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I was first


It really is a perfect test bed to recreate issues on. I hope they make a Haswell MB in this forum factor this summer.

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Following along, very interested, my 3 year old board is ready for an upgrade...subscribed to the email newsletter too, great work thus far guys.

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Say nothing about FakeSMC?
If it still needed then how can you say "compatible with OSX"?
For me HackOSX can be installed on most computers.

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Say nothing about FakeSMC?
If it still needed then how can you say "compatible with OSX"?
For me HackOSX can be installed on most computers.

Agreed.
Does it implement an ACPI SMC device in the hardware or in the firmware?

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Good question, but at the moment there are no informations about their firmware at all, no even 3rd party tests results.
Looks like we'll have to wait till we get new informations from quo. :(

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If I were a motherboard manufacturer, I would go out of my way to make sure all my hardware is compatible with OS X, that way you would make some extra sales from the people wanting to build hackintoshes. Not sure if thats how companies think but that would be cool.

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If I were a motherboard manufacturer, I would go out of my way to make sure all my hardware is compatible with OS X, that way you would make some extra sales from the people wanting to build hackintoshes. Not sure if thats how companies think but that would be cool.


Sort of like anonymous Gigabyte employees have already admitted to doing?

If you add together the downloads of all the various installation tools and distros, it's not a stretch to say that the hackintosh motherboard market sector is a multi-million dollar industry already.

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Hey guys, this has been very fun to follow and i am also very excited about this project. The request of $160 made me laugh. This is clearly at least the equal of the $250 z77x-up5 board (though a full ATX version would be a great option). One question i have not seen discussed is will thunderbolt hotplug / hotswap work on this board?
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I think people are missing the key part to this motherboard, it will (theoretically) keep working. Other than audio there will be no issues with updates, it's the closet we've ever gotten to straight apple hardware.

The real question will obviously be updates over time, but even if there aren't any the hardware is ahead of everyone elses.

For people that use a Hackintosh to GET WORK DONE, and not just "chromebook" worthy duties, and tinkering, this is huge. It's the difference of some glitch getting you out of nowhere, which is entirely possible on most hacks. Remember it's not just apples updates but the communities itself. The latest chimera that fixed iMessages also now introduced some sleep issues on an otherwise 100% kosher machine.

Were working on the fringe, this AOS board has the benefit of stabilizing a LOT of factors that can be problematic.

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chimera that fixed iMessages also now introduced some sleep issues on an otherwise 100% kosher machine.


You do know that chimera is stolen and is just rebranded Chameleon Bootloader right?

They did nothing to develop any fixes, patches or solutions.

Also my system is 100% stable as are the majority of systems. It does not matter what hardware you are using it comes down to understanding the install and post install process. I can make almost any system that is intel base work 100% within 2 hours of receiving all the parts.

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The latest chimera that fixed iMessages also now introduced some sleep issues on an otherwise 100% kosher machine.


Chimera didn't fix anything: it just incorporated the fix from the main trunk of Chameleon. The development of the fix was made by meklort and cosmo1t, who don't have a thing to do with the Chimera branch, and was available for Chameleon users almost a month before Chimera was updated to include it. Caesaris caesari. ;) Check out if there are sleep issues with latest Chameleon, by the way.

Best regards!

You do know that chimera is stolen and is just rebranded Chameleon Bootloader right?


I wouldn't go that far, regardless of my thoughts about Voldemort and his Horcruxes: Chimera is a legitimate (registered) branch of Chameleon, despite its contributions to the main trunk being minimal (some graphics card IDs or so).

Best regards!

Edited by theconnactic, 03 March 2013 - 09:15 PM.


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I wouldn't go that far, regardless of my thoughts about Voldemort and his Horcruxes: Chimera is a legitimate (registered) branch of Chameleon, despite its contributions to the main trunk being minimal (some graphics card IDs or so).
Best regards!


Rebranded with a few Device ID's provided. Ask the developers.

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Anyway, and only as a side note, the Messages fix was idealized by El Nono and others, and Clover was the first to include the fix, weeks before Chameleon itself. Then meklort and cosmo1t did a wonderful job coming up with a solution for Chameleon. I followed that development, since i used to talk with meklort on IRC almost in a daily basis (he also contributes, albeit more with tips and directions than actual code, to AMD kernel development): those two guys really rock.

Best regards!

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Never said Chimera wasn't a blatant rip of chameleon. Just generally has had less issues, as chameleon is not as "release-y" as chimera, so some of the trunk versions have issues, some don't. My machine is my main "production" machine so it needs to run no issue-and rampage, I too can get anything up in under two hours, I've been working on hacks since the leaked Tiger images a very, very, very long time ago (I've been a user here since august of '05 for example).

As for the chimera comment it was a comment in general, many of the "new releases" of the tools we use on a hack also pose the possibility of issues (not for all, but for some). Same could apply to Chameleon, Clover, etc. What my point was AOS board has the potential to remove a lot of these things from being necessary, thus removing the potential for future issues, or issues that arrive from updates to the scene's releases. Let's forget I mentioned chimera then ;)

Edited by Philz, 04 March 2013 - 01:52 AM.


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announced this weekend...

http://www.kickstart...que-motherboard

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Announced, backed...and waiting for the May to arrive now. :whistle:

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ok guys, i am really very interested in this and would be happy to pre-order (kickstarter) as well as spread the word to several friends who would likely want this board. But i do need a couple of questions answered. Will thunderbolt be hot plug capable and hot swap capable in OS X? have any of the devs been able to test this? Also how will the fw800 headers be dealt with? is a back bracket or front panel included? i am not familiar with brackets or panels that support fw800 so it would be good to know if it comes with the board or if not what is a good source for compatible back bracket or front panel fw800 ports.
Thanks,
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I am one of the motherboard developers(ACPI and UEFI customizations).so few inputs from me:
- This board will require minimal (to none on future) user input for OS (X) boot, AOS stands for ALL OS, so is not just a board for hackint0sh, we are developing it for Windows and Linux too.
- It will feature built in UEFI Open Boot Loader and as a future plan built in Chameleon for legacy boot, more info and details later.
- Built in components: Intel 82574L LAN, Intel USB 3.0, TI FW800 2x ports on board and x1 FW400 on back, HD4000 Graphics(require CPU support), ALC892 Audio Codec, and 2x Cactus Ridge Thunderbolt ports all this in Micro ATX form factor.
- All built in components works OOTB with our custom firmware(exception is audio).


Thinking long and hard about it.

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so, which are the main differences w.r.t. a plain Gigabyte motherboard? many gigabyte motherboards require minimal effort to be used with OSX

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so, which are the main differences w.r.t. a plain Gigabyte motherboard? many gigabyte motherboards require minimal effort to be used with OSX


*Edit* Just realized you're implying that you know it's a Gigabyte, sorry! Comment is now directed at those who didn't know.

It IS a Gigabyte motherboard - or at least it's a side-project that involves them. From the kickstarter page: "The motherboard is created by a very reputable company, Gigabyte USA as an exclusive OEM project."

Honestly this little bit of information worries me. If Apple finds out that a MAJOR manufacturer is involved in the hackintosh scene, they will start doing more to block us out, almost guaranteed. I know that we have some truly talented coders in the community who can pretty much break anything Apple puts out, but it worries me nonetheless. The OSx86 community has survived partly because there have only been a very few number of ventures into commercialization (Psystar etc)...I can't imagine Apple legal overlooking one of the world's leading motherboard manufacturers backing EULA violations.





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