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Hey,

 

I want to use 7 drives on my ASUS X Hero MB.
The MB supports up to 6 SATA drives, and also has 2 M.2 slots, so I thought it was possible to run at least 7 drives.
Apparently, it isn´t that easy.

 

I have a Samsung 850 EVO MZ-N5E500BW M.2 drive that I use as boot drive.
It´s a SATA drive, and from what I can read, using a SATA drive in the M.2 slot will either disable one or two of the other SATA slots, depending on which type of M.2 setup you choose.
So now I can only use a total of SIX slots in the machine for storage, which is a huge bummer, since I need the extra SSD drive.
 
I can of course connect the extra SSD drive via an adapter and use an external USB port, but that´s a very impractical solution.
 
QUESTION:
Can anyone tell me if it´s possible to somehow connect 7 drives to my ASUS X Hero MB?
(Buying a new PCIE M.2 drive is not an option, since the M.2 drive I have is the boot drive, and I don´t wanna F around with cloning, replacing etc)
 
Thanks in advance! :)
 


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Hi, 

 

Not sure if I can help with this. But maybe I can give some insight to something. 

 

Could it be that your board just got an AHCI limitation? In this case, I'd suggest you not using AHCI and maybe NVMe. Now I am not sure if your board supports NVMe. Some people even mod their UEFI to get NVMe support. Now since one drive will use NVMe in this case, and the other six drives will use AHCI, you might not get into this problem, and you will be able to have 7 drives. The only down side is, you would have to get NVMe m.2 drive. 

 

Another solution could be that you get a mass storage PCIe card. Well a RAID card that works with MacOS. But you might not need RAID. In this case, you don't use the RAID function the PCIe RAID card gives. You can get inexpensive RAID cards, such as HighPoint Rocket Raid RR2720SGL. You can hook up SATA drives with it with SATA connectors. If you only got m.2 to connect, it must be SATA bu with an enclosure having SATA connector (not sure if those enclosures exists). There is a downside to this as well, the RAID card will show its own bios signs before booting, just like the motherboard does, this will of course make the booting experience a bit downgraded taking a few seconds more. If this isn't a problem, then this might be something you might want to consider. The RR2720SGL is quite inexpensive, last I checked it was about 160 USD. It got two SAS connectors, and can run 8 drives. All you need with it is mini SAS to 4x SATA 3 cable, either one or two of them, depending on how many you want to connect. Assuming you won't connect many, if this solution is for you. 

 

**Edit**

 

The RR2720SGL works out of the box for Mac OS X / MacOS. However, I have only used it to macOS Sierra 10.12. I don't use it anymore, and therefore don't know if this will work for High Sierra, but I am assuming it will.

 

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Edited by Dwarfy, 19 January 2018 - 03:24 PM.


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Thanks a lot, @Dwarfy for taking time to reply :)

Yeah, I know I could probably get some other storage device, but the thing is; I already HAVE a 500GB Samsung SSD that I want to use instead of paying $$$ for another one ;)

 

I´ll check the AHCI limitation you mention, and see if I can somehow do something about my MB´s NVMe/SATA support. May be the only way to do it, since I don´t see any other options to connect the SSD internally.

Thanks again! :)



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Hyeya,

 

Sounds good. 

 

I can understand that at this point you don't want to spend more money on SSDs and / or a RAID card. 

But if there is a limitation for AHCI, and it cannot be changed, then you most likely would have to get a drive with NVMe support. 

And if that isn't a solution, then a Mass Storage controller card, such as a RAID card (without using RAID). However, I am hoping that. you can some how work around the limitation. Possibly hoping that there is no limitation, and ASUS made that board run as many drives thrown at it. Hoping as many connectors for drives as many drives can be hooked up and utilised. Though not to sound rude, but I already find it a bit pointless that a non NVMe SSD is in m.2 slot. Assuming ASUS most likely thought the user of the board would utilise the m.2 slots with NVMe SSD. 

 

Not sure if UEFI modding will help in this case either. Hopefully there isn't any limitation, and just something you need to enable in UEFI to run seven drives.

 

As of now this is all I could think of. I am open to get lectured, lol. And if someone wants to amend into any of what I have said , then feel happy to do so. 

 

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Thanks again :)

I´m doing some research to find some hack/solution for this, so far I haven´t found anything.
I´m thinking there must be some BIOS setting or similar that can circumvent the disabling of SATA slot #1 when using M.2, but perhaps it´s a physical limitation.

Not sure about your suggestion re NVMe in the M.2 slot. I just plugged in a "regular" M.2. SSD and it seems to work fine, but you may be right :)



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Hyeya,

 

I might be right, but I am not sure. 

 

The reason I mentioned about NVMe capable drive for m.2 to be used, is because if there possibly is a limitation for AHCI, then it won't affect your setup of drives, as one is with NVMe. 

 

Your motherboard is a high-end gaming motherboard, not that only gamers buy and utilise it, but most people buying such motherboard opt to get NVMe SSDs. Now, it isn't because of NVMe that NVMe drives are faster, NVMe is just a standard, a communication protocol SSDs got. The manufacturers just got more focus on this standard. And these drivers don't necessarily need to use AHCI, well there is no need for a NVMe drive to be used as an AHCI drive. 

 

Since your board is fairly new, and supports NVMe, most people would most likely utilise the m.2 slots for NVMe drives. And what I was saying earlier in my other post, I'd believe ASUS would think people would opt for NVMe. drives in those m.2 slots. If that is done, it could be that you get seven drives running, as you are not crossing any AHCI limitation s. But I could be wrong. 

 

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Thanks again, Dwarfy!

I´ve signed up for the ASUS Rog board, so I´ll ask them if they have a solution :)



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As seen on the manufacturers product page....

 

 

 

*2 When the M.2_1 socket is operating in SATA mode, SATA port 1 will be disabled.
 
*3 When the M.2_2 socket is operating in PCIEX4 mode, SATA port 5. 6 will be disabled.


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@AppleIIGuy

Yup, thanks - I know :)
I´m trying to find a work-around if one exists :)








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