Can't boot Windows Partition from Clover GUI (since UEFI board)

[todesto]

I didn't have problem booting Windows when with Bios Board.

 

I got UEFI board and when assembled and transferred HDD from older board and I was able to boot Windows but it would take forever to get to Clover GUI after numerous reboots, and after adjusting setting in bios and installing UEFI clover installation, I can't boot Windows anymore.

 

I have installed Windows in MBR partitioned HDD (on separate HDD).

 

I tried PBR, PBRtest, Legacybiosdefault, but none of them work. I even tried Boot7 that I was using to boot windows before, but when it gets to showing Boot7, it will reboot right away.

 

any idea?

 

Please help, thanks.

 

Just don't want to go thru reinstalling Windows.

[aww]

Depend on Your windows version, 7 8 or 8.1

If you install OS X  on the same drive.  you  may have overwrote efi  partition of windows 8.1 

or,  changed the master boot sector.

 

Win 7,8 and 8.1 dvd,  can be used to boot your pc,  and there is an option to repair installation.

 

Try that.

[todesto]

I have Windows 7 installed in second partition and furst partition has Moutain Lion installed. that HDD is MBR partitioned. i didn't touch any boot sectors and i can boot mountain lion but not Windows from clover.

clover sees the Windows HD and shows as boot Legacy but it will reboot when selected.

[aww]

If you are 10.8,  no need to use clover.

Diff  versions of clover, behave different way.

 

What version of Clover , are you using.

 

Do boot with window 7 dvd, use repair option.

it do no harm, if nothing  is wrong.

[ameris_cyning]

This mobo happens to have a new processor, right?

 

If so the only way to salvage the situation is to put it back in its original computer, boot up to Windows, open Device Manager, expand Processors, right click and uninstall all entries. Shut down immediately and bring your hard drive back to your new system

[aww]

Windows os, is no good to move around too much.

Each  hardware component change will be counted.

To much change, it will disable your activation period.

So,  think twice, before move it again.

If your pc is now in UEFI mode.

That means, EFI partition was created.

Win7 is also UEFI capable,

if Win7 see EFI, it expect its installation is in EFI.  (boot file are difference)

If your win7 was installed in MBR (non UEFI),   OS X  cannot be installed in EFI setting.

 

Clover problem,  once installed in EFI setting, you can not get rid of it.

 

Google dos command for delete EFI partition.  (manually delete EFI partition) 

Reinstall Clover in MBR setting.

 

BIOS:  CSM mode enable,  secure boot disable.

[todesto]

Windows os, is no good to move around too much.

Each  hardware component change will be counted.

To much change, it will disable your activation period.

So,  think twice, before move it again.

If your pc is now in UEFI mode.

That means, EFI partition was created.

Win7 is also UEFI capable,

if Win7 see EFI, it expect its installation is in EFI.  (boot file are difference)

If your win7 was installed in MBR (non UEFI),   OS X  cannot be installed in EFI setting.

 

Clover problem,  once installed in EFI setting, you can not get rid of it.

 

Google dos command for delete EFI partition.  (manually delete EFI partition) 

Reinstall Clover in MBR setting.

 

BIOS:  CSM mode enable,  secure boot disable.

As I am using UEFI board, EFI is created automatically even in MBR partitioned HDD?

 

 

This mobo happens to have a new processor, right?

No, it's same processor. just changed the mobo from Z68 to Z77. same processor. i5-2500k. 

I was able to boot to Windows when first assembled.

 

If you are 10.8,  no need to use clover.

Diff  versions of clover, behave different way.

 

What version of Clover , are you using.

 

Do boot with window 7 dvd, use repair option.

it do no harm, if nothing  is wrong.

 

I am using clover 3000 but pretty much keeping same config.plist on boot.  do you think booting with windows disc and repairing will fix this?

 

Here is how I have my HDD setup.

 

80 GB SSD + 1TB HDD = Fusion drive (not boot loader installed here)

200GB HDD (MBR) -> 100GB for Mac HD (10.8 installed) + 100GB for Windows 7  <- I have installed clover in Mac HD and booting off this.

2TB HDD for time machine

[todesto]

So much fail in this topic, problem is with your firmware handoff of legacy boot, this is a pretty common bug and there doesn't really appear to be a work around, the only solution is to convert your disk from mbr to gpt, add a uefi partition, and convert your windows to uefi. It's definitey possible to do without losing anything or reinstalling but I would just reinstall in GPT anyway.

 Thank you.

 

Can you give me a link where I can learn and convert my HDD w/o reinstall?

[aww]

there are  hundreds , if not thousands of people, triple boot linux, OS X and windows ON UEFI pc, using MBR partition.

One need to do a a lot of test.

 

 

google convert Windows 7 to UEFI ,   first comes up

 

 

 

How to convert Windows 7 on MBR/BIOS to GPT/UEFI

Posted on October 12, 2013 by Charlie Hayes

UPDATES:

A commenter, Barton, suggests replacing step 1 through 6 with a GNU/Linux tool that converts to GPT automatically. This would save a lot of time if you’re comfortable using GNU/Linux. I would still recommend making a backup in case things go horribly wrong. I haven’t tried this yet.

1. Boot a copy of http://partedmagic.com/
2. Open a terminal
3. Execute sudo parted -l to list available disks
4. Execute sudo gdisk /dev/sda (where sda is the disk you want to convert) then press w to write the changes

 

- See more at: http://www.mpspartners.com/2013/10/how-to-convert-windows-7-on-mbrbios-to-gptuefi/#sthash.lPcSwZ0R.dpuf

[aww]

if your data is very important to you,  conversion is very dangerous. (DO backup first)

 

safe way way is still,  use dos command to delete clover's EFI partition.

reinstall  clover in MBR setting.

Your pc must be in legacy mode.  (i.e. secure boot disable,  compatibility always)

per

apianti

 

reinstall window os in UEFI mode.

 

- rufus is tool to use convert windows 7 iso to UEFI USB installer.  ( use the UEFI USB to reinstall Window 7) 

[n2nn2n]

I just updated to Yosemite and Clover with second drive being an existing Windows7 install that's non-UEFI. 

 

I got my boot to work using the Clover Boot setting > LegacyBiosDefault

with LegacyBiosDefaultEntry= 2

[todesto]

I just updated to Yosemite and Clover with second drive being an existing Windows7 install that's non-UEFI. 

 

I got my boot to work using the Clover Boot setting > LegacyBiosDefault

with LegacyBiosDefaultEntry= 2

Thank you. I was preparing to converting MBR to GPT but I will let you know if this works. 

[todesto]

It still doesn't boot. 

[aww]

You can either in UEFI mode or  LEGACY MODE.

 

As long as you have Clover in UEFI mode (EFI partition was created),  your windows partition will not boot.

If You switch you pc bios to back to legacy mode,  you will  not  able to OS X that was install in UEFI setting.

 

SO Choose,  PC bios mode.

 

If you do not want to reinstall OS X. ( that was installed IN UEFI mode),  only solution is to reinstall Windows 7 in UEFI mode.

Window 7 dvd, will install itself in LEGACY.

 

To install windows 7 in UEFI  mode,   there  are two options:

 

A. goto Microsoft site,  download  their tool to  convert your DVD to UEFI install disk. (require your serial number for activation)

B. use Rufus. 

 

 

Legacy Win7 boot file is not the same as UEFI window 7.  (absolutely, no way, you can boot win7 in PC-UEFI mode).

 

[capitanbelico]

I have windows 8.1 64bits and yosemite 10.10.1 installed with clover and chimera.

so, when i try to boot windows in UEFI mode it doesn't boot getting an error.

then I get in setup BIOS and choose UEFI and Legacy, then select legacy hd windows installed and works perfectly, but not when i am in UEFI only. 

[RN95]

Hi Todesto,

 

I went through exactly the same issues when I changed Motherboards and started using a UEFI Bios - it is the future and there is no escaping that.

 

I installed Yosemite on a brand new HDD with GPT format. Note that when you do that disconnect any other drives.

I then got Yosemite working with Clover.

 

Finally I thought I was sailing through it but when I connected My Windows (with ML and Mavericks on it), problems started emerging.

 

I spent so much tome trying to find a work around that I bit the bullet and decided to reformat the Windows Drive to GPT and re-install Windows in UEFI mode (Win 7).

 

Again, to do this:

 

1- Disconnect all drives

2- Set BIOS to UEFI only

3- Install Windows in UEFI Mode

4- Note Here: You must have a Windows installation USB GPT formatted. That way Windows will install in UEFI Mode and format the HDD to GPT and Create the Windows EFI partition on the Windows drive.

 

This is the general approach but please search for the Guides which are widely available. You will find that it is worth the time investment when you consider the time you will be wasting trying to find a work around.

 

Regards

[aww]

Windows 8 and 8.1  install dvd is   UEFI ready.

Windows 7 is NOT.

How  to find out, 

F12, see DVD appear twice on the list.  (One with UEFI prefix, other entry has no UEFI prefix).

 

Setting on UEFI for different PC, behave in different ways. 

 

One should try to install windows xp, vista, win7, win8 and win8.1 on the UEFI PC to know the difference.

Mr  todesto,  problem can be fixed in 15 minutes. (if one has installed OS X amy times before)

 

the steps should be:

1. boot up with dos,  and delete CLOVER's EFI partition. (5-10 Minutes)

2. Reinstall Clover in MBR setting. (5-10 minutes)

that is it.

[todesto]

Hi Todesto,

 

I went through exactly the same issues when I changed Motherboards and started using a UEFI Bios - it is the future and there is no escaping that.

 

I installed Yosemite on a brand new HDD with GPT format. Note that when you do that disconnect any other drives.

I then got Yosemite working with Clover.

 

Finally I thought I was sailing through it but when I connected My Windows (with ML and Mavericks on it), problems started emerging.

 

I spent so much tome trying to find a work around that I bit the bullet and decided to reformat the Windows Drive to GPT and re-install Windows in UEFI mode (Win 7).

 

Again, to do this:

 

1- Disconnect all drives

2- Set BIOS to UEFI only

3- Install Windows in UEFI Mode

4- Note Here: You must have a Windows installation USB GPT formatted. That way Windows will install in UEFI Mode and format the HDD to GPT and Create the Windows EFI partition on the Windows drive.

 

This is the general approach but please search for the Guides which are widely available. You will find that it is worth the time investment when you consider the time you will be wasting trying to find a work around.

 

Regards

 I am thinking about reinstalling the whole thing........ 

 

 

Windows 8 and 8.1  install dvd is   UEFI ready.

Windows 7 is NOT.

How  to find out, 

F12, see DVD appear twice on the list.  (One with UEFI prefix, other entry has no UEFI prefix).

 

Setting on UEFI for different PC, behave in different ways. 

 

One should try to install windows xp, vista, win7, win8 and win8.1 on the UEFI PC to know the difference.

Mr  todesto,  problem can be fixed in 15 minutes. (if one has installed OS X amy times before)

 

the steps should be:

1. boot up with dos,  and delete CLOVER's EFI partition. (5-10 Minutes)

2. Reinstall Clover in MBR setting. (5-10 minutes)

that is it.

Where is Clover EFI partition? My HD that has windows is MBR partition.

[aww]

OSx GOTO CONSOLE DISKUTIL LIST

/dev/disk0

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *640.1 GB   disk0

   1:               Windows_NTFS WIN7ULT                 160.0 GB   disk0s1

   2:               Windows_NTFS zCrypt160G              160.2 GB   disk0s2

   3:                  Apple_HFS GW-HD                   278.4 GB   disk0s3

   4:               Windows_NTFS zCrypt40G               41.6 GB    disk0s5

/dev/disk1

   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *1.0 TB     disk1

   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

   2:                  Apple_HFS YosemiteRel1            500.1 GB   disk1s2

   3:       Microsoft Basic Data UNTITLED 2              499.8 GB   disk1s3

 

THIS IS THE PARTITION TABLE,  WILL NOT SEE THIS ON DISK MANAGER OR WINDOWS ADMN TOOLS

 

DOS EQUIVALENT IS DISKPART

 

GOOGLE WINDOW DELETE EFI PARTITION

YOU WILL GET ALL THE INFO YOU NEED.

you have  already converted  to GPT,  you hard drive is no longer MBR.

 

Windows 7, 8, 8.1  dvds 

all have an option call  REPAIR INSTALLATION.

this is not reinstall,

it examine boot sector and settings, if it detect fixable error,

it will attempt to restore the boot sector settings,

if it cannot be fixed, it will say so.

 

So try boot up windows 7 dvd, try to fix boot records and setting.

It should do no harm, if it failed in repairing. (because it is already bad.)

 

if you do not see EFI parttion from distutil or diskpart, (proceed with the above)

[aww]

do you really know your clover setting and pc setting was???

 

if you are in MBR setting HARD drive, you cannot be in UEFI mode,

 

To verify it.  F12 see the boot list,

if you are in uefi mode,   your boot drive must be prefixed with UEFI,

do you boot drive has prefix UEFI ??

[aww]

one more thing,

if you win7 was  installed in guid,  you see two windows drives on loader screen.

boot with system partition, not the window main drive.

if your win7 was installed in mbr,  you will see only one  window boot drive on boot screen.

so how many boot drive of window7 appear on loader's boot screen?

[todesto]

no matter what I tried, windows would not boot. If I boot clover installed legacy mode, it will just reboot. when I somehow get clover GUI to show windows, it will just hang after _

 

I am going to just format the HDD and reinstall..... 

 

It's so weird I was able to boot to windows when first assembled.

[aww]

First,  your boot drive?   UEFI prefixed

Second how many window7 icons you see on Clover's boot Screen.

 

There are NO point to continue, if you really do not know what mode of PC is  IN.

 

List your bios settings for Legacy Mode. and secure boot setting.

[todesto]

secure setting is other OS. I use UEFI: (usb stick I am booting with)  I have tried to boot with USB stick in legacy clover installed, or UEFI board only installed (<- I choose UEFI: when selecting but none works. I see two legacy HD icons.

[aww]

FIRST,  what do you really want.

1. Operate  your PC in Total UEFI  mode

2. Operate  your PC  in  total LegacyMode.

there are no other option (unless you want to change bios setting every boot.

 

the following info is needed,  before continue ( for those want to help, can download your motherboard manual and see hardware specs)

1.  Motherboard model

2.  Loader Versions

3.  Kexts in Extra/Extensions,  or clover's 10.10 folder.

Last,  are you restart installation from start. (no windows, no OS X)

how may hard drives, you can use. (i assume large 100G)

Winows 7 dvd, is UEFI ready or have to be converted.

USE F12 boot list to find out.

WINDOWS 7 dvd, if UEFI ready, will have 2  entries.

When Boot with UEFI prefixed Drive, it will install in UEFI mode (if your pc   is in legacy mode, it will fail to enter setup screen)

if you boot with entry without UEFI-prefix,  and you pc in in UEFI mode, it will not boot.

Quantifier

i am a cranky old man,  was a programmer since early 1970, retired more than 10 years ago.

Too much free time,

watch too much  CSI.

Deduction skill is 50/50 at best.

 

 

i begin to think you problem is:

fictitious

 

if i am incorrect, i sincerely apologize.