DaniPoo Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I had {censored} results in Cinebench too: 5.39 - GTX 460 With my old GTS 250 that had native drivers the score was: 32.42 - GTS 250 Works with all resolution, but something is missing with opengl. I get that too. I wonder if its a driver issue. Does anyone else but me experience freezes and crashes? However.. Other that that.. My computer runs well. I played some Wotlk the other day. Had to decrease the view distance to about medium and put the shadows at low. The it was working fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschultz101 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 deleted appleGPUpower kext my GT240 had low cinebench results,... 4.3 fps,... found out it runs underclocked and in idle .... suppose, if you have 2 monitors in DVI, it's ok. after I deleted kext, had to restart -x -f, repair permissions. no in cinebench I get 23fps . also looking for a faster card for my son, playing wow,... right now, rule of thumb,... what works in windows, , you need 2x as fast a card for osx. and since crossfire and sli don't work ( correct me if I'am wrong), that makes it even harder. hmm, and the ATI cards suppose to bring opencl to the table...coreimage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elpibe10 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 deleted appleGPUpower kext ... or just change your smbios.plist back to MacPro3,1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniPoo Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 ... or just change your smbios.plist back to MacPro3,1 Where do I find that file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VultUx Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Where do I find that file? Inside Extra folder. If you dont have the file SMBIOS.PLIST you need to create one with some information. Here my for example: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>SMbiosvendor</key> <string>Apple Inc.</string> <key>SMbiosversion</key> <string>IM111.88Z.0034.B00.0910301727</string> <key>SMbiosdate</key> <string>11/06/2009</string> <key>SMboardmanufacturer</key> <string>Apple Computer, Inc.</string> <key>SMboardproduct</key> <string>Mac-F2268DAE</string> <key>SMmanufacturer</key> <string>Apple Inc.</string> <key>SMfamily</key> <string>MacPro</string> <key>SMproductname</key> <string>MacPro5,1</string> <key>SMserial</key> <string>W88033AKY51</string> <key>SMsystemversion</key> <string>1.0</string> </dict> </plist> @elpibe10 THANK YOU FOR THE TIP! Here the result with MacPro3,1 SMBIOS model, isnt better than what I had with my old GTS 250 and native drivers, but is much better than what I was getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elpibe10 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Where do I find that file? Alternatively, you can download [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] and let it do the job for you if you prefer not manually edit the file yourself : http://www.tonymacx86.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8155 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniPoo Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Inside Extra folder. If you dont have the file SMBIOS.PLIST you need to create one with some information. Here my for example: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>SMbiosvendor</key> <string>Apple Inc.</string> <key>SMbiosversion</key> <string>IM111.88Z.0034.B00.0910301727</string> <key>SMbiosdate</key> <string>11/06/2009</string> <key>SMboardmanufacturer</key> <string>Apple Computer, Inc.</string> <key>SMboardproduct</key> <string>Mac-F2268DAE</string> <key>SMmanufacturer</key> <string>Apple Inc.</string> <key>SMfamily</key> <string>MacPro</string> <key>SMproductname</key> <string>MacPro5,1</string> <key>SMserial</key> <string>W88033AKY51</string> <key>SMsystemversion</key> <string>1.0</string> </dict> </plist> @elpibe10 THANK YOU FOR THE TIP! Here the result with MacPro3,1 SMBIOS model, isnt better than what I had with my old GTS 250 and native drivers, but is much better than what I was getting. The codestring sais MacPro5.1 and not 3.1? Is that a better choice for the gtx460? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elpibe10 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 The codestring sais MacPro5.1 and not 3.1? Is that a better choice for the gtx460? No, it's just as bad as 4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniPoo Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Wow!! changing that one number did the trick! mine was set on 4.1 but now its 3.1 and flying! Thank you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli-uk Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 That sounds really good. But can you be more specific: flying how much? Do you guys think that we can finally say the GTX 460 is fully supported or there's still some way to go? I´m wondering if this is the time to buy the GTX 460. Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeopardise Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 how about OpenCL? Have you test it yet? I heard it isn't supported yet for Fermi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniPoo Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 OpenCL does not seem to work yet. Buy OpenGL does I have been playing WOW WOTLK today with everything except multisampling on max. I put multisampling on x4. And I mostly have over 60fps! if i am going to Silvermoon then I get over a 100fps. Thats pretty nice I think Lets hope that they will release an even better driver soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woukie Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 how about OpenCL? Have you test it yet? I heard it isn't supported yet for Fermi You can tested: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=170796 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschultz101 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 not faster than gts250 !? any faster in games ? cinebench shows the gts460 slower than your old gts250 ,... did you notice in the games, any difference ? Inside Extra folder. If you dont have the file SMBIOS.PLIST you need to create one with some information. Here the result with MacPro3,1 SMBIOS model, isnt better than what I had with my old GTS 250 and native drivers, but is much better than what I was getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniPoo Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Wah.. I just discovered something weird. The graphics are working alright but.. If I got to "About this mac", "More Info..." and then "Graphics/Display" it sais: Unknown nVidia card: "Chipset Model: Unknown nVidia card Type: GPU Bus: PCIe PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 0 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x0e22 Revision ID: 0x00a1 Displays: Display Connector: Status: No Display Connected Philips 190B5: Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888) Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Rotation: Supported" How do I fix this? And Does this affect the performance? of is it just cometic? "VRAM total: 0 MB" does not sounds too good to me :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woukie Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I had only 19 FPS in the Cinebench 11.5. OpenGL Test. Why is this so low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VultUx Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Wah.. I just discovered something weird. The graphics are working alright but..If I got to "About this mac", "More Info..." and then "Graphics/Display" it sais: Unknown nVidia card: "Chipset Model: Unknown nVidia card Type: GPU Bus: PCIe PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 0 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x0e22 Revision ID: 0x00a1 Displays: Display Connector: Status: No Display Connected Philips 190B5: Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888) Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Rotation: Supported" How do I fix this? And Does this affect the performance? of is it just cometic? "VRAM total: 0 MB" does not sounds too good to me :S I think is just cosmetic, but if you want the right information, you could use the ANVAL 5.0.5 boot loader with GraphicsEnabled=Yes (at the moment was removed, but I think Anval you put the files available again when he finish). ANVAL Boot Loader @rschultz101 - is slower than my old GTS with the same CPU clock (3.80 Ghz), take a look at the third position, GTS 250 had 32.42 points, other thing, is just my opinion, but GTX 460 is a top graphic card with alot more resources than a GTS 250, I expected at least 2x faster than GTS 250. Here the OpenCL Information 1 OpenCL platform found! [Platform 0] Name: Apple Vendor: Apple Version: OpenCL 1.0 (Aug 22 2010 18:08:16) Profile: FULL_PROFILE [OpenCL-only Context] 1 OpenCL device found! [Device 0] Name: Intel® Core(tm) i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz Vendor: Intel Type: CPU Device Version: OpenCL 1.0 Driver Version: 1.0 Compute Units: 8 Work Group Size: 1 Clock: 3800 MHz Global Memory (Total): 12288 MB Global Memory (Host): 9216 MB Global Memory (PCIe): 3072 MB Local Memory: 16 KB Cache Size: 8192 KB Cache Line Size: 64 Bytes Available: Yes Double-Precision: Yes Extensions: cl_khr_fp64 cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_byte_addressable_store cl_APPLE_gl_sharing cl_APPLE_SetMemObjectDestructor cl_APPLE_ContextLoggingFunctions [shared OpenCL+OpenGL Context] 1 OpenCL device found! [Device 0] Name: Intel® Core(tm) i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz Vendor: Intel Type: CPU Device Version: OpenCL 1.0 Driver Version: 1.0 Compute Units: 8 Work Group Size: 1 Clock: 3800 MHz Global Memory (Total): 12288 MB Global Memory (Host): 9216 MB Global Memory (PCIe): 3072 MB Local Memory: 16 KB Cache Size: 8192 KB Cache Line Size: 64 Bytes Available: Yes Double-Precision: Yes Extensions: cl_khr_fp64 cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_byte_addressable_store cl_APPLE_gl_sharing cl_APPLE_SetMemObjectDestructor cl_APPLE_ContextLoggingFunctions I did the same test with Cinebench for Windows just for curiosity (see attached file below). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschultz101 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 @vultu by the seat of your pants, is your gtx460 any faster than your gts250 in games ?! benchmarks, do not always reflect that. my GT240 on 3.5ghz quad does 27fps (GT240 fanless, no OC) unless the games actually do play faster / usable , there is no point for me, to gain 3fps in a benchmark.... I'll be happy with my gt240, but my son plays games, wow is choppy , team fortress2 is unplayable even on lower rez. wow on 1080p others: opencl,.... you got only CPU , that's default. think the ATI guys, have openCL,.... handbrake does not use it, but Starfire does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deDante Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I using this guide : Snow Leopard Retail + GTX460 + 10.6.5 Update Combo and my GTX460 work with 33,37 FPS Cinebench Score, but I still have problem with OpenCL, any suggestions??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VultUx Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 @vultu by the seat of your pants, is your gtx460 any faster than your gts250 in games ?! I will test for you, but my old GTS 250 was pretty fast with Team Fortress and similar games from Valve, see attached screen Half Life 1 at 1900x1200 with everything in maximum 60 FPS. I dont have Team Fortress to test, but I tested again with Half Life 2 Episode one (same engine than TF2), 60 FPS at 2560x1600, see screenshot below with FPS in upper right corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 does WoW still crash with the 460? What was the fix to make it no crash? I'm not too interested in getting this card if I have to lower my WoW settings :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAVMAC Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 iAtkos S3 10.6.3 ver.2 was started successfully. Works great, updated to the present day v. 10.6.5 Asus P5E WS Pro Core 2 Duo E8200 2,67 4gb RAM PNY Quadro FX 1800 (FPS 21 turned on Cinebench 11.5) Two monitors 30 "(2560x1600) and 19 (all functions work) HDD SATA 500 GB DVD SATA LAN - Ok! Sound - Ok! PS - also run on this configuration video card Asus GTX 460 1Gb. (Although FPS is very low(17fps), while the decision did not find why) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anheuser Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 does WoW still crash with the 460? What was the fix to make it no crash? I'm not too interested in getting this card if I have to lower my WoW settings :/ I set the slider all the way to Ultra. Set Shader Quality and Liquid Detail to Low. Set Sunshafts to Disabled. Is appears stable. I played around for 15 minutes now with no crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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