Slice Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 ... and does all what I need. . Including iMessage and Hibernation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namvan Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 been using Chameleon. It is good. then switched to Clover. Best so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Xtreme Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Who forgot to put Ozmosis on the list. I use Enoch fr my AMD hack (Clover hates any USB Keyboard/Mouse I try), and my hand modified Ozmosis BIOS UEFI on my Intel hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Who forgot to put Ozmosis on the list. Done! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnifico Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 mhmm...but tony have a bootloader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlord Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Chameleon for the old BIOS based setup (GA-P35, Q6600) Clover for UEFI. Both stable and solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoblikat Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 No love for rEFInd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 14 hours ago, Smoblikat said: No love for rEFInd? Not intended for Hackintosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max.1974 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Hi guys, someone already install the Big Sur on a Hackintosh? Clover will need update, im guess... Long Life for Clover!! PS: Slice, don't forget to give a Kickass on this ARM processors with a BIG KEXT!!!! Edited June 23, 2020 by Max.1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vit9696 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 @Jief_Machak, @Slice, this may sound a little harsh, but might it be the time to say goodbye to Clover as it is? OpenCore follows rather different design and philosophy and making it work on top of Clover is not the greatest idea, as it replaces 90% of the functionality in Clover except the UI maybe. It is my personal opinion, although shared by a number of developers, but OpenCore code is also a lot cleaner and better documented. Perhaps, a better approach would be to merge the most useful Clover parts into OpenCore if there still are any, as a driver or even to mainline, and continue developing the unified project together? I understand that we have different understanding of how the UI should work, but this thing works via the protocol, which can technically be extended and replaced by a standalone driver with Clover-like UI. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, vit9696 said: @Jief_Machak, @Slice, this may sound a little harsh, but might it be the time to say goodbye to Clover as it is? OpenCore follows rather different design and philosophy and making it work on top of Clover is not the greatest idea, as it replaces 90% of the functionality in Clover except the UI maybe. It is my personal opinion, although shared by a number of developers, but OpenCore code is also a lot cleaner and better documented. Perhaps, a better approach would be to merge the most useful Clover parts into OpenCore if there still are any, as a driver or even to mainline, and continue developing the unified project together? I understand that we have different understanding of how the UI should work, but this thing works via the protocol, which can technically be extended and replaced by a standalone driver with Clover-like UI. I agree working together would be great. I wasn't really involve and following like now when you started OpenCore. I don't know why it started. I also already thought about putting the UI of clover in OpenCore. But in the end, Big Sur is probably the last macOs version that will exist on Intel (not sure, do you know more?). If PC manufacturer don't start to make ARM PC, this 2 projects will be useless soon anyway. Is it worth the effort ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, vit9696 said: @Jief_Machak, @Slice, this may sound a little harsh, but might it be the time to say goodbye to Clover as it is? OpenCore follows rather different design and philosophy and making it work on top of Clover is not the greatest idea, as it replaces 90% of the functionality in Clover except the UI maybe. It is my personal opinion, although shared by a number of developers, but OpenCore code is also a lot cleaner and better documented. Perhaps, a better approach would be to merge the most useful Clover parts into OpenCore if there still are any, as a driver or even to mainline, and continue developing the unified project together? I understand that we have different understanding of how the UI should work, but this thing works via the protocol, which can technically be extended and replaced by a standalone driver with Clover-like UI. Integration is a good idea but there is a little problem. Too different sources and compilation technique. Moreover Clover GUI is written on C++ now. I don't knwo if it is possible to implement it into OpenCore. The better idea will be using OpenCore sources on C as an additional libraries for Clover. Anyway I can't compile the branch opencore_integration with numerous errors starting as [CC] BootFixes3 Section 1 .text mCoffOffset=576(0x240) mCoffOffsetNew=576(0x240) diff=0(0x0) Section 5 .eh_frame mCoffOffset=37520(0x9290) mCoffOffsetNew=38336(0x95c0) diff=816(0x330) Section 3 .data mCoffOffset=38336(0x95c0) mCoffOffsetNew=37568(0x92c0) diff=-768(0xfffffd00) Section 1 .text mCoffOffset=576(0x240) mCoffOffsetNew=576(0x240) diff=0(0x0) Section 5 .eh_frame mCoffOffset=63984(0xf9f0) mCoffOffsetNew=65536(0x10000) diff=1552(0x610) Section 3 .data mCoffOffset=65536(0x10000) mCoffOffsetNew=64000(0xfa00) diff=-1536(0xfffffa00) [GENFW] XhciDxe and ending lto-wrapper: fatal error: /Users/sergey/src/opt/local/cross/bin/x86_64-clover-linux-gnu-gcc returned 1 exit status compilation terminated. /Users/sergey/src/opt/local/cross/lib/gcc/x86_64-clover-linux-gnu/10.1.0/../../../../x86_64-clover-linux-gnu/bin/ld: error: lto-wrapper failed collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [/Users/sergey/src/CloverBootloader/Build/Clover/RELEASE_GCC53/X64/FileSystems/VBoxFsDxe/VBoxIso9660/DEBUG/VBoxIso9600.dll] Error 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vit9696 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Released Macs this year (e.g. iMac20,1) will be supported for at least 7 years from now. So we expect at least 5 more operating systems after 11.0 that will support Intel Macs. We are also interested in making older operating systems work on vintage computers and virtual machines (even on ARM Macs when they are released). So yes, we believe there is some good reason to support a clean thing. The primary reason we started OpenCore was that Clover has many "automatic" actions, which behaviour is not documented anywhere. This caused many issues on various platforms from Macs and virtual machines to even hacks. There also were some design issues like no bless model (operating system discovery that works not like on Macs and often breaks), legacy kext injection, a lot of legacy in the configuration, and so on. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Topic unlocked Poll (re)opened Added OpenCore The topic will stay unlocked but on one condition - No egos war!!! Stay focused on the main question which is to share which your favorite boot loader/manager is, not which one is best. Any post that does not meet this condition will simply be deleted. And in the case of flaming/abusive behavior, the topic will be definitively closed. Thank you for your understanding. BR fantomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6600 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, fantomas said: Any post that does not meet this condition will simply be deleted. And in the case of flaming/abusive behavior, the topic will be definitively closed. All This posts were moved to This topic from clover thread. I dont know who has done this, but i'm Sure those werent originally in This thread. Why is it not allowed to discuss about bootloaders in This Forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Intel6600 said: Why is it not allowed to discuss about bootloaders in This Forum? 'Cause InsanelyMac is the home of OSx86 😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Intel6600 said: Why is it not allowed to discuss about bootloaders in This Forum? If you want to discuss about Clover, then we have a dedicated forum, as well as for other bootloaders. Each time we have a such discussion, it ends up in a muddle between the main actors (i.e. developers), and some users like to put fire on the oil by opening this kind of topic. That is the reason. Each bootloader has its own advantages and disadvantages, none is perfect. They are worth all and w/o them, they wouldn't be hackint0sh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6600 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 These posts were in the clover "General discussion" Thread, but someone moved them into This thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryV Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 The answer is you should use the best bootloader for the job. And when the situation merits, the best bootmanager for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makk Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) None, I would rather the unit just boot up.... so much configs and all the rest. Days and nights spent to eliminate and figure out. Voice activated, solar powered nano bano like in all the scifi Both Clover and Opencore are good. Been using Clover for some years and has served well. Opencore works well as well, but it gets to be somewhat cumbersome when you forget to add or eliminate something in the config.plist. Can be brutal. A more smart bootloader is in order. like AI Edited October 8, 2021 by makk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippoX0 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I have used Chameleon and Clover.All depends on what computer you use it ( legacy bios or Uefi )For me OC is still a mess .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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