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@theconnactic

Yup!
ATM, I think the old 46xx/48xx card is still a better option for the 64-bit AMD ML


For a better price per performance ratio
(compared to nvidia cards, only if you can get a cheap used ATI one :D ),
These 2 cards might be considerable:

HD 4870 which is relatively equal with:
- GTX 275 http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/
- GTX 460 http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/
- GTX 550Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/

-or-

HD 4890 which is relatively equal with:
- GTX 560Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4890-1gb/
- GTX 650 http://www.hwcompare...-hd-4890-1gb/
- GTX 650Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4890-1gb/


Cons:
- relatively old architecture
- power-hungry devices
- hot & noisy
- no DX11 support (only DX10/10.1) under M$-Win


But that's just my two cents ;)

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@theconnactic

Yup!
ATM, I think the old 46xx/48xx card is still a better option for the 64-bit AMD ML


For a better price per performance ratio
(compared to nvidia cards, only if you can get a cheap used ATI one :D ),
These 2 cards might be considerable:

HD 4870 which is relatively equal with:
- GTX 275 http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/
- GTX 460 http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/
- GTX 550Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/

-or-

HD 4890 which is relatively equal with:
- GTX 560Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4890-1gb/
- GTX 650 http://www.hwcompare...-hd-4890-1gb/
- GTX 650Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4890-1gb/


Cons:
- relatively old architecture
- power-hungry devices
- hot & noisy
- no DX11 support (only DX10/10.1) under M$-Win


But that's just my two cents ;)

thanks! and what about hd5770?
:)


EDIT: SHIIIIT That HD 4890 is beast :D And cheap!

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thanks! and what about hd5770?
:)


unfortunately, the current amd kernel still has some issues with the accelerator kext (AMDRadeonAccelerator.kext) for the latest series of ATI (5xxx/6xxx/7xxx series)

but I read somewhere in this forum,
R:A:W:X86 can manage to boot the osx ML with the old 10.6/10.7 accelerator kext (ATIRadeonX3000)
and he can also play an OpenGL game



EDIT: SHIIIIT That HD 4890 is beast :D And cheap!



Here in my region, a used HD4890 1GB only costs less than $50

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oke so :
The only thing i want is 1920 x 1080 resolution, and as less distortion as possible.
I dont need heavy gaming or anything. Only thing i would also like is HDMI output
What do you recommend?

HD4650
HD4850
HD4890
HD5450
HD5770

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M$-Win with DX11 = 5xxx/6xxx/7xxx

64-bit AMD osx = 46xx/48xx

HD4650 = me
HD4850 = Gilles

HD4890 = You'll be the first :D
but I'm quite sure that this card will also work since it still uses the ATIRadeonX2000 kext as its accelerator

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HD4650 = me
HD4850 = Gilles
HD4890 = You'll be the first :D
but I'm quite sure that this card will also work since it still uses the ATIRadeonX2000 kext as its accelerator

Lets try to get the HD4890 First then ;)
If i can't find one ill buy HD4850 and else HD4650.
We'll see :P

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4870 & 4890 are power hungry beasts

so they must be supplied by a powerful PSU, 600W-700W pure (80% bronze)

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Got 500w 80%+ Lets check what ati website says

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it depends on how many devices attached to your PSU

http://www.extreme.o...culatorlite.jsp
http://www.thermalta...utervision.com/
http://www.coolermas...utervision.com/

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FFFUUU!
I do a USB Drive with my friend's mac (GPT) but i don't put inside the usb drive the Fx_kernel and Mac Drive don't read GPT Partition... Any solution except OSX in VM? :D

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Oke my 500W powersupply should be fine :D
http://www.extreme.o...n.com/PSUEngine used this and added some more usb devices and fans :P
On peak load (every component at 100%) it will need 410 watts.
On normal use (every component at 80%) i will need 320 watts.
So my card is already ordered :D

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Oke my 500W powersupply should be fine :D
http://www.extreme.o...n.com/PSUEngine used this and added some more usb devices and fans :P
On peak load (every component at 100%) it will need 410 watts.
On normal use (every component at 80%) i will need 320 watts.
So my card is already ordered :D



nah!

you must also add 20% (PSU loss) and 10%-30% (safety/spare)

so total wattage should be between 130% - 150% of your power consumption :D miscalculation

410W ---> 533W < your PSU < 615W

320W ---> 416W < ypur PSU < 480W




EDIT:

Sorry for the miscalculation

10%-30% (safety/spare) is supposed to be added to the wattage of PSU which is 120% of your power consumption

so the correct total wattage should be between (110% of 120%) and (130% of 120%) = 132% - 156%

410W ---> 541.2W < your PSU < 639.6W

320W ---> 422.4W < your PSU < 499.2W

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nah!

you must also add 20% (PSU loss) and 10%-30% (safety/spare)

so total wattage should be between 130% - 150% of your power consumption


410W ---> 533W < your PSU < 615W

320W ---> 416W < ypur PSU < 480W

the numbers i gave you were including 50 spare watts
So 410/100*120 = 492 :D
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Look what i just found! http://www.osx86.net...ion_10.8.2.html
"there's QE_CI Exotic patch for the final public Mountain Lion 10.8.2 ! It's ONLY for ATI HD 48xx series cards !!!"
Aw yeaah

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oke so :
The only thing i want is 1920 x 1080 resolution, and as less distortion as possible.
I dont need heavy gaming or anything. Only thing i would also like is HDMI output
What do you recommend?

HD4650
HD4850
HD4890
HD5450
HD5770


I recommend, based on Carol's posts, you go 4xxx. Both the 5450 and the 5770 will work, but the later requires a lot of work. The former, the 5450, requires only the device ID being added to two kexts, and will work smoothly, with almost no distortion (on pair with 4xxx series cards, see Gilles' and my own tests in the Mountain Lion testing topic) with all ports working. HDMI audio won't work, so keep that in mind. I only recommend the 5450 if price is your concern and you also have Windows and need a DX11 card.

All the best.

FFFUUU!
I do a USB Drive with my friend's mac (GPT) but i don't put inside the usb drive the Fx_kernel and Mac Drive don't read GPT Partition... Any solution except OSX in VM? :D


Are you sure mac drive doesn't read GPT?

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@Bitcore

I think the 550W PSU is the min. req. for your system to run the HD4890
but if you still insist to run it with 500W PSU then I can only say: TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK !!! :D



@theconnactic


about HDMI audio,

have you tried to remap both video path (based on bcc9's guide) and audio path (based on THe KiNG's guide) ?

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Yes, i did. And my DSDT is technically well prepared for HDMI audio. Yet, even VoodooHDA fails to enable it, and further research has shown me this is apparently an issue for all HD5450 users under OSX. If i make it, i'll probably be one of the very first. AppleHDA, though, is a work in progress. ATI chipset: very tough to get working. :)

All the best!

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I recommend, based on Carol's posts, you go 4xxx. Both the 5450 and the 5770 will work, but the later requires a lot of work. The former, the 5450, requires only the device ID being added to two kexts, and will work smoothly, with almost no distortion (on pair with 4xxx series cards, see Gilles' and my own tests in the Mountain Lion testing topic) with all ports working. HDMI audio won't work, so keep that in mind. I only recommend the 5450 if price is your concern and you also have Windows and need a DX11 card.

All the best.



Are you sure mac drive doesn't read GPT?

Yep :(

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Thus i'm afraid VBox or VMware are the last available resources.

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I recommend, based on Carol's posts, you go 4xxx. Both the 5450 and the 5770 will work, but the later requires a lot of work. The former, the 5450, requires only the device ID being added to two kexts, and will work smoothly, with almost no distortion (on pair with 4xxx series cards, see Gilles' and my own tests in the Mountain Lion testing topic) with all ports working. HDMI audio won't work, so keep that in mind. I only recommend the 5450 if price is your concern and you also have Windows and need a DX11 card.

All the best.

I also have windows but dx10.1 is good for me, since i dont game anymore.
Yeah i saw it! Gills got 40FPS on cinebench! :D

@Bitcore

I think the 550W PSU is the min. req. for your system to run the HD4890
but if you still insist to run it with 500W PSU then I can only say: TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK !!! :D

Thanks for your cares :)
No not at my risk! At XFX's risk!
"This card requires both a 6-pin and an 8-pin connector. A 500W or larger power supply with one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCIe is recommended by XFX. If you want to run CrossFire, a power supply of at least 600W is suggested with two 6-pin connectors and two 8-pin connectors."

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Thus i'm afraid VBox or VMware are the last available resources.

Linux?
EDIT: With Ubuntu I put fx_kernel in the usb drive, but don't boot, it start directly the SSD.





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