Attil@ Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I've found a great circuit on the net that can play back WAV data from an EEPROM. I've got the idea to make a Mac-styled start-up chime player for my PC. I recorded the chime from my old PowerMac 8500 and did all the editing. It's ready to be programmed into the EEPROM, what I cannibalized from a broken P2 MoBo. I'll tell more details when it will be finished, because I can't make a PCB and program the EEPROM at home, only at my friend, but he will have time for me on monday or tuesday. Are you interested in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireshark Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 How will u tell the comp to tell the circuit to play it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdprophet Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 I'm interested although I would want a different WAV file to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attil@ Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 When the power goes on, the circuit plays the sound. In this state I have the drawing it will play looped, so I'll need some timing circuit or something similar. amdprophet: Yes, you can play an other sound, but it has to be mono 8-bit PCM raw data regardless to the sampling rate. But it has to fit in the EEPROM. I used the 16kHz sampling rate and the whole thing fits into 54KB. I just have to hack my BIOS to show an Apple bootscreen now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Attil@, perhaps you would interested in working on EFI? I think you could implement the start-up chime purely in software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i1sam Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 When the power goes on, the circuit plays the sound. In this state I have the drawing it will play looped, so I'll need some timing circuit or something similar. amdprophet: Yes, you can play an other sound, but it has to be mono 8-bit PCM raw data regardless to the sampling rate. But it has to fit in the EEPROM. I used the 16kHz sampling rate and the whole thing fits into 54KB. I just have to hack my BIOS to show an Apple bootscreen now hi... do you have a success now on the bios bootscreen to show Apple Logo??... sorry you started this... i also started a thread asking this... i wanted also to change the acer logo of my lappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attil@ Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 The circuit is designed, but I won't publish it till I haven't tested it. This is because I don't want to put here a non-working thing. bofors: No, thanks. I am an electronics hobbyist. I can't program very well. i1sam: it was just an idea. Old IBM computers (300GL series) had an option while flashing BIOS to change the startup screen. But I didn't see this thing since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i1sam Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 The circuit is designed, but I won't publish it till I haven't tested it. This is because I don't want to put here a non-working thing.bofors: No, thanks. I am an electronics hobbyist. I can't program very well. i1sam: it was just an idea. Old IBM computers (300GL series) had an option while flashing BIOS to change the startup screen. But I didn't see this thing since then. THANKS for the quick reply attil@... i know intel board has this utility to custom thier flash screen bios.. i dont know if bofor already done this... its supported to newer and some older intel board... i just did not tried it yet on my intel board d945gnt... i just hoping a general appz... hope acer has the same(i dont have high hopes since their are OEM).... thanks again... ill be following up your success on the chime bootup... GOODLUCK Attil@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 i know intel board has this utility to custom thier flash screen bios.. i dont know if bofor already done this... its supported to newer and some older intel board... i just did not tried it yet on my intel board d945gnt... I have had not tried this yet, but I know you are talking about. It is a feature of Intel's Integrator Tool Kit (ITK), it lets you customize the BIOS splashscreen. http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/itk.htm But I doubt it will work on an MSI board. Some people might know how to work with that board on at Wim's BIOS forum: http://www.wimsbios.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i1sam Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I have had not tried this yet, but I know you are talking about. It is a feature of Intel's Integrator Tool Kit (ITK), it lets you customize the BIOS splashscreen. http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/itk.htm But I doubt it will work on an MSI board. Some people might know how to work with that board on at Wim's BIOS forum: http://www.wimsbios.com/ thanks a lot bofor... i been following all your thread.. (got my mobo same as yours.. except those 2 dell lcd... wow i love those)... will try the link now.. Attil@... ill be watching the devt of your chime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attil@ Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 OK... I bought the parts for the project and the PCB drawings are ready too! I think it will be ready tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiterat Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I just came accross this thread, and boy am I impressed at the level of ingenuity going into this project! I remember the old knockoff macs back in the day, I reckon its going to happen all over again now, but this time 10x better Im just going to sit back and admire the masters at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdprophet Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I've been sitting back, but I'm interested in helping out so I've been researching a lot. I hope this boot-up chime mod works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attil@ Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 I'm going to make the PCB now. It's all prepared, so I'll inform you today if it's working, but it should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrupted Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 This sounds like a really neat little project. Please tell us your results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attil@ Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 OK... I'm exposing the bottom side now. Then comes the top side and I'll etch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdprophet Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Are you using etching acid? If so, do you know where I could buy some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attil@ Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 I'm etching with ferrous chloride... and my friend had some... But I think I'll make an other board (single sided), because the routes are very thin on one side and I have a lot of work to correct them (they are interrupted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attil@ Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 OK, I'm gonna release the schematic and the prepared EEPROM file. There are 3 files in the ZIP archive: schematic.png - the schematic drawn in Eagle 4.16. If you are interested in the Eagle files, write me. macchime.bin - the chime sampled at 16kHz, for 512kbit EEPROMs macchime128k.bin - same as macchime.bin, but padded with silence to fill a 1Mbit EEPROM (that I use) RENEMBER! You are giong to build this project at your own responsibility! I am not responsible for any damage caused by this circuit! PS: the chime is sampled from my Power Macintosh 8500/180 macchime.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 would it be possible to get a copy of the startup chime wav file you made and if someone could post the splash screen that we would use for our bios as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I called A-Bit and they said that changing the startup screen is not supported but is possible... would involve knowing how to change the bios. I have no clue but I do have a copy of my BIOs that I dled.. kv8p24.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
node64 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 for startup screen u could use an app called cbrom here is a guide http://www.logan.eclipse.co.uk/how%20to%20mod%20a%20bios.htm i did this to an old socket a board a few years ago. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attil@ Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 It's in the ZIP. You just have to rename macchime.bin to macchime.pcm and import it with an audio editing software, that can import raw PCM data. Then it should ask for the sampling rate, bit-depth and stereo /ono. It's sampled at 16kHz, 8-bit, mono. Also, I have a 16-bit version... ...and about the BIOS screen: sorry, I can't help for startup screen u could use an app called cbrom here is a guide http://www.logan.eclipse.co.uk/how%20to%20mod%20a%20bios.htm i did this to an old socket a board a few years ago. good luck That just changes the EPA logo not the full screen, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan_cl Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Hi, i dont get how to put the chime when the computer starts, help me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Force Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 would it be possible to get a copy of the startup chime wav file you made http://tcp.com/~dschaub/sound.html Many sounds here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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