henchman Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Yep, Accordong to Geekbench results, WinXP is fater than OSX. http://www.geekpatrol.ca/forum/discussion/...ference/#Item_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikedude880 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 *coughs* Geekbench runs somewhat faster on similar hardware under Windows than Mac OS X, mostly because Visual C++ is a better compiler than GCC. Plus, since Geekbench is (mostly) a processor and memory benchmark, it doesn't tax the underlying operating system very much. And it's on the same page you quoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marliwahoo Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Well - windows runs geekbench faster than OSX. I'm not sure it says anything more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Someone needs to retitle this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bliss Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 lets define "fast" im thinking of wysiwyg - so if it feels fast it is fast. tiger feels fast. vista not - thats it. probably noone cares if you render an image in 5 hrs 13 min 25 sec or 5hr 13 min 48 sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyboy Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 As much as i dont like to admit it windows xp vista also is faster than osx, But to tell truth overall there the same in general desktop stuff were osx falls on its face is in the 3d game arena but i would put that down to apple {censored} implementation of opengl. Osx Xp Vista there all nice systems pity we could get the best from them all put together lol what a system that would be .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimes80 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 As much as i dont like to admit it windows xp vista also is faster than osx, But to tell truth overall there the same in general desktop stuff were osx falls on its face is in the 3d game arena but i would put that down to apple {censored} implementation of opengl. Osx Xp Vista there all nice systems pity we could get the best from them all put together lol what a system that would be .. It's my understanding that many professional applications (not games) use OpenGL... Is this not the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sHARD>> Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 It's my understanding that many professional applications (not games) use OpenGL... Is this not the case? Any 3D game that runs on a Mac uses OpenGL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Some friends are surprised when I open my PowerBook and start doing something, they ask, how do you did that? I never saw any PC that wakes faster than a Mac, so yes Windows/PCs are faster to crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagal Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 And the point is? YAWN I use OS X not because I thought it was faster than XP but because it runs Logic. And I really like the clown fish desktop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkona Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 i ran geekbench while logged into xp on the same machine here... they are off by a tenth of a percentage, osx was faster, but almost exactly the same.. according to Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFNITE Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 i run Mac OS X because i'm more productive with it (Expose is the greatest productivity tool ever). It's stable, doesn't crash, and feels faster than the sluggish Windows especially since Mac OS X is optimized automatically unlike Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 'WinXP is faster than OS X!' Versus: OS X is more stable than WinXP. OS X is more secure than WinXP. OS X is easier to use than WinXP. OS X is much harder to {censored} up than WinXP. OS X is just damn SEXIER than WinXP. I could go on, but i'll stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merak Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 i stopped using the first computer in my signature the day i got the second one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacOSMatt Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 'WinXP is faster than OS X!' Versus: OS X is more stable than WinXP. OS X is more secure than WinXP. OS X is easier to use than WinXP. OS X is much harder to {censored} up than WinXP. OS X is just damn SEXIER than WinXP. I could go on, but i'll stop. exactly. osx has to do a whole lot more, think a whole lot more, and look a whole lot more sexy =p a body builder (winxp) coud make a house faster. an architect (osx) could make that house a whole lot better. ~ metaphor nearly makes sence "you cant rush art" etc. all pcs are good for doing is running x86 =p and they do that brilliantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 XP is faster? 1)It crunches my HDs for several minutes *after* login before I can do anything at all. 2)It takes ages to shut down. OS X needs only seconds. 3)When I launch an application, again, it crunches my HD badly. OS X on the other hand is always extremely smooth. The above is what I notice. If it is faster, I don't even realize it, and that is what matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest goodtime Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) 'WinXP is faster than OS X!' Versus: OS X is more stable than WinXP. OS X is more secure than WinXP. OS X is easier to use than WinXP. OS X is much harder to {censored} up than WinXP. OS X is just damn SEXIER than WinXP. I could go on, but i'll stop. Here! Here! I agree with Munky on this one. I've ran Windows 2000 and XP for several years as a Barco/Esko Graphics Operator. I've also ran the Mac for many years as a Prepress/ArtPro and came back to the Mac as a Photoshop Color Specialist. I have to say after starting with Macs then using PCs. It was a joy coming back to the Mac to run Photoshop. Mac Apps are so much cooler in OS X than on Windows. Photoshop is sweet! I've tried it in both. The Mac just runs it better and I feel more at home. I love my G5 at work and will love using Mac OS X and all it's nice GUI Apps for a very long time to come! At home I have two Macs and two PCs. None of them use Windows very often. You can probably guess my default OS (it rhymes with seX and she's a 10). gt Edited January 25, 2007 by goodtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimes80 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Any 3D game that runs on a Mac uses OpenGL. I meant professional apps *short of games* on XP... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest goodtime Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) exactly. osx has to do a whole lot more, think a whole lot more, and look a whole lot more sexy =p a body builder (winxp) coud make a house faster. an architect (osx) could make that house a whole lot better. ~ metaphor nearly makes sence "you cant rush art" etc. all pcs are good for doing is running x86 =p and they do that brilliantly PC = good for Excel and Word. Mac = good for creative stuff, iLife, Pro Apps, Family, Music, stuff that matters to living. PC = Work. Mac = Play (Creatively speaking) PC = games that's good and does it well. Mac = Today, the Best PC games now come to the Mac in Mac form. And with Mac OS 10.4.8, more games are getting optimized for Multi-threaded OpenGL. The Mac is getting better at what it does not do well and does everything else better in the Creative realm. Mac can play PC Games too if you really want to torture a Mac for that (Boot Camp). When you come home. Would you rather work or play? I like to play and that's using OS X. Who wants to come home to do an Excel Spreadsheet in Windows? I don't. I'd rather make something fun and have fun doing it too. That's always going to be Mac for me. After this Hackintosh kick is over. I'll be buying a Mac for my next PC. I've owned over a dozen Macs. I've built one PC and have one PC Laptop and still have two Macs left. In the future, I plan on going all Mac again after my Hacks become bricks. gt Edited January 25, 2007 by goodtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezhoon Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 OS X is just damn SEXIER than WinXP. Yeah!! baby..bring it on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
consolation Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 i would put that down to apple {censored} implementation of opengl. It's not the openGL implementation that's the problem. The apple versions of games are usually ported by 3rd party companies that lack the resources poured into the PC version. Hence the software is much less optimised for the platform. Aspyr's fiasco with the releas of Civ IV being a prime example. Additionally they usually fail to take advantage of the strengths of Apple HW, such as MP support etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np_ Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 It's not the openGL implementation that's the problem. The apple versions of games are usually ported by 3rd party companies that lack the resources poured into the PC version. Hence the software is much less optimised for the platform. Aspyr's fiasco with the releas of Civ IV being a prime example. Additionally they usually fail to take advantage of the strengths of Apple HW, such as MP support etc... is exactly OpenGL under XP use GL drivers directly from video manufacturer - ATI, NVIDIA ..etc and they are very complete ( winner is off course nvidia with %100 hw support in them drivers ) apple drivers for GL with luck cover %30 of hardware support in any video card, that for any game will ran much faster on xp that osx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 and if os x would be 10% slower than xp, i would not MIND! because using xp is slowing me down 50%! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaar Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) Xp IS faster than OSX Perhaps for a while. If I'm not mistaken the test was made 'on fresh installs, nothing else installed'. Work on both systems a few months and do the test again after heavy use, ie. lots of installs, uninstalls, creating and deleting data etc, and without any time-consuming tuning.... Windows just clogs up with all sorts of filth (and I'm not even referring to viruses, malware etc). It literally degrades and bends out of shape over relatively short periods of time, one of the major reasons I never looked back when I switched to Linux and now even less with OSX. The other question - actually asked already - XP is faster in doing what exactly?? Edited January 25, 2007 by solaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilhood Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) XP only bends and goes all fiddly slow craptastic because XP requires maintanance every now and then. If you have a RyanVM slipstreamed XP SP2 Install Disc, you will have no problems. My XP machines are always perfectly fast. The Mac runs extremely fast as well, but the only real noticeable difference between the two OS' is the graphics driver performance in games. XP's graphics drivers are just miles ahead in-terms of speed, and I've done my own internal benchmarking tests to confirm this. In most cases there is a difference as much as 70%, confirming what np_ said above. I make sure all Windows Updates are done, drivers are up-to date, BIOS is up-to date, Kaspersky Anti-Virus 6 installed, using CCleaner ({censored} Cleaner) for clearing Temp files and the Registry, abandoned use of IE7, using Opera instead, defragging hard-disks every two months with O&O Defrag. Also, a lot of the problem stems from out-of date motherboard drivers, because most people would just plop in their disc from yonks ago and find out that it causes issues. Bundled PC software is always a nightmare, try to avoid it at all cost! Make sure you get the latest versions of all drivers, specifically from the motherboard manufacturers site. Windows Vista does not have this problem however, which is pretty great. People that complain about XP degrading over time simply do not know how to properly look after it. The Mac OS X is a much easier OS to look after though, and so is Vista. Edited January 25, 2007 by devilhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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