DeathChill Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Well, this is a short lesson on how to easily install 10.4.3 in VMWare! Step 1: Install 10.4.1 in VMWare on a Virtual HDD at least 8 GB large. Boot up and set everything up as normal. Shut down the Virtual Machine. Step 2: Click Edit Virtual Machine Settings and at the bottom of the window is the add button, select Add and choose Hard Drive. Make the hard drive large enough to fit 10.4.3 (around 5-6 GB is best). Step 3: Create an ISO containing the DMG (Create an ISO that contains the DMG file! Do not convert the DMG to ISO!). I just use the Image Recorder feature in Nero and make a Data DVD. Download Daemon tools and select the ISO you just created as what the virtual drive will have mounted. Set the Virtual Machine to use that drive (in my case E:) as the CD rom drive. Step 4: Boot up the Virtual Machine and Initialize the hard drive. Click open the CD on the desktop and copy over the DMG to your 10.4.1 HDD. Open it up, and navigate to /System/Installation/Packages/ and open up OSInstall.mpkg. EDIT: Step 4 1/2: Copy over the ApplePS2Controller.kext and IOATAFamily.kext to the /System/Library/Extensions folder on your 10.4.3 HDD and repair permissions on the 10.4.3 HDD via your 10.4.1 Disk util. Step 5: Install it onto the second Virtual HDD and once it finishes open up Terminal and type this: sudo bless -folder9 /YOUR 10.4.3 HDD/System -setBoot (e.g. sudo bless -folder9 /DeathChill/System -setBoot) Step 6: Create a new virtual machine, use the custom settings and for the hard drive select to use an existing hard drive. Select the drive with 10.4.3 on it and you're done. Unfortunately VMWare errors upon trying to boot 10.4.3 for some reason, but we believe it is caused by the kernel trying to access something in a way VMWare does not understand. Thanks to Jtle for showing me the original idea and making me get off my butt to try it Also, PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE MY ENTIRE LESSON TO SAY ONE THING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_guru Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Well, this is a short lesson on how to easily install 10.4.3 in VMWare! Step 1: Install 10.4.1 in VMWare on a Virtual HDD at least 8 GB large. Boot up and set everything up as normal. Shut down the Virtual Machine. Step 2: Click Edit Virtual Machine Settings and at the bottom of the window is the add button, select Add and choose Hard Drive. Make the hard drive large enough to fit 10.4.3 (around 5-6 GB is best). Step 3: Create an ISO containing the DMG (Create an ISO that contains the DMG file! Do not convert the DMG to ISO!). I just use the Image Recorder feature in Nero and make a Data DVD. Download Daemon tools and select the ISO you just created as what the virtual drive will have mounted. Set the Virtual Machine to use that drive (in my case E:) as the CD rom drive. Step 4: Boot up the Virtual Machine and Initialize the hard drive. Click open the CD on the desktop and copy over the DMG to your 10.4.1 HDD. Open it up, and navigate to /System/Installation/Packages/ and open up OSInstall.mpkg. Step 5: Install it onto the second Virtual HDD and once it finishes open up Terminal and type this: sudo bless -folder9 /YOUR 10.4.3 HDD/System -setBoot (e.g. sudo bless -folder9 /DeathChill/System -setBoot) Step 6: Create a new virtual machine, use the custom settings and for the hard drive select to use an existing hard drive. Select the drive with 10.4.3 on it and you're done. Unfortunately VMWare errors upon trying to boot 10.4.3 for some reason, but we believe it is caused by the kernel trying to access something in a way VMWare does not understand. Thanks to Jtle for showing me the original idea and making me get off my butt to try it Someone has tried to run 10.4.3 successly ?. I've readed in several files and urls that isn't possible to update over 10.4.2 until present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 ^^lmao, just can't help it.. ^^ I assume you did all the installing to a real partition etc, attempts.. Is there an "sfsg" point to work from, or any suggestions as to what needs looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flibblesan Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Someone has tried to run 10.4.3 successly ?. I've readed in several files and urls that isn't possible to update over 10.4.2 until present. Did you read this: "Also, PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE MY ENTIRE LESSON TO SAY ONE THING." Snip your posts please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uNtouched Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 that had to be a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casab Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Did you read this: "Also, PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE MY ENTIRE LESSON TO SAY ONE THING." Snip your posts please. He added that after pc_guru posted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutty Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 deathchill;might be a stupid question, and i think it might have been answered before - but i assume some more want to know this? is *.4.3 worth installing (i mean the real leak, not the patch) - does it contain a new set of kexts, soundcards, wlan and most important graphics ( fixed nvidia/ati ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_guru Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Did you read this: "Also, PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE MY ENTIRE LESSON TO SAY ONE THING." Snip your posts please. He added that after i posted it. Casab has reason. If that than i did offend him, i apologize, but honestly i can't see the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Fine, now that's cleared up, please stay on topic OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE MY ENTIRE LESSON TO SAY ONE THING. This needs to be a board rule! Thanks for the quick how-to DC. About the error you mentioned. Do you think it is a vmw bios setting? I can't test it for another 6hrs or so. You pretty much are the front runner on this build. Do you have other tips we should watch for? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathChill Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 About the error you mentioned. Do you think it is a vmw bios setting? I can't test it for another 6hrs or so. You pretty much are the front runner on this build. Do you have other tips we should watch for? I'm not sure about the error, I recall someone saying it happened with certain builds of Linux before so I can't say for sure what it is but I'm thinking it's something to do with the kernel but I could be wrong. EDIT: Also, VMWare told me (via an error message) that when trying to boot the DVD it is told by the kernel to reboot the computer (it said a processor reset) so obviously the kernel is rebooting the computer when trying to boot. Still not sure why the installed version errors though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxguru Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 I'm not sure about the error, I recall someone saying it happened with certain builds of Linux before so I can't say for sure what it is but I'm thinking it's something to do with the kernel but I could be wrong. EDIT: Also, VMWare told me (via an error message) that when trying to boot the DVD it is told by the kernel to reboot the computer (it said a processor reset) so obviously the kernel is rebooting the computer when trying to boot. Still not sure why the installed version errors though. In the error message that you showed in a previous post, VMware is erroring out in it's flashram.c module in line 52 i believe (if VMware were open source we could look at the code for that module at the line that it specifies and know what's happening), this is an indication to me that the 10.4.3 Guest OS is trying to access a flash ram device of some sort in the virtual machine, in fact it makes sense to me that this is probably where the kernel is quite possibly looking for a TPM chip at that point and VMware probably doesnt know how to deal with it. If I recall properly, I thought that TPM chips contained flash ram in them. If you search for part of your error in google (I believe i searched for "vmware flashram.c" as the keywords without the quotes), you'll see that this error does effect some linux distributions running as vmware guests, but different VMware builds do not exert this behavior with these same linux distros. Has anyone tried running this in VMware in a Windows (or Linux) host dual-booting on a real devkit? This would show if it is trying to hook any TPM related routines as VMware should be able to virtualize the real TPM chip and pass these routines to it. I think on machines that are lacking the TPM chip (non devkit systems) vmware does not have the real device to virtualize, and the OS see's this and gives up. Or the kernel is trying to write or read something to/from the VMware's CMOS ram and hanging. Have you tried older VMware versions, or other builds of version 5? Something else to look at in VMware would be under its devices menu as well, make sure that all of the enabled guest devices are pointing to valid images, or to the correct corresponding host devices and/or only enable ones that are required. I will play with this after I get the torrent, I've had quite a hand experimenting with VMware and OS's and have kept most of my old vmware builds around as they are useful in situations such as this. Also, Does this happen if you install it natively using the method in your instructions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 @linuxguru, Let me know if you want to compare notes. I think I still have older VMw build on CD. Anyway, I can help test out the old and new dev rls's and post what I find for you. I think i can create another partition to try to install the unpatched installers and try to get info from them also. I just need to find out how with only 1 PC at my disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 The easiest way for me to install 10.4.3 assuming that you have the patched 10.4.1 dvd is to just delete /System/Installation/Packages on the patched dvd and copy the one from 10.4.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Thanks myzar, I'll add that to my to-do list this week. Have you actually done what you wanted? I'm curiouse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Thanks myzar, I'll add that to my to-do list this week. Have you actually done what you wanted? I'm curiouse... i missed one step, after you have 10.4.3 installed you need to copy the 10.4.3 kernel over your installation because the installer would copy the 10.4.1 kernel. about your question , i'm stuck because the 10.4.3 kernel doesn't work under vmware , vmware crashes so the only way would be to try it in native but i'm not sure that i want to screw my working 10.4.1 on the real hd ok i've tried it in native and the same {censored} happens, the kernel just resets the box without any panic so we are royally screwed unless maxxuss or another smart guy figures out wtf is the kernel doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1n6w4r3z Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 i had the same problem with vmware and 10.4.2, so i tried to run it in native mode and nothing changed.... also in native i had a computer reboot after few seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutty Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 seems like my questions gone booboo... any new kexts in this release? like fixed ati/nvidia drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 seems like my questions gone booboo... any new kexts in this release? like fixed ati/nvidia drivers? well none would work without the 10.4.3 kernel so it doesn't matter atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebseb7 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 i missed one step, after you have 10.4.3 installed you need to copy the 10.4.3 kernel over your installation because the installer would copy the 10.4.1 kernel. but does 10.4.3 boot with the 10.4.1 kernel ? Is this a method for getting "userland" 10.4.3 system as the update.tar does, that is floating around for some hours. /sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaS Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 but does 10.4.3 boot with the 10.4.1 kernel ? Is this a method for getting "userland" 10.4.3 system as the update.tar does, that is floating around for some hours. /sebastian I have added the 10.4.1 patched for 10.4.2 kernel and the oah750 88 kb & oah760 2.54 mb to the iso of 10.4.3 and tried to boot it that way.It doesnt stack fault any more...it just reboots with no error at all after the kexts cach is loaded.I also tried deleting the kext cach from the iso and then booting.Same thing happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 I have added the 10.4.1 patched for 10.4.2 kernel and the oah750 88 kb & oah760 2.54 mb to the iso of 10.4.3 and tried to boot it that way.It doesnt stack fault any more...it just reboots with no error at all after the kexts cach is loaded.I also tried deleting the kext cach from the iso and then booting.Same thing happened. yup i've tried the same, with the same result, i suspect the tpm protection has been added in the kernel itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulicat Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Since I am nowhere near having the torrent finish, I was wondering if anyone who has it has tried the old pear pc install -> vmware vmdk method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1n6w4r3z Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 sorry jas what do u mean with I have added the 10.4.1 patched for 10.4.2 kernel and the oah750 88 kb & oah760 2.54 mb to the iso of 10.4.3. which files are u talking about? maybe i've lost a piece of developement u've done while i was studing for some days and i got no time could u pls give me more info? maybe bettere if pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchBomcanhao Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 I'm getting confused... is there a real 10.4.3 x86 dvd around, or is this a patched 10.4.1 version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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