theconnactic Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 There was a trick that used to work with the dreaded 69xx series cards, which was to use a 69xx card to power a secondary monitor, while the the primary screen was hooked in the IGPU. Since the ID's are already there, did someone tried this trick with a R9 290X? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechGuru Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 There was a trick that used to work with the dreaded 69xx series cards, which was to use a 69xx card to power a secondary monitor, while the the primary screen was hooked in the IGPU. Since the ID's are already there, did someone tried this trick with a R9 290X? yes i did and nothing happened they also used that tricked the the 7000 amd cards before the sleep trick and fbuffer thing was done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theconnactic Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 By the way, what about FBRotate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechGuru Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 By the way, what about FBRotate? ya that what i meant fbrotate i tried for one monitor and edited it for 2 and 3 but nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 guys, if it needs some cleaning, I'm your man but please alexis and the others, try to deal with your differences of opinion in private thank you for your understanding 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonhun Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 280X FULLY SUPPORTED.290X Support coming soon!OS X Mavericks 10.9.3 Build 13D55 updated HAWAII drivers you can try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechGuru Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 got my self a ssd now not the one i wanted only a 60gb but i am making a bootable usb in vmware now and will get this {censored} working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Dev Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 yes please clean out all cuda and nvidia thanks Please do not be a fan boy and be open minded. If you want to portray yourself as you have, not considering alternative gpus, cursing, lack of willingness to work with others and such, then so be it. I really would like to work with you with this issue but you make it impossible. Anyway... the issue has nothing to do with the drivers but the BIOS of the GPUS. Now to educate you on a few things about Apple and AMD drivers is that since Apple added support for the AMD 6xxx gen they have always included the majority of Device ID's for the majority of the GPU models. This does not however mean the BIOS on the GPUs will or can work with the drivers. So unless the BIOS on the cards is rewritten and then loaded using the Boot Loader or Flashed to the GPU there will be no progression. If you still feel that it is a driver issue then look at the AMD drivers for windows as they have not released a non beta version since last year so Mac OS X is the last thing on AMD's mind. Even if we can get around these issue by the time we do something newer and faster and cheaper will be upon us such as the AMD 8000 Series or Nvidia's 800 Maxwell Series (which some are out already). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechGuru Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 Please do not be a fan boy and be open minded. If you want to portray yourself as you have, not considering alternative gpus, cursing, lack of willingness to work with others and such, then so be it. I really would like to work with you with this issue but you make it impossible. Anyway... the issue has nothing to do with the drivers but the BIOS of the GPUS. Now to educate you on a few things about Apple and AMD drivers is that since Apple added support for the AMD 6xxx gen they have always included the majority of Device ID's for the majority of the GPU models. This does not however mean the BIOS on the GPUs will or can work with the drivers. So unless the BIOS on the cards is rewritten and then loaded using the Boot Loader or Flashed to the GPU there will be no progression. If you still feel that it is a driver issue then look at the AMD drivers for windows as they have not released a non beta version since last year so Mac OS X is the last thing on AMD's mind. Even if we can get around these issue by the time we do something newer and faster and cheaper will be upon us such as the AMD 8000 Series or Nvidia's 800 Maxwell Series (which some are out already). THIS IS A AMD THREAD ONLY!! HEND THE NAME A TITLE DEAL WITH IT guys, if it needs some cleaning, I'm your man but please alexis and the others, try to deal with your differences of opinion in private thank you for your understanding THE SOONER all nvidia {censored} is cleared out the sooner we can get back on topic and thanks for the offer i was getting sick of the thread going so far off topic yet again with useless {censored} ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC:os x 10.9.2 is installed and now updating and i have flashed a custom bios with ln2 mode to fix any performance problems so my card is now seen as a 290x lighting and i am installing 10.9.3 newest now and wiill try uefi mode for boot and other things so if we can stay on topic for good without nvidia fanboys or cuda bull that would be great thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theconnactic Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Anyway... the issue has nothing to do with the drivers but the BIOS of the GPUS. Are you sure about that, Rampage? How did you come to this conclusion? Or is this a logical deduction based on elimination of other possible causes of the Hawaii cards not to be working...? So unless the BIOS on the cards is rewritten and then loaded using the Boot Loader or Flashed to the GPU there will be no progression. If you still feel that it is a driver issue then look at the AMD drivers for windows as they have not released a non beta version since last year so Mac OS X Look at the usage of PC GPUs on Mac Pros, which have EFI, so no boot screen, but as long as there are drivers for the GPU, it will work: yes, even Cayman ones (6xxx). Perhaps, if the drivers already support them indeed, the Hawaii cards only need some workarounds to actually load the drivers, just as Cayman. What makes me skeptical about this being a BIOS issue is that the cards won't work even when powering a secondary monitor. Alexis, by the way: did you try putting the boot loader at the EFI folder? That was the definite solution for the 7xxx cards that cause booting gibberish and freeze. P.S.: Rampage and a Alexis: if it's indeed a BIOS issue, can this tool be of any help? http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-1868686/edit-graphics-card-bios-rbe-gpu-note-work-amd-ati-cards.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Dev Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I tried... alexis6669 I am trying to work with you but in the end you do not want to work with others. @theconnactic you can get the ROM that way. I think we need to disable the Crossfire part of the GPU. It keeps looking for another card to enable crossfire with since it does not use a Crossfire bridge. The card acts like some 4850's did back in the day when a CF bridge was connected which would cause the system to just reboot. This is just part of the issue I believe but with that done you should be able to boot in but this is just a educated guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechGuru Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 Are you sure about that, Rampage? How did you come to this conclusion? Or is this a logical deduction based on elimination of other possible causes of the Hawaii cards not to be working...? Look at the usage of PC GPUs on Mac Pros, which have EFI, so no boot screen, but as long as there are drivers for the GPU, it will work: yes, even Cayman ones (6xxx). Perhaps, if the drivers already support them indeed, the Hawaii cards only need some workarounds to actually load the drivers, just as Cayman. What makes me skeptical about this being a BIOS issue is that the cards won't work even when powering a secondary monitor. Alexis, by the way: did you try putting the boot loader at the EFI folder? That was the definite solution for the 7xxx cards that cause booting gibberish and freeze. P.S.: Rampage and a Alexis: if it's indeed a BIOS issue, can this tool be of any help? http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-1868686/edit-graphics-card-bios-rbe-gpu-note-work-amd-ati-cards.html tried uefi and efi and normal boot all with the bios of my card in play but as we are able to now use feed back app in os x i reported the 290x as not working i gave them my bios and the current drivers i suggest you all do the same maybe if we complain enough it will get {censored} done i also provided my mac pro info that no longer turns on but this does not mean i give up yet but i found out another issue my intel hd 4000 graphics dont work in 10.9.3 either which is odd I tried... alexis6669 I am trying to work with you but in the end you do not want to work with others. @theconnactic you can get the ROM that way. I think we need to disable the Crossfire part of the GPU. It keeps looking for another card to enable crossfire with since it does not use a Crossfire bridge. The card acts like some 4850's did back in the day when a CF bridge was connected which would cause the system to just reboot. This is just part of the issue I believe but with that done you should be able to boot in but this is just a educated guess. we should be able to do that in the bios of the card and then reflash it on one of the bios on the card and the ln2 bios gave me a good boost in speed in windows woot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theconnactic Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Do you have a "real" (that is, Apple-made) Mac Pro, alexis? Otherwise Apple will solemnly ignore your complains. But good luck! Hope 10.9.4 solve this if no one can find anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe75 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 You send in a report from a hack thats using a PC card and think something is going to become of it.. !?! Sorry man, you just lost any confidence or credibility that I might have had with you actually being able to solve this issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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