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Well, as I am writing this in Vista RTM, it is pretty good. While I could probably point out hundreds of things that they could have improved on, mostly during installation, it is still buggy and preferances they could edit by default.

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It hasn't been cracked though there is a method for replacing certain files which let you activate with keys from 'old' builds.

Well, as I am writing this in Vista RTM, it is pretty good. While I could probably point out hundreds of things that they could have improved on, mostly during installation, it is still buggy and preferances they could edit by default.

What bugs have you found ?

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Mostly graphical issues. Things that don't display right. But WMP is very buggy.

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Does your manufacturer have proper drivers out ? And what type of issues ? Screenshots may help.

How is WMP 'very' buggy ?

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for me, it takes forever to load videos and video play back is slow.

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I have installed and tested this product since Beta 1 up to this RTM, I can safely say that Windows Vista is complete {censored}. Very resource hungry, just look at the specs needed to run this thing in its full potential. This OS will force users to buy new machines to support it. I have un-installed it and I will be sticking to my MacOSX x86 until Mac OS X 10.5 is released then good-bye Microsoft.

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I have installed and tested this product since Beta 1 up to this RTM, I can safely say that Windows Vista is complete {censored}. Very resource hungry, just look at the specs needed to run this thing in its full potential. This OS will force users to buy new machines to support it. I have un-installed it and I will be sticking to my MacOSX x86 until Mac OS X 10.5 is released then good-bye Microsoft.


Well if you want to run OS X 10.5 so badly, why not buy a mac? I await your response. Since then technically you'd be buying a new machine to run that anyways since you don't even have a mac currently. Hypocrite.

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I do have a mac, but not as my main machine. What I mean was, Ill be selling my PC that I was running Vista and buying a Mac as my main machine but I want to wait til Leopard is pre-installed.

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I do have a mac, but not as my main machine. What I mean was, Ill be selling my PC that I was running Vista and buying a Mac as my main machine but I want to wait til Leopard is pre-installed.


Vista for me runs great. If you think of it as resource hungry, the specs to run Leopard are the same as to run Windows Vista. What resources are you complaining about exactly that Vista uses too much of? Give exact specs.

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I feel that if Apple releases Mac to the general public, the would only do it through manufacturers like Dell or Asus. Then it would be up to the companies to collaborate and make drivers to run Mac on their hardware.
Of course, there would be a premium to pay :(

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Vista for me runs great. If you think of it as resource hungry, the specs to run Leopard are the same as to run Windows Vista. What resources are you complaining about exactly that Vista uses too much of? Give exact specs.


The specs are in my sig. Vista runs fine on my pc, but it is resource hungry. Vista runs very poorly on my laptops, one a P4 3.0 HT and the other a Centrino 1.8.

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loukaniko, I recommend you read this though most importantly this (Titled "Vista Mythbusters #1: It’s not a hardware hog") part which details how Vista is not a resource hog.

You say (Which amusingly enough is basically what the myth is):

Very resource hungry, just look at the specs needed to run this thing in its full potential. This OS will force users to buy new machines to support it.

Which is not true, here is a quote from the afore linked page:

Most mid-range and high-end computers sold in the past three years will run Windows Vista just fine.



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robotskip, I don't want to pick a fight, but have you even installed Vista, and didn't anyone ever tell you, Don't believe everything you read :angel:

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Yes, I have used tons of builds over the past ~ years.

If I am not to believe everything I read, would it not be logical to believe an article from a respected tech author who posts on a well known site like ZDNet, or some anonymous kid on a forum who swears and provides no [or little] backing to his/her arguments ? :angel:

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You could just open up task manager and see how bloated it is yourself :angel:

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.. because task manager is a good indication of the state of code.

Are you going to answer my question as to who you would believe ? I'll say it a bit differently; would you rather believe a bum telling you about a tech product, or someone who works in a computer store whose comments are upheld by many ? Personally, I'd go with the guy in the computer store, but that's just me [and probably 99% of everyone else ..].

Also, did you read what I linked to ? It says/shows how it isn't bloated and does not need brand new hardware to run on.

Don't try to disprove/counter what I'm saying, do it towards that article. I'd like to see someone counter that. /grabs popcorn

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Dude, I'm done.

I believe my own experience's :(

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Fair enough. For the record, I'm believing the guy in the computer store [who has logic and strong backing] coupled with my own experiences and not the bum [who has.. nothing, besides eloquent anecdotal evidence :P]. :(

Have fun. :)

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i prefer to use winxp...i dnt want spend so much money on a {censored}

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I think Windows Vista will be a big failure and Bill knows it will be, too. He left Microsoft before Vista was release because he didn't want to take most of the blame when Vista turns out to be less stable and more buggier than Win 98 was. I predict that Vista will fail, and when it doesn, Apple will take it's marketshare, and all will be good.

I don't think so.

Only until Apple decides to make OS X compatible with (nearly) all hardware supported by Windows, we can kiss that dream goodbye.

Plus that means Apple has to mass-distribute copies of OS X not only by DVD but through other computer manufacturers like Dell and HP, who are direct competitors to Apple in terms of hardware. Which means Apple would also have to lower the costs of their hardware, forcing a lower quality, too.

Plus, if they make OS X as distributable as Windows is, Apple will have to fight piracy like MS does.
Not to mention, if OS X becomes as big as Windows is, we're going to see a {censored}load of viruses.

Until then, the vast majority of people are not going to reach into their pockets to buy Apple's overpriced hardware.

And that's why I don't think Vista will fail. People acted like there was too much of a hardware jump when XP came out, too. (Remember? 128MB of RAM MINIMUM?!?! It was bizarre back in 2001, especially users still on 98.)





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