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Good to know I will order that as well from EK as well as the waterblocks for the Dual AMD Vega cards that I ordered as well. This will be just like what I did with the SR-2 setup. I waterblocked everything... including the motherboard.

 

I just asked the guys at EKWB if I'm going to need the Double or Triple Terminal Bridge for linking the two AMD Vega cards together. I usually get the Triple Bridge, because I usually have to skip a PCI-E slot, but just want to be sure.

 

There's a difference between the Aorus 7 and Aorus 9 for PCIE slots. I got confused (I'm nearly 60) but it would pay to check that. I think the Aorus 7 is better for 3 GPU.

Don't know about the Asus.



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I don't want three and don't need it as two is waaaay more than enough for my needs. It'll be overkill anyway. Cool thing is that with both cards combined I'm looking at 32 GB of video graphics and for my 3 x 28" 4K monitors that's enough. Even one card is good enough. Can't believe I spent $430 for each monitor (14 months ago) and went into Costco yesterday and saw a 28" 4K monitor for $300. But my monitors are gaming monitors. I don't really need gaming monitors but it will be nice to have Windows 7 up and running for my games. Mmmmm... haven't played GTA V in a while...



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Unless I'm mistaken the AORUS 7 and AORUS 9's PCIe slots are identical. The board as a whole is identical with some extra stuff added for the AORUS 9.

 

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Unless I'm mistaken the AORUS 7 and AORUS 9's PCIe slots are identical. The board as a whole is identical with some extra stuff added for the AORUS 9.

 

attachicon.gifGigabyte X299 AORUS Gaming 7.jpg

 

attachicon.gifGigabyte X299 AORUS Gaming 9.jpg


If I ever get the time, I'd like to get MacMod of the Month kickin' again. We'll see what happens in the near future...

 

Oh, the difference is that IF you have 3 GPU, the gaming 9 works in 16x, 8x, 16x. The gaming 7 works in 16x, 16x, 8x.

With 2 GPU they will both always work 16x.

I think because the gaming 9 has that extra M.2 between slots 1 and 2. the gaming 9 also comes with a matchy PCIE M.2 card giving you 4 M.2 in total.

My VRM/CPU cooler is shipping next week, I'll take a pic once it's on :)



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I'm ordering one as well but need to find out what kind of Terminal bridge I need before I order everything and EK has yet to respond to my questions. So I'm still waiting...



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I figured out on my own what Terminal bridge I needed. Too bad that EK never got back to me with my simple questions, as I emailed them three times in two days. They must be overwhelmed as they've never done that before. Doesn't matter. I ordered:

 

2 x AMD Vega Waterblocks

1 x Monoblock for the AORUS 9 board

1 x Dual bridge for the GPUs (off of eBay - Great Deal too as there was only one!)



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Sorry to highjack a little bit the thread...

 

Congrats for the build mates, my question is for PunkNugget... I have a similar rig to yours, and I'm one that has been working with Andrew to get everything running on this motherboards/cpu combos (X9DAi and Sandy/Ivy CPUs).

 

Are you running already High Sierra on your rig ? If yes I'm curious because I got HS running on it, but having trouble with Power Management and some lagginess with the system, when under Sierra it is running Flawless. I can also confirm that Vega runs out of the box!

 

Thanks for any insight ;)



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Sorry to highjack a little bit the thread...
 
Congrats for the build mates, my question is for PunkNugget... I have a similar rig to yours, and I'm one that has been working with Andrew to get everything running on this motherboards/cpu combos (X9DAi and Sandy/Ivy CPUs).
 
Are you running already High Sierra on your rig ? If yes I'm curious because I got HS running on it, but having trouble with Power Management and some lagginess with the system, when under Sierra it is running Flawless. I can also confirm that Vega runs out of the box!
 
Thanks for any insight ;)

Why don't you post this question on my build right here (link below):
 
http://www.insanelym...fastest-system/
 

as this is about the system you and I built and does not really pertain to surfinchina's build. I just posted your quote on that link, I'll let you know what I can there. Thanks...



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You are absolutely right! didn't thought about it...

 

Sorry for the "interruption" ;)

 

I will be watching this thread since I'm planning on building a similar rig too.



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I figured out on my own what Terminal bridge I needed. Too bad that EK never got back to me with my simple questions, as I emailed them three times in two days. They must be overwhelmed as they've never done that before. Doesn't matter. I ordered:

 

2 x AMD Vega Waterblocks

1 x Monoblock for the AORUS 9 board

1 x Dual bridge for the GPUs (off of eBay - Great Deal too as there was only one!)

 

Hi punk,

After getting a waterblock for my Vega and finding it runs at 42deg full noise, thinking this is good for overclock :) , I find out that there's a hardware security chip that prevents you putting in a mod bios!

Which is not great for hackintosh because at least in windows you can overclock GPU with software. No such luck with Apple platforms.

So the only thing good about the waterblock is that the rig is even quieter, and nicer looking of course.

So, when you get to ordering your vegas, try to find an rx one that doesn't have this block.

The miners should eventually find a way around it, but possibly not...

 

My mobo monoblock got shipped from EK today :)



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Hi, First off big thanks to Surfchina... I finally got a boot using your EFI. Thanks!

 

I dont seem to be getting anywhere near the Geekbench scores you are getting... see attached.

 

I haven't done any overlocking... is that it? or is there something else that might not be working?

 

any help whelp or point in the right direction would be very much appreciate! ;)

 

x299 Gigabyte UD4

i9-7900x

gtx780ti

 

P.S. I know nothing about xcpm

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Update: I changed frequecyVectors to MacBook Pro as suggested in the first post of the other thread. and it has improved a bit.

 

not sure what I should look at next. :(

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Hi punk,
After getting a waterblock for my Vega and finding it runs at 42deg full noise, thinking this is good for overclock :) , I find out that there's a hardware security chip that prevents you putting in a mod bios!
Which is not great for hackintosh because at least in windows you can overclock GPU with software. No such luck with Apple platforms.
So the only thing good about the waterblock is that the rig is even quieter, and nicer looking of course.
So, when you get to ordering your vegas, try to find an rx one that doesn't have this block.
The miners should eventually find a way around it, but possibly not...

My mobo monoblock got shipped from EK today :)

Well, I'm not looking to overclock my GPUs. I never do that I buy them preset as they are and I leave them alone the only thing that I overclock or under clock is the CPU and sometimes the ram but even with the ram I usually leave it alone and let it run at it's programmed speed (in the one that I purchased it's 3600 MHz) and it's fine enough for me. It looks like everything got shipped as well from EKWB yesterday so I should be receiving it Monday or Tuesday of next week. By the way I always make sure to water block my GPUs and the reason why is because it extends the life of the card and keeps everything quieter and much cooler. I've been doing that for years.

Update: I changed frequecyVectors to MacBook Pro as suggested in the first post of the other thread. and it has improved a bit.

not sure what I should look at next. :(

Well to address your issue, you have to remember (and this is something that is hard for me to remember as well because I just now bought a 1080 Ti GPU and was going to buy another one to run two of them,) but until I saw what surfinchina was doing and the kind of scores he's reaching. The reason why he's reaching those scores is because, simply put, it's Apple-based driven. What do I mean by that? Apple's Mac OS X software was programmed to to work natively with Intel CPUs and AMD GPUs and it's showing itself to be true. You're using Nvidia GPU (and an old GPU at that). They used to work really great back in the day five years ago, But that's no longer the case because that's not where Apple wanted to go. They have a different strategy and as stupid as I thought that strategy was five years ago, it looks like it's now turning out to be a big benefit with these new AMD Vega RX cards that they just came out with. As you can see the end result with surfinchina's GB scores. Now it seems like I'm probably going to have to sell those New Nvidia cards on eBay. Hope this information helps you out because it seems like with your experience you're proving the point. I was actually going to run to Titan X (Maxwell)12 GB GPUs to compare scores to see how both of them work. I still might do that, but I can tell already I'm probably not going get the same scores and the same kind of performance that I'm needing using my Adobe and other like kind graphics programs. Again I hope this information helps.

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Vega is the way to go now... and the combination of two of them + metal 2 + optimized software is going to be awesome. The path is getting clearer now... and when you see that with a low end AMD card you can now edit 4K+ footage without a hitch on FCPX, compared to that Premiere CC is drag... even with top cards like the 1080Ti.



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I guess the Nvidia thing could be part of the problem... but I think my Geekbench scores are WAY off for multicore. the lower ones on GB are around 30000... most seem to be around 38000... most seem to be like 6 or 7 times the single core speeds... so im just wondering is there something ive missed.

 

Im using thePMDrvr.kext. etc. but i havnt done any custom SSDT as i cant get the app to work due to unsupported CPU.

 

Not sure what to look at next.



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I had a good chance to talk with one of these programmers that said that for now high sierra Beta is working, but what if Apple gets smart and decides to change things to make things not work for the current X299/7900X set up? Something that I did not consider. I am committed to it now so hopefully that will not happen. What are your thoughts surfinchina?

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Apple's Mac OS X software was programmed to to work natively with Intel CPUs and AMD GPUs and it's showing itself to be true. You're using Nvidia GPU (and an old GPU at that)..

Aren't Geekbench scores CPU and memory only so the GPU should make any difference?

Regardless of what GPU should I not be able to get same score as Surfchina if I had the same cooling and settings etc.?

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Aren't Geekbench scores CPU and memory only so the GPU should make any difference?

Regardless of what GPU should I not be able to get same score as Surfchina if I had the same cooling and settings etc.?

 

Right, this one first :P

I'm pretty sure it's your bios. I got similar scores when I changed some things in there to settings that a certain other person has posted on another site. Which is a lesson that we should never take anything seriously over there haha.

In advanced frequency settings, advanced CPU core settings you will have this:

 

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Don't worry about the package TDP limit, that's just for overclocking so leave it on auto.

note turbo boost is set to legacy. Apple doesn't support native yet.

note energy efficient turbo off, EIST off, the rest is auto or enabled.

 

You don't need any kexts or patches for xcpm, in fact they hurt, not help. PMDriver doesn't hurt but it gives me a 8 speedsteps instead of 6, so it's not that important.

 

Here is a kext to enable audio attached:

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Right, this one first :P
I'm pretty sure it's your bios. I got similar scores when I changed some things in there to settings that a certain other person has posted on another site. Which is a lesson that we should never take anything seriously over there haha.
In advanced frequency settings, advanced CPU core settings you will have this:

20170826_083822.jpg

Don't worry about the package TDP limit, that's just for overclocking so leave it on auto.
note turbo boost is set to legacy. Apple doesn't support native yet.
note energy efficient turbo off, EIST off, the rest is auto or enabled.

You don't need any kexts or patches for xcpm, in fact they hurt, not help. PMDriver doesn't hurt but it gives me a 8 speedsteps instead of 6, so it's not that important.

Here is a kext to enable audio attached:


Awesome thanks... yeah I did use the bios settings from some person on some other site. ;) I will give this a go.

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I had a good chance to talk with one of these programmers that said that for now high sierra Beta is working, but what if Apple gets smart and decides to change things to make things not work for the current X299/7900X set up? Something that I did not consider. I am committed to it now so hopefully that will not happen. What are your thoughts surfinchina?

 

I don't exactly know what Apple are thinking, but these rumours float around constantly. Some people prefer to look on the gloomy side and look for worst case scenarios. This is not me.

The hackintosh community is way small and completely unimportant to Apple. They barely know we exist.

I'm pretty sure nobody has found any code to support these rumours.

 

Good about your GPUs :) I saw a 2 x Vega throw up 40,000 on geekbench.

I've reverted to SMBIOS 18 something, my scores have dropped 20% on GPU from my experimental 19,1 SMBIOS, so I predict the hacks will just get better as we get to the release of the new Mac Pro.


Awesome thanks... yeah I did use the bios settings from some person on some other site. ;) I will give this a go.

Also try this bit of software, it shows you your speedsteps.

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