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Any help? I just want to know how i use my backup from extensions!

Have anyone tried the x600 mobility? If someone have, please let me know!


Furthermore, I have maybe found wrong Device ID. I think thats why i didn't got things working. Could some in the Forum post the right Dev.ID (that would be very kind of you)

Edited by radan, 02 January 2007 - 01:21 PM.


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See post #3 for how to restore from the backup.

As for the device ID, you'll need to figure that out on your own...it's not neccessarily specific to the series/model number of a card.

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Thank you for answer, phoenix3200.

It seems that the b008 version is not working for my GPU. So i tried B006, but haven't managed to get it boot. But before i go ahead with the backup instructions, i will try "repair disk permissions"

What do you think?

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I would suggest b003fixed for a mobile x600 :D

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See post #3 for how to restore from the backup.

As for the device ID, you'll need to figure that out on your own...it's not neccessarily specific to the series/model number of a card.




I ran the -s cmd but it seems nothing is done.


See my Screenshot


First i typed -s.

The pictures are placed chronologic

Then typed in this (picture one)

Clicked enter and a text was showed below (picture two)

Since nothing occured, i tried to type in the last halfpart (picture three) but got the message: No such file or directory... :D

Attached Files


Edited by radan, 07 January 2007 - 03:50 PM.


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I would suggest b003fixed for a mobile x600 ;)



Thank you! Will try!

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Hey Everyone,
maybe someone can help me to activated QE/CI my radeon 9550/256 mb/AGP on Jas 10.4.7??
please give me step by step procedure..
thankyou very much....
i'm really waiting.........

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alfjr_ks, you need the IONDRVSupport.kext and ATINDRV.kext from 10.4.5 to get support in 4.7

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First off, you have to use a separate line for each command. It looks like you figured that out.

Next, if you want to verify that Callisto isn't in the extensions folder, do the following under single user mode:

/sbin/mount -uw /
cd /system/library/extensions
ls callist*
You should see two things, Callisto.kext and CallistoHAL.kext, if you installed Callisto. If so,

rm -R callist*
The next set of steps will probably fix your problems. It sounds like a problem with ATIRadeon9700.kext and not Callisto.

cp -R /System/Library/ExtensionsBackup/ATI* /System/Library/Extensions/ <To restore ATI kexts>
rm /System/Library/Extensions.mkext
rm /System/Library/Extensions.kextcache
reboot


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First off, you have to use a separate line for each command. It looks like you figured that out.

Next, if you want to verify that Callisto isn't in the extensions folder, do the following under single user mode:

/sbin/mount -uw /
cd /system/library/extensions
ls callist*
You should see two things, Callisto.kext and CallistoHAL.kext, if you installed Callisto. If so,

rm -R callist*
The next set of steps will probably fix your problems. It sounds like a problem with ATIRadeon9700.kext and not Callisto.

cp -R /System/Library/ExtensionsBackup/ATI* /System/Library/Extensions/ <To restore ATI kexts>
rm /System/Library/Extensions.mkext
rm /System/Library/Extensions.kextcache
reboot

Ive gotten some help from a friend of mine whos a bit more into Linux/UNIX.

Youre suggesting I remove Callisto?

Also, heres the system log, when trying to boot with b006: http://rafb.net/p/eBqgix84.html

Checked the the extensions loaded (in System Profiler) with both b003_fixed and b006, and Callisto didnt show up.

Also, how is the IOPCIMatch supposed to look? The PCI ID is 0x3150, and the string is like the following after editing: 0x31501002&amp;0xffffffff.

I will try again with Callisto b003_fixed.

Edit:
Still nothing. Could someone give a list of their extensions. Would be very kind, so i can compare.

Edited by radan, 08 January 2007 - 08:05 PM.


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I've been working on this with an ATI x850 PCI-E for months now. The farthest I've ever gotten is a black garbled screen. Can any of you who said you had success with this card help me out? I'm running 10.4.8 now.

The only thing I haven't tried is running older kexts: do I need 10.4.5 versions of IONDRVSupport.kext and ATINDRV.kext? Is this everybody's secret? Is there any more to it than that? Any help would be appreciated.

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I've been working on this with an ATI x850 PCI-E for months now. The farthest I've ever gotten is a black garbled screen. Can any of you who said you had success with this card help me out? I'm running 10.4.8 now.

The only thing I haven't tried is running older kexts: do I need 10.4.5 versions of IONDRVSupport.kext and ATINDRV.kext? Is this everybody's secret? Is there any more to it than that? Any help would be appreciated.

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you, except I've got a built by ATI, Radeon x850xt AGP. I've tried this multiple times, and the furthest I've gotten was a garbled/artifacted patchwork at boot. It's really annoying too, since for some reason I can only boot off of the Install DVD to fix problems (let it time out and it boots from my HD, but it won't boot directly). I can't for the life of me get a the darwin bootloader to take to my hard drive.

So yeah, I'll go on record saying this guide WILL NOT WORK with 10.4.8 ATI kexts. You'll likely need the complete 10.4.4/5 ATI*.kext set, as the instructions in this guide indicate. I'm going to attempt this as soon as I finish cloning my current drive setup... since it's quicker for me to reimage the drive than it is to boot off the osx install dvd, fire up the terminal, and restore kexts and delete caches.

Its really a bugger. This video accelleration thing and the boot loader thing are the only 2 problems holding OSX back from being a viable OS for me.

Edited by pureevilmatt, 10 January 2007 - 06:28 PM.


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I'm pretty much in the same boat as you, except I've got a built by ATI, Radeon x850xt AGP. I've tried this multiple times, and the furthest I've gotten was a garbled/artifacted patchwork at boot. It's really annoying too, since for some reason I can only boot off of the Install DVD to fix problems (let it time out and it boots from my HD, but it won't boot directly). I can't for the life of me get a the darwin bootloader to take to my hard drive.

So yeah, I'll go on record saying this guide WILL NOT WORK with 10.4.8 ATI kexts. You'll likely need the complete 10.4.4/5 ATI*.kext set, as the instructions in this guide indicate. I'm going to attempt this as soon as I finish cloning my current drive setup... since it's quicker for me to reimage the drive than it is to boot off the osx install dvd, fire up the terminal, and restore kexts and delete caches.

Its really a bugger. This video accelleration thing and the boot loader thing are the only 2 problems holding OSX back from being a viable OS for me.

Well, I did the procedure with the 10.4.4 kexts, and got a black screen with mouse cursor... i could use hotkeys to launch things, my hot corners were working, but the screen was black with the exception of the cursor. This is with both Callisto 6 and 8. Should I maybe try skipping the step with the callistoFB? or could this be some problem with me specifying a resolution in com.apple.boot.plist?

I wouldn't mind this so much, but every time I screw up, it takes like 15 minutes to boot off of the DVD, get to a working terminal so I can correct the errors. Maybe I should solve this bootloader problem first, would certainly be less frustrating. I suppose I'll try the 10.4.5 set of kexts tomorrow and see if that works.

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pureevilmatt. I tried the 10.4.5 kexts and have the same problem as you. Black screen with mouse cursor. I haven't tried without the CallistoFB line yet, and I'm not sure if I'm gonna bother. The strange this is I've heard some people report that my card is working, same device ID and everything. Maybe there are different revisions or something.. who knows. I've pretty much give up though, sadly, at least for a while. So much for OpenGL, I'll have to just get a cheap nVidia card.

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I wouldn't mind this so much, but every time I screw up, it takes like 15 minutes to boot off of the DVD, get to a working terminal so I can correct the errors.


Since this is all a hack and you will always have to screw around with something, try keeping two installs, one can be full time and good size and the other could be as small as 5 gigs, I would suggest at least 10 but you get the point. Then you can easily boot to the other install and fix or change what ever is needed.

I have no problems with agp x800xt aiw on SSE2 AMD FINAL, but I'm not using Callisto and I did swap 4.5 ATI kexts.

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pureevilmatt. I tried the 10.4.5 kexts and have the same problem as you. Black screen with mouse cursor. I haven't tried without the CallistoFB line yet, and I'm not sure if I'm gonna bother. The strange this is I've heard some people report that my card is working, same device ID and everything. Maybe there are different revisions or something.. who knows. I've pretty much give up though, sadly, at least for a while. So much for OpenGL, I'll have to just get a cheap nVidia card.


Well, I finally figured it out. I realized it probably wasn't a problem with the callistoFB or my com.apple.boot.plist since I was seeing the mouse cursor, and I wasn't getting any kext errors, and I was still having the problem, so I realized it was something to do with either quartz or core image. So, I searched the forums for +radeon +x850* +quartz and stumbled upon this thread: http://forum.insanel... x850* quartz . The post by ffosilva is the post the golden nugget that led me to figure out these VITAL steps:

0) I followed this thread's guide using the 10.4.4 ATI* kexts, but stopped before doing the last step of modding the ATIRadeon9700.kext, with my device ID.
1) I extracted OpenGL.framework, Quartz.framework, and QuartsCore.framework from the 10.4.4 installation DVD using pacifist.
2) I backed up, then trashed the 10.4.8 counterparts from the /system/library/frameworks/ folder, and then copied the 10.4.4 versions into that folder.
3) Rebooted to no errors. Verified running versions of the frameworks in system profiler. Emptied Trash.
4) I the proceeded with modding the ATIRadeon9700.kext, then copying it into the extensions folder.
5) Loaded the kext to make sure there were no errors: sudo kextload /System/Library/Extensions/ATIRadeon9700.kext
6) Repaired permissions on the drive using Disk Utility.
7) Touched the extensions folder to stimulate rebuilding of the kextchaches: sudo touch /system/library/extensions
8) Rebooted to no errors.
9) Fired up system profiler, was greeted with this happy sight:

Radeon X850 XT PE (AGP):

Chipset Model: Radeon X850 XT PE (AGP)
Type: Display
Bus: PCI
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x4b49
Revision ID: 0x0000
Displays:
Display:
Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported


I'm not sure if the key was matching the 10.4.4 kexts with the 10.4.4 frameworks, or if it was just the frameworks that were needed. Either way, I am now accelerated, and I'm gonna give it a break for a while before I see if I can get dual monitor extended desktop working. I don't appear to get any mouse tearing that everyone else seems to be reporting. Everything appears to be working smooth and great. I'm fairly certain that the above will work for you. Good luck!

Edited by pureevilmatt, 12 January 2007 - 09:34 AM.


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Could somebody please help me? ;) see #131

A big help, would be a screenshot or a list of the contents in the extensions folder

Just wonder about this.
When i installed Jas 10.4.6 i hooked for "ATI Mobility Grahpics Driver" I havent tried installing Callisto without this option, but could it make a necessary change?

Edited by radan, 14 January 2007 - 12:42 PM.


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So, i need OpenGL.framework, Quartz.framework, and QuartsCore.framework from 10.4.4, replace them in 10.4.8 for this to work?

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Great tutorial Phoenix3200 - thanks!

Unfortunately I cannot get anywhere when it comes to enabling the QE/CI. :(

My card is an X850 PRO (Device ID 4b4b), and I have almost come to the end of my patience, which seems a shame as I have put in so much work! I have tried everything I can think of, and at the moment what is happening is that the spinning wheel under the Apple logo spins for about 20 seconds, with the hard drive working, and then everything just stops. However, if I boot -x (safe boot) It boots fine, but with no QE/CI.

With callisto only everything works fine, System Profiler tells me all the correct information and I can change resolutions.
I am running JaS 10.4.8 w/ 8.8.1 Semthex kernels and 10.4.5 Radeon9700 kexts.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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So, i need OpenGL.framework, Quartz.framework, and QuartsCore.framework from 10.4.4, replace them in 10.4.8 for this to work?

That's what did the trick for me, along with the 10.4.4 ATI*.kexts

Great tutorial Phoenix3200 - thanks!

Unfortunately I cannot get anywhere when it comes to enabling the QE/CI. :(

My card is an X850 PRO (Device ID 4b4b), and I have almost come to the end of my patience, which seems a shame as I have put in so much work! I have tried everything I can think of, and at the moment what is happening is that the spinning wheel under the Apple logo spins for about 20 seconds, with the hard drive working, and then everything just stops. However, if I boot -x (safe boot) It boots fine, but with no QE/CI.

With callisto only everything works fine, System Profiler tells me all the correct information and I can change resolutions.
I am running JaS 10.4.8 w/ 8.8.1 Semthex kernels and 10.4.5 Radeon9700 kexts.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Try matching the OpenGL.framework, Quartz.framework, and QuartsCore.framework from 10.4.5 with your 10.4.5 kexts. If that doesn't work, you'll probably have to get ahold of a 10.4.4 install and use those as per my previous post in this thread. Your card is very similar to mine, you should be able to get full accelleration.





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