Ryohei47 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 i installed os x on my p45 board using iatkos, worked fine. today, i installed a 10,6,5 update package that iatkos came with, and installed the update. well i went into chameleon again, and tried to boot into 7, because i had installed os x on a different partition. but it wouldnt work. after the update, os x told me to reboot, and restart, but that message stayed. what can i do? i still need the windows 7 installation, i mainly want to fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Use your Windows 7 install DVD and this guide: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392 /FixMbr is the option you are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryohei47 Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 apparently my disk doesnt work because it's a OEM disk, so i cant use it... i really need help, im just stumped right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryohei47 Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 that disk did the exact same thing my oem disk did, couldnt ID my OS, so i couldnt repair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbjmed Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 that disk did the exact same thing my oem disk did, couldnt ID my OS, so i couldnt repair Did you download the right one? If its 32 bit and you downloaded the 64 bit it wont work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 that disk did the exact same thing my oem disk did, couldnt ID my OS, so i couldnt repair That is next to impossible. One reason could be what Jbjmed wrote. In order to run FixMbr it isn't even necessary that the the disk recognises your OS. You have to follow the tutorial, step by step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbjmed Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Even if it doesn't read the os click next and repair. Should work, I just did that this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yes, and Bootrec.exe /FixMbr must be run from the Command Prompt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryohei47 Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 i went to command prompt, then boot.exe /fixmbr. it said it was done successfully, but i was still unable to go into my windows installation. or maybe im booting into windows the wrong way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 i went to command prompt, then boot.exe /fixmbr. it said it was done successfully, but i was still unable to go into my windows installation. or maybe im booting into windows the wrong way? What do you see when you try to boot into Windows? (The right command is "Bootrec.exe /FixMbr" BTW (without the quotes). Commands need to be absolutely precise). It is also possible that you have to run "Bootrec.exe /FixBoot" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryohei47 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 im sure i ran bootrec.exe /fixmbr i have a feeling though, that im booting into windows wrong or something. i tried booting into it using the iatkos disk, cause without it the computer goes straight to osx. but im not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 im sure i ran bootrec.exe /fixmbr i have a feeling though, that im booting into windows wrong or something. i tried booting into it using the iatkos disk, cause without it the computer goes straight to osx. but im not sure Well, if you manage to boot into Windows, get EasyBCD 2.0, install it and use it to fix the MBR (under Bootloader Setup). Also, add OS X to the Boot Menu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryohei47 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 i ccant actually boot into windows 7, so i dont think i can install easybcd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 i ccant actually boot into windows 7, so i dont think i can install easybcd? Indeed, if you can't boot you can't install EasyBCD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryohei47 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 is there another way to fix the partition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulcyber Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 i ccant actually boot into windows 7, so i dont think i can install easybcd? If you have two hard drives (easiest) Windows should be installed on the first drive, first partition, which written looks like this (hd0,0). The boot partition is called "System Reserved" and that is what you choose when using Chameleon. Mark that boot partition = System Reserved, to Active, shown as a star/asterisk. The way I would do this is to run a Repair install of Windows 7 and choose the Windows Partition. Once you are booting into Windows, download Easybcd and add your OS X boot partition. The main part of Windows is installed in (hd0,1). If Mac is on the same hard drive, the boot partition (I think called EFI about 200mb) is in (hd0,2) and the main part of SL is in (hd0,3). This is easier to do do with two hard drives. SL would be installed to the second hard drive designated (hd1,0), the EFI boot partition, and the main part of SL would reside in (hd1,1) 0 means first. You have to be careful not to install SL to the Windows partition, or Windows to the SL partition because you can overwrite the other OS and lose your data. that disk did the exact same thing my oem disk did, couldnt ID my OS, so i couldnt repair If you have put both of these OS on the same hard drive, I think you should use an emergency boot disk (dvd or USB stick) and make sure that your Windows partition hasn't been overwritten by your SL installation. You might have made a mistake choosing where to install SL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulcyber Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 im sure i ran bootrec.exe /fixmbr i have a feeling though, that im booting into windows wrong or something. i tried booting into it using the iatkos disk, cause without it the computer goes straight to osx. but im not sure I don't know how old your computer is, but the newer ones have a Bios that you can use to directly boot into an OS. Usually it's F12. Besides the MBR being correct, there are files on the hard drive which are needed to boot Windows. That is why I recommended to use an Emergency Boot Disk, to see if the Windows installation is still intact, and not overwritten by SL installation. If F12 or another F key works to boot OS's directly, try booting into Windows with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryohei47 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 i coudlnt boot into windows using f12. what is an emergency boot disk and how is it different from a repari diisk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulcyber Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 i coudlnt boot into windows using f12. what is an emergency boot disk and how is it different from a repari diisk? F12 is an option for a newer Bios. So, when you tried F12, were you given the option to boot into Windows or OS X? Were you able to select Windows but the boot failed? Or did F12 not produce any boot options? If not, did you see if a different function key is available in the mobo documentation? Because you once installed Windows doesn't mean it is still installed. What evidence do you have that Windows is still installed? QUOTE (Ryohei47 @ Jan 26 2011, 03:51 AM) "that disk did the exact same thing my oem disk did, couldnt ID my OS, so i couldnt repair" I think the OEM may not have the Repair option that you need. But it seems to me that it still should have reported that you had Windows installed. Same with the repair disk, unless you downloaded a Vista repair disk and not the right: 32-bit or 64-bit version. I mean that I think it can't be concluded that your Windows install is missing for certain without more evidence. So an EBD will have a utility, similar to Gparted, that will report your partition content to you. Since you installed Windows 7 first, the first partition should be about 100MB and of type NTFS. This is System Reserved and contains boot files for Windows. The second much larger Windows 7 partition should be quite a few GB, also NTFS. The third partition (from what you've said so far) should be the Snow Leopard boot partition named EFI in my experience. I think it is type HFS. Also the fourth partition much larger should also be HFS. Since you are able to boot into OS X, that means you can expect to see the SL partitions in your Partition Manager utility. The purpose of the EBD is to determine that you still have Windows partition(s) on your hard drive, and that your Win boot partition is marked active. Once you get Windows going, Easybcd is easy to add SL. Writing bytes to the MBR doesn't mean that Windows is installed on the hard drive. I think making sure Windows is still installed is the next logical troubleshooting step. Perhaps the partition information can be obtained from the OEM disk or SL disk utility but those methods are not optimized as for instance GParted or Bootit NG are designed for this. EDIT http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/10554...rate-times.html Option Two Using Diskpart http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2083-...eate.html?ltr=S To Create a "System Repair Disc" with a Download NOTE: This option is perfect if you do not have a retail Windows 7 installation DVD and only have a OEM Windows 7 recovery DVD or partition. http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/ “but it's damn-decent of Microsoft to make this available to Windows' users who might not be capable of creating such a thing on their own.” What it does: The Windows 7 Recovery Disc can be used to access a system recovery menu, giving you options of using System Restore, Complete PC Backup, automated system repair, and a command-line prompt for manual advanced recovery. Mulcyber: If this failed, what was the exact error message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryohei47 Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 when i f12, it had no response at all. i got myself a windows 7 home premium DVD, the retail version. can i boot into the DVD and upgrade my OS without formatting my osx86 or windows 7 data? F12 is an option for a newer Bios. So, when you tried F12, were you given the option to bootinto Windows or OS X? Were you able to select Windows but the boot failed? Or did F12 not produce any boot options? If not, did you see if a different function key is available in the mobo documentation? Because you once installed Windows doesn't mean it is still installed. What evidence do you have that Windows is still installed? QUOTE (Ryohei47 @ Jan 26 2011, 03:51 AM) "that disk did the exact same thing my oem disk did, couldnt ID my OS, so i couldnt repair" I think the OEM may not have the Repair option that you need. But it seems to me that it still should have reported that you had Windows installed. Same with the repair disk, unless you downloaded a Vista repair disk and not the right: 32-bit or 64-bit version. I mean that I think it can't be concluded that your Windows install is missing for certain without more evidence. So an EBD will have a utility, similar to Gparted, that will report your partition content to you. Since you installed Windows 7 first, the first partition should be about 100MB and of type NTFS. This is System Reserved and contains boot files for Windows. The second much larger Windows 7 partition should be quite a few GB, also NTFS. The third partition (from what you've said so far) should be the Snow Leopard boot partition named EFI in my experience. I think it is type HFS. Also the fourth partition much larger should also be HFS. Since you are able to boot into OS X, that means you can expect to see the SL partitions in your Partition Manager utility. The purpose of the EBD is to determine that you still have Windows partition(s) on your hard drive, and that your Win boot partition is marked active. Once you get Windows going, Easybcd is easy to add SL. Writing bytes to the MBR doesn't mean that Windows is installed on the hard drive. I think making sure Windows is still installed is the next logical troubleshooting step. Perhaps the partition information can be obtained from the OEM disk or SL disk utility but those methods are not optimized as for instance GParted or Bootit NG are designed for this. EDIT http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/10554...rate-times.html Option Two Using Diskpart http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2083-...eate.html?ltr=S To Create a "System Repair Disc" with a Download NOTE: This option is perfect if you do not have a retail Windows 7 installation DVD and only have a OEM Windows 7 recovery DVD or partition. http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/ “but it's damn-decent of Microsoft to make this available to Windows' users who might not be capable of creating such a thing on their own.” What it does: The Windows 7 Recovery Disc can be used to access a system recovery menu, giving you options of using System Restore, Complete PC Backup, automated system repair, and a command-line prompt for manual advanced recovery. Mulcyber: If this failed, what was the exact error message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulcyber Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 when i f12, it had no response at all. i got myself a windows 7 home premium DVD, the retail version. can i boot into the DVD and upgrade my OS without formatting my osx86 or windows 7 data? Maybe. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-...ir-install.html 1. Start Windows 7, and log on to an administrator account. 2. Disable any 3rd party firewall, antivirus, or other security program to avoid it from possibly preventing the repair in-place upgrade installation of Windows 7. 3. Place your Windows 7 installation DVD into the DVD drive, while still in Windows 7 (Step 1), and click on the Run setup.exe option in the AutoPlay window from within the currently installed Windows 7. http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolsofthetr...up-repair_4.htm. The Repair disk that you can download from Neosmart comes in 32-bit and 64-bit versions. You need to download the .iso that matches what version of Windows you already have installed 32-bit or 64-bit (if your mobo supports 64-bit). The retail disk is needed if you have to do a fresh install and I think both 32-bit and 64-bit versions are supported to install to your drive. The downloadable repair disk cannot install Windows, it is just for repair. However, you can boot to it, (change Bios to boot to CD or DVD), and if done correctly the repair will not destroy your data or overwrite your SL partition. In Windows XP you could also boot from the install cd and then choose the second R (repair) option that followed in the process. I haven't read that this method is available for Windows 7, a non-destructive reinstall of Windows, not the Recovery first R. I'm not sure that your present Windows install is actually sound. But in any case, you should always do a backup of important files before you do anything risky like a Repair install. When a hard drive crashes, sometimes it's not backed up. There are programs that will let you recover files from a bad partition. You get to see the partition structure of your disk and if the files are still there. Two of the best have Trialware: http://www.r-studio.com/ and MiniTool Power Data Recovery Here is a screenshot of the Startup Repair screen for the downloadable Neosmart Repair iso. Sometimes System repair needs to be run 3 times to complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryohei47 Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share Posted January 30, 2011 when i used gparted, it didnt show windows 7, so i guess the installation is gone? also, can i just backup everything in my C drive to an external drive, then clean isntall windows, and throw my data back in? what else can i do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulcyber Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 when i used gparted, it didnt show windows 7, so i guess the installation is gone? also, can i just backup everything in my C drive to an external drive, then clean isntall windows, and throw my data back in? what else can i do Since you are not practiced in using gparted, I suggest you gather some confirming evidence of your findings. So if you were looking in the right place in gparted you should still see your Snow Leopard install occupying partitions. That is, if you can still boot into SL. So make sure you are looking at the right screen. If your Windows partitions have been overwritten by a subsequent SL install, this makes data recovery more complex and difficult. Sometimes data recovery from lost partitions works. So here is a 12 page tutorial that explains what data recovery can do. If your Windows partition are gone why do you think you have a C: drive? http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1139 Here is another url of demo recovery software: http://www.ntfs.com/ Good recovery software costs about $80. And sometimes more than one brand of recovery software is used to recover files. If your windows data is valuable, you should take it to a recovery shop that specializes in retrieving data from hard drives $$$$. You could use this software to get a second opinion that your Windows install is gone if it doesn't report finding any partition and/or files. If you are going to dual boot, buy a second drive. Install SL to the second drive with the first drive unhooked. The unhook the SL drive, and install Windows. Each drive can boot separately from the MBR of each drive. Since you installed Windows last it will boot to Windows. Download Easybcd and add SL to that bootloader. Windows likes to be the primary drive. There used to be issues that Windows would not wake from hibernation unless it was installed and booting from (hd0,0) and I don't know if they have been fixed with RC5. I think the instructions that told you how to install SL should have included a statement about making a backup of valuable files before starting, especially since you were using the same drive. You might want to get a second opinion about recovery software; I think it would take you a lot of reading effort without much guarantee of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Good recovery software costs about $80. Acronis Recovery Expert, part of Acronis Disk Director has always worked very well for me (now I haven't used it in a long time) At the moment it costs $24.99. http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/produ...ery-expert.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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