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Hey mates,

 

Is it just me, or is everybody noticing, that there are no new releases anymore etc.?

 

 

 

A while ago, there was XxX, iPC, LawlessPPC, iDeneb, Zephyroth, JaS, iATKOS, Leo4All, Kalyway etc...

 

 

 

But now? There is only iDeneb 1.5.1 and iATKOS v7 - iDeneb is not working for me and iATKOS is working, but with problems...

 

Earlier, we could choose what release to install...

 

 

 

Why do only a few people publish new releases in these days?

 

I don't want to go too far, but: Is OSx86 dieing?

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Hey mates,

 

Is it just me, or is everybody noticing, that there are no new releases anymore etc.?

 

 

 

A while ago, there was XxX, iPC, LawlessPPC, iDeneb, Zephyroth, JaS, iATKOS, Leo4All, Kalyway etc...

 

 

 

But now? There is only iDeneb 1.5.1 and iATKOS v7 - iDeneb is not working for me and iATKOS is working, but with problems...

 

Earlier, we could choose what release to install...

 

 

 

Why do only a few people publish new releases in these days?

 

I don't want to go too far, but: Is OSx86 dieing?

Not dying. Growing up. Why bother with a new release when going vanilla is much easier these days?

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Because it seems to me, the problems are not fixable.

 

main-problems:

1. I ran a dual-boot Windows 7 and iATKOS v7 via BootThink. But iATKOS needed 5-10 minutes to boot. (It shows the apple-screen for 1-2 minutes, then a black-screen for 5 minutes and then a light-blue screen for 2-5 seconds before I can see the desktop)

 

2. I have a Netgear WG111v2 (that uses a Realtek RTL8187L-Chipset). It was working with every Leopard-install so far. But not with iATKOS :gun:

 

 

I tried iDeneb 1.5.1, but there, the installation restarts at 2/3... :(

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You don't need Intel for retail, AMD works fine with the Voodoo Kernel, and should with any of the variations thereof.

 

Stupidity and misinformation like "Intel required for Retail", and "one click fix all" idiocy like OSx86Tools /UInstaller promote ignorance and do not foster proper learning.

 

This is much in the same way "Distros" do (which is really also a bad way to call hacked/pre-patched dvds, this isn't Linux, these are not proper "distributions").

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Why do only a few people publish new releases in these days?

 

I don't want to go too far, but: Is OSx86 dieing?

 

SN is just around the corner. Why waste all energy when we are going to switch to that?

Scenes like this will come and go in waves with Operating systems released. Same for Windows 7.

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after 10.5.5 it became a lot harder to make because of driver changes dsdt patching ect ect

Second the old distros are well document great to use

third a Higer number is not always better!

I personaly know of tons of machine's that don't work with iatkos 10.5.7!

but with lawlessPCC 10.5.4 AMD's will install. why is that?

forth 10.5.6/7/8 brings not many benefits for the average user only trouble so why bother?

fifth 132 boot is gaining in popularity there are a lot of people doing that

SiX look its not that simple to make a distro a ton of work goes in to it. 10.5.7 and 8 are real dogs if your a hack user there is not mutch to gain from it and Snow Leopard is coming out soon many of the brite minds are focusing on that.

 

I re-re-least a new version Of Iportable universal AMD/intel, it included tons of new drivers.

Why use it at 10.5.4. Because i know it works well and problems are well documented. I could easily update it to 10.5.8 , but i know my computer will not work with it because of usb problems I could fix that but it could lead to other problems and that to other unforeseen problems. because you have to take in account that you have to support as many machines as possible . so you make a stable disto And if people want a higher number they can upgrade it them self's.

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A lot of OSx86 is legal gray area.

 

It's against Apple's license to run Mac OS X on anything but Apple hardware. So you're already breaking the EULA of the OS.

 

And many of these "distros" are nothing more than pirated copies of Mac OS X that people are getting from torrent sites.

 

Yes, the modifications, hacking, and additions are noble things, but it is being done with something shady, and that slows progress.

 

In time, I'm sure things will get better, it's just a rough road right now.

 

Best case scenario, you use your legit Apple OS X DVD, paired with an EFI boot disc and patcher (and not one of the common distributions).

 

Sound is one issue I've had with my system. Patching AppleHDA.kext and doing it over again with each update is a headache, but there are projects like VoodooHDA in the works that should take care of that issue.

 

If you have AMD or something else not supported by the Vanilla kernel, save a few bucks when you can and switch to Intel. Gigabyte has a nice Intel board for about $53 shipped. You can get a great Dual Core Intel CPU (E5200) for around $65. If you can bring over most of your other hardware (DDR2 RAM, PCIE video, etc), that means you are that much closer to a functional (and easier to set up) Hackintosh for less than $120.

 

If you can save a bit more, keep in mind that you can buy a real Apple computer for $600. 64-bit Intel Dual Core with an NVidia video card. You'll want to upgrade the RAM on it (Newegg), but then it will be able to run 10.5 or 10.6 well, and play some games.

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Retail DVD

Chameleon

handful of kexts in /Extra

 

What more do you need? I mean, it's a very simple process at this point.

 

"Releases" aren't needed anymore.

Simple?

 

Is it possible to install a Retail without being a hardcore Unix geek who lives inside the Terminal?

 

Distros are great for people who aren't familiar with command line and Unix architecture, because there's no point in copy/pasting a bunch of commands from some tutorial if you don't know exactly what each one of those commands do, imho better install from a distro instead.

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Simple?

 

Is it possible to install a Retail without being a hardcore Unix geek who lives inside the Terminal?

 

Distros are great for people who aren't familiar with command line and Unix architecture, because there's no point in copy/pasting a bunch of commands from some tutorial if you don't know exactly what each one of those commands do, imho better install from a distro instead.

 

You can make full retail installation without ever typing a single line in the terminal.

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