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Why don't you help people with basic questions?



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Can you explain better what you mean? Do you mean like a basic FAQ?

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i think she talk about this : http://www.insanelym...howtopic=280653

or that : http://www.insanelym...l=&fromsearch=1

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Almost any info you need is out there if you look, but when asking others to take their personal time to answer your questions, a little patience is in order. I'll post a response on your orig thread where it belongs.

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no

i think she talk about this : http://www.insanelym...howtopic=280653

or that : http://www.insanelym...l=&fromsearch=1



But she did get help in those 2 instances.

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i don't know

we'll see it after her awakening ! :D


p.s : I think more that this topic was created following a minor frustraction :laser:

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not liking the answer if it seems too hard and unanswered are 2 different things,.Many times questions are answered with questions, which is frustrating to some I know, but for good reason. The more is known about a problem, the better it can be solved. There are no simple questions, at least for the one asking, otherwise there would be no reason to ask.

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We all know the information we need is available. You just have to Google it!

If it's true that not everyone has the basic knowledge to try an hackintosh is also true that everyone as the ability to learn. Sometimes a little help can make the difference.

I'm not frustrated... I saw lots of topics without any answer at all. I though discussion forums where made to share knowledge. Its sad when someone tries to get some help and no one answers.
Not even to say... "You wont be able to do that" or "You wont find help for that issue".

Tomorrow you might need help on a different subject and one of these Nobies can be the one answering your questions. We all have our skills so If we're not experts with hackintosh we'll be at something else.

My personal experience here has been positive. I'm learning and trying to figure out which bootloader/drive should I use for my mobo/cpu/graphic card and the forum has been useful to me.

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You see, this is an excellent example of a question which doesn't get an answer. Why? Probably in this case because it has already been discussed dozens of times.

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Just saying, asked about GMA X4500 graphics driver, both eep and PookyMacMan replied "You won't ever find that"

So I decided to take the step to code it myself. Didn't finish (or start) yet, though. lol.

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I though discussion forums where made to share knowledge. Its sad when someone tries to get some help and no one answers.

When you've been around for several years you start to grow a different perspective on things. I do this for my own personal amusement and diversion, if it's not fun to me I leave it alone and do something else. It's not a job, I don't have to help you or anyone else here. I do when I feel like it. I didn't even see your posts, my entrance to this forum is a page with the latest posts from all the boards. I only open those with a title that catches my interest, or, as a moderator, if I see something that I believe needs intervention.
I pass on many questions that I know the answer to if it looks like it will be too much work and not a lot of fun, or because I've answered the exact same questions already..what feels like a hundreds of times, over and over.
I have already "shared knowledge" and I found most of it here. It was here before I passed it on to someone else. And I believe that if I could find it, so can you.

There are people here who know a lot about specific hardware or specific devices, but are completely lost when it comes to hardware they have never worked with. Some people are highly familiar with a certain installation method and wouldn't touch others with a ten foot pole. This means that not everyone that you perceive as knowledgeable will be able to help you.

It has never been easier to install OS X on a compatible PC than it is today but it still requires curiosity and the will to bend your mind, change the way you think.

The problem is that sometimes, when you're new, you don't even know what you're looking for in the first place. Today you'll be reading somebody's post, thinking, this isn't for me, what does this mean, I can't use this. A month later you'll be returning to that same post, and reading it again you will think to yourself, if only I had known then what I know now, this post answers all the questions that I had then, I just didn't know how to read it at the time.

You must study, read and find your own "way in". Some people don't know what "hard drive controller" or "boot sector" means. It seems to me that unfortunately, most people just stop reading when they see something they don't understand, instead of pressing on. Then they start asking questions, even ignoring good, solid advice based on years of experience, thinking there is some easy way, a special way just for them, a quick shortcut through all the terms and words that they are unfamiliar with. But that doesn't exist.

Be prepared to learn some new words and technical terms, be prepared to wrap your mind around some new concepts. A good deal of fundamental knowledge about how computers work is required if you want to follow some of the discussions that go on in here where you can actually learn something. And the people that you can learn something from don't waste time with the simple stuff, they talk about things at their level, using words and terms that you might be unfamiliar with. And they are also in the middle of discovering new things, just like you. There is always something to learn, it never stops.

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You see, this is an excellent example of a question which doesn't get an answer. Why? Probably in this case because it has already been discussed dozens of times.


Alessandro, I might be wrong but for my system configuration there are dozens of possibilities to install OS X, some better than other. In these things we always have pros and cons isn't that right?

It's easy to decide... I'll use myHack, or let's try Kakewalk that one seem's easier. Well and why not ##### or... I could go on and on!

I was trying to start a discussion around this subject. I wasn't looking for a straight answer. But you guys have a serious problem...

I pass on many questions that I know the answer to if it looks like it will be too much work and not a lot of fun, or because I've answered the exact same questions already..what feels like a hundreds of times, over and over.


You're sharing just for fun.

É dificil dar e partilhar desinteressadamente. Eu gosto de ajudar por isso tenho dificuldade em entender gente assim.

And the people that you can learn something from don't waste time with the simple stuff, they talk about things at their level


Sua atitude É arrogante. Eu tambÉm participo em forums cujo o nivel tÉcnico pode parecer chines para muita gente e sempre ajudei quem colocou questoes básicas. Mas enfim, respeito sua opiniao.

And for last, I'd like to say that I always search for related topic before asking a question. As I said on my previous posts my main concern here was the graphic card. No one in the forum talks about an hackintosh with that card, at least I couldn't find that info.

Is it stupid trying to minimize future problems before attempting the hackintosh? Not for me, I wont even try it if I feel I may step into a problem I won't be able to fix. I can't afford losing my pc, I'm risking my working tool!

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I can't help you.

If you have a problem with your video card, you can start by typing site:insanelymac.com/forum Geforce 560 Ti into google.
If you don't like to be told to google, consider this: The more specific you can be when asking for help with something, the more useful the answers will be.

Good luck.

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When you've been around for several years you start to grow a different perspective on things. I do this for my own personal amusement and diversion, if it's not fun to me I leave it alone and do something else. It's not a job, I don't have to help you or anyone else here. I do when I feel like it. I didn't even see your posts, my entrance to this forum is a page with the latest posts from all the boards. I only open those with a title that catches my interest, or, as a moderator, if I see something that I believe needs intervention.
I pass on many questions that I know the answer to if it looks like it will be too much work and not a lot of fun, or because I've answered the exact same questions already..what feels like a hundreds of times, over and over.
I have already "shared knowledge" and I found most of it here. It was here before I passed it on to someone else. And I believe that if I could find it, so can you.

There are people here who know a lot about specific hardware or specific devices, but are completely lost when it comes to hardware they have never worked with. Some people are highly familiar with a certain installation method and wouldn't touch others with a ten foot pole. This means that not everyone that you perceive as knowledgeable will be able to help you.

It has never been easier to install OS X on a compatible PC than it is today but it still requires curiosity and the will to bend your mind, change the way you think.

The problem is that sometimes, when you're new, you don't even know what you're looking for in the first place. Today you'll be reading somebody's post, thinking, this isn't for me, what does this mean, I can't use this. A month later you'll be returning to that same post, and reading it again you will think to yourself, if only I had known then what I know now, this post answers all the questions that I had then, I just didn't know how to read it at the time.

You must study, read and find your own "way in". Some people don't know what "hard drive controller" or "boot sector" means. It seems to me that unfortunately, most people just stop reading when they see something they don't understand, instead of pressing on. Then they start asking questions, even ignoring good, solid advice based on years of experience, thinking there is some easy way, a special way just for them, a quick shortcut through all the terms and words that they are unfamiliar with. But that doesn't exist.

Be prepared to learn some new words and technical terms, be prepared to wrap your mind around some new concepts. A good deal of fundamental knowledge about how computers work is required if you want to follow some of the discussions that go on in here where you can actually learn something. And the people that you can learn something from don't waste time with the simple stuff, they talk about things at their level, using words and terms that you might be unfamiliar with. And they are also in the middle of discovering new things, just like you. There is always something to learn, it never stops.

Peace and Ninja Unicorns

Wow, couldn't have said it any better myself. And :ninja:!

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Alessandro, I might be wrong but for my system configuration there are dozens of possibilities to install OS X, some better than other. In these things we always have pros and cons isn't that right?


I wasn't referring to your help topics, I was referring to post #8 in this thread, which wasn't getting any answer.

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"The first thing to understand is that hackers actually like hard problems and good, thought-provoking questions about them. If we didn't, we wouldn't be here. If you give us an interesting question to chew on we'll be grateful to you; good questions are a stimulus and a gift. Good questions help us develop our understanding, and often reveal problems we might not have noticed or thought about otherwise. Among hackers, “Good question!” is a strong and sincere compliment.

Despite this, hackers have a reputation for meeting simple questions with what looks like hostility or arrogance. It sometimes looks like we're reflexively rude to newbies and the ignorant. But this isn't really true.

What we are, unapologetically, is hostile to people who seem to be unwilling to think or to do their own homework before asking questions. People like that are time sinks — they take without giving back, and they waste time we could have spent on another question more interesting and another person more worthy of an answer. We call people like this “losers” (and for historical reasons we sometimes spell it “lusers”)."

Source: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

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I can't help you.

If you have a problem with your video card, you can start by typing site:insanelymac.com/forum Geforce 560 Ti into google.
If you don't like to be told to google, consider this: The more specific you can be when asking for help with something, the more useful the answers will be.

Good luck.


I wasn´t begging for your help but thanks any way... You've tryed :P

My card isn't exactly that one. The PCI ID of this card its unknown to Lion and Chameleon. You have to patch the NVDAGF100Hal.kext to get the PCI Device ID registered. The process is different from the regular version GTX 560 TI. But I know how to install it, there's info available in the forum. Lets just see If CUDA works properly instead of just Open GL/CL...
Well this is out of topic... sorry :tomato:





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