? i never had a problem wit mac mouse pads, only pc ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbz Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Am I the only one feeling this way ? I mean, it's like it's too slow, but even at max speed, it's still weird. I think the acceleration of it is WAY too slow, and thus you gotta move your finger quickly so the mouse "takes off". Pretty disappointed about that Every PC I had didn't have this "problem". It's wierd that your saying that...IMO the trackpads on Apple notebooks are la crème de la crème... that acceleration is so that you can get both precision and speed whenever you want them... but dude if it bothers u increase the tracking speed! You definetly like the two-finger scrolling, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 (edited) Yeah I do, but I don't really give a damn about two finger scrolling or the one in PC's (scrolling with the right + one finger). As I told you before, increasing the speed doesn't increase the acceleration, so I still have to move my finger quickly so the mouse cursor can take off (else it'll move slowly, even with the speed at max..) Got it ? I had the same feeling pluging a USB Intellimouse on a Mac (hackintosh or macbook pro) : the acceleration would be slow as well. Running Windows + Apple mouse drivers would render the same thing Is there any 3rd party soft to change it ? For the other guy : the trackpad is a touchpad or whatever you call it... Edited February 10, 2007 by cyclonefr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I noticed the same.. (I don't have an MBP but I have to support a small fleet of them) I recall back in the day I used a 3rd party trackpad driver with my (laugh) 5300cs. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar exists.. Also I'm very fond of tap-clicking, something it always takes me a few minutes to stop doing when I go from pc to mac.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbic Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Also I'm very fond of tap-clicking, something it always takes me a few minutes to stop doing when I go from pc to mac.. You can tap-click on a MBP. System Preferences --> Keyboard & Mouse --> Trackpad --> check the box for "Clicking" under "Trackpad Gestures". You can set it up so a two-finger tap is a right-click. @ The OP: I think the difference in mouse/trackpad acceleration is different enough between a PC and a Mac that switchers will always have a problem at first. When I first got my MBP, I almost couldn't use an external mouse due to the "muddy" feeling of the weird acceleration. Now I use one all the time. You'll get used to it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 Hopefully. The funny thing is plugging a PS2 mouse on a hackintosh (obviously) would work the same as a PS2/USB Mouse in Windows on any PC. Would feel the same I mean. It seems USB mouses (is the Trackpad USB anyway ?) in MacOS are "slow"... Weird. Finally, is the PS2 controller dead now ? I mean if I buy a new PC and thus a new motherboard, would I still have it ? Too lazy to check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFNITE Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 personally, I feel the trackpad in MacBook Pro's are superior to the ones on normal PC's. I find the trackpad on normal PC laptops way too fast, and difficult to control. In fact, i only have my trackpad settings at four notches above slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted February 11, 2007 Author Share Posted February 11, 2007 blah ! I'm pretty sure it's only a matter of being used to it... But I do LOVE the mouse cursor to be very fast. Anyway, I was one of them who prefered the trackPOINT to the trackpad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFNITE Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 the reason why tracking in Macs is slower is probably due to the larger trackpad area. Fast tracking is designed so you don't need to lift your finger to go from one side of the screen to the next. The size of the trackpad makes it easy to cover the entire screen even at a relatively low acceleration. IMO, the ideal trackpad should be one where if you move your finger a certain distance, a proportional distance will be covered on screen, and I feel the MacBook Pro trackpad implements this quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbic Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Ya know, it's the funniest thing: Seems like on a MBP, the trackpad behavior is affected by the OS it's running under. For example, I love the trackpad movement in Mac OS. But when I boot into Vista, I find it jumpy and nearly uncontrollable due to the acceleration differences. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Fogge Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 ErBiC, you can fix that by installing the touchpad driver and filter. That way, you can have the multi-finger support and smooth movement across the whole pad. Before that, I noticed a really wierd thing where if I move my finger across the pad beneath the "V" key, there was a spot where it would super-accelerate and jump to the side. Many trackpads behave differently. Anything with the Alps Touchpads (Sony, Toshiba, HP/Compaq, Gateway/eMachines) will generally have a very different feel than the Synaptics Touchpads (Apple, IBM/Lenovo, Dell/Alienware, Fujitsu). For the Alps touchpads, to me they feel as if they have no acceleration at all, so that when I put my finger somewhere and move it, I know exactly where it will end up. The Synaptics touchpads generally have the acceleration that varies depending on the amount of pressure (the size of the sensing area) to determine acceleration. Try moving on your touchpad with the tip of your pinky vs. the side of your thumb. Pretty obvious difference on my Macbook Pro. Not the case on my Toshiba P25. By the way, both run Vista at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbic Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 ErBiC, you can fix that by installing the touchpad driver and filter. That way, you can have the multi-finger support and smooth movement across the whole pad. Have you been able to do that under Vista? I was under the impression that the trackpad drivers/filter didn't work under Vista, thus no 2-finger right-click support and erratic movement. Correct me if I'm wrong, I could have missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 it works for Vista but tap isn't working though. Actually I like best ALPS trackpad, but then again, it must be because the acceleration isn't managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbic Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Amazing. I just force-installed the Apple Trackpad Filter driver on one of the HID Mouse entries in Device Manager and now the trackpad actually WORKS worth a damn. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoafi Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Many trackpads behave differently. Anything with the Alps Touchpads (Sony, Toshiba, HP/Compaq, Gateway/eMachines) will generally have a very different feel than the Synaptics Touchpads (Apple, IBM/Lenovo, Dell/Alienware, Fujitsu). Gateways use Synaptics trackpads (that's what I have at least). Yeah, not really a Mac user...just found this thread while trying to find a replacement driver for this MacBook Pro I have to use at work because the trackpad is annoying me (and sidetrack says it's not for MacBook Pros that are this new). Like the OP said, it's too slow (even on the fastest setting) and it doesn't feel like there's much acceleration, which sucks when you consider that Macs require moving all the way to the top left of the screen even when working near the bottom right corner. There's no way to mod the Mac UI so that it doesn't act all NeXTSTEP-ish, is there? I'd like something a bit more GNOME-ish (where the menus stay inside the windows so I don't have to move the mouse/trackpad far at all ever, but the Finder menu stays at the top...preferably with auto-hide for that top Finder menu). Is there any way to do that? I'm kind of guessing the answer's "no" since Macs aren't really about customization and seem to aim more toward uniformity, but it'd be nice...probably also no way to edit it so that instead of needing to use the mouse/trackpad to click something other than default on "save" "don't save" "cancel" popups I can use <tab> like I would on any other UI? Wow, I think that tab v mouse for buttons just added one more to the reason I can't stand using Macs. Wonder if the list'll get longer as I am forced to use this thing or if I'll be assimilated into the borg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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