Hecke92 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Hey mates, Is it just me, or is everybody noticing, that there are no new releases anymore etc.? A while ago, there was XxX, iPC, LawlessPPC, iDeneb, Zephyroth, JaS, iATKOS, Leo4All, Kalyway etc... But now? There is only iDeneb 1.5.1 and iATKOS v7 - iDeneb is not working for me and iATKOS is working, but with problems... Earlier, we could choose what release to install... Why do only a few people publish new releases in these days? I don't want to go too far, but: Is OSx86 dieing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniHack Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Hey mates, Is it just me, or is everybody noticing, that there are no new releases anymore etc.? A while ago, there was XxX, iPC, LawlessPPC, iDeneb, Zephyroth, JaS, iATKOS, Leo4All, Kalyway etc... But now? There is only iDeneb 1.5.1 and iATKOS v7 - iDeneb is not working for me and iATKOS is working, but with problems... Earlier, we could choose what release to install... Why do only a few people publish new releases in these days? I don't want to go too far, but: Is OSx86 dieing? Not dying. Growing up. Why bother with a new release when going vanilla is much easier these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecke92 Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 Because vanilla is Intel only and I am running an AMD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_Dude Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 If iAtkos is working with problems , why not use it an fix problems. Sounds hard tough , but once you figured out what u need you dont need a specific distro. Thats what I did , even I`m on Intel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecke92 Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 Because it seems to me, the problems are not fixable. main-problems: 1. I ran a dual-boot Windows 7 and iATKOS v7 via BootThink. But iATKOS needed 5-10 minutes to boot. (It shows the apple-screen for 1-2 minutes, then a black-screen for 5 minutes and then a light-blue screen for 2-5 seconds before I can see the desktop) 2. I have a Netgear WG111v2 (that uses a Realtek RTL8187L-Chipset). It was working with every Leopard-install so far. But not with iATKOS I tried iDeneb 1.5.1, but there, the installation restarts at 2/3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiqu Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Because vanilla is Intel only and I am running an AMD... You should switch to Intel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecke92 Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 I will, if I would have the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_Dude Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 to 1: do a boot with -v , so you can see/read whats goin on during boot. for 2 : check this -> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downlo...;Downloads=true or extract the kext from the distros you said it were working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcacius Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 OSx86 died when distros like kalyway started coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_Dude Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 and .......... a usb wifi isnt too much , so if its just the wireless ..... get a new USB Wireless adaptor and have to agree with the others here , get an Intel ....get a Retail OSX and enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmcnano Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 You can install retail with amd ¬¬ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wils Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I don't need new distro. what I need is a new kernel that runs AMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realityiswhere Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 You don't need Intel for retail, AMD works fine with the Voodoo Kernel, and should with any of the variations thereof. Stupidity and misinformation like "Intel required for Retail", and "one click fix all" idiocy like OSx86Tools /UInstaller promote ignorance and do not foster proper learning. This is much in the same way "Distros" do (which is really also a bad way to call hacked/pre-patched dvds, this isn't Linux, these are not proper "distributions"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatDeceiver Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Why do only a few people publish new releases in these days? I don't want to go too far, but: Is OSx86 dieing? SN is just around the corner. Why waste all energy when we are going to switch to that? Scenes like this will come and go in waves with Operating systems released. Same for Windows 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candykane Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 after 10.5.5 it became a lot harder to make because of driver changes dsdt patching ect ect Second the old distros are well document great to use third a Higer number is not always better! I personaly know of tons of machine's that don't work with iatkos 10.5.7! but with lawlessPCC 10.5.4 AMD's will install. why is that? forth 10.5.6/7/8 brings not many benefits for the average user only trouble so why bother? fifth 132 boot is gaining in popularity there are a lot of people doing that SiX look its not that simple to make a distro a ton of work goes in to it. 10.5.7 and 8 are real dogs if your a hack user there is not mutch to gain from it and Snow Leopard is coming out soon many of the brite minds are focusing on that. I re-re-least a new version Of Iportable universal AMD/intel, it included tons of new drivers. Why use it at 10.5.4. Because i know it works well and problems are well documented. I could easily update it to 10.5.8 , but i know my computer will not work with it because of usb problems I could fix that but it could lead to other problems and that to other unforeseen problems. because you have to take in account that you have to support as many machines as possible . so you make a stable disto And if people want a higher number they can upgrade it them self's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecke92 Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 Wow, SnowLeopard comes out in 20 days!? Then I really understand it ... now I cannot wait anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple apple Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I think the developers have done a great job. I don't see that much of a difference between the 10.5.6 that I'm using now and the 10.5.8 at the Apple store. I think maybe I'll just be patient and happy with a well working machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 The releases only have extra patches for osx86 platforms. Most of them you can find and apply yourself. They just make it easier for people, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonfilio Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Because vanilla is Intel only and I am running an AMD... You don't need distros now that you can install vanilla on AMD (boot132 w/ a Voodoo/AMD-capable kernel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenomorph.NET Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 A lot of OSx86 is legal gray area. It's against Apple's license to run Mac OS X on anything but Apple hardware. So you're already breaking the EULA of the OS. And many of these "distros" are nothing more than pirated copies of Mac OS X that people are getting from torrent sites. Yes, the modifications, hacking, and additions are noble things, but it is being done with something shady, and that slows progress. In time, I'm sure things will get better, it's just a rough road right now. Best case scenario, you use your legit Apple OS X DVD, paired with an EFI boot disc and patcher (and not one of the common distributions). Sound is one issue I've had with my system. Patching AppleHDA.kext and doing it over again with each update is a headache, but there are projects like VoodooHDA in the works that should take care of that issue. If you have AMD or something else not supported by the Vanilla kernel, save a few bucks when you can and switch to Intel. Gigabyte has a nice Intel board for about $53 shipped. You can get a great Dual Core Intel CPU (E5200) for around $65. If you can bring over most of your other hardware (DDR2 RAM, PCIE video, etc), that means you are that much closer to a functional (and easier to set up) Hackintosh for less than $120. If you can save a bit more, keep in mind that you can buy a real Apple computer for $600. 64-bit Intel Dual Core with an NVidia video card. You'll want to upgrade the RAM on it (Newegg), but then it will be able to run 10.5 or 10.6 well, and play some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_Dude Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Kahuna Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Retail DVD Chameleon handful of kexts in /Extra What more do you need? I mean, it's a very simple process at this point. "Releases" aren't needed anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooD Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Vanilla is the way to go. There is no point in using distros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XLR Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Retail DVDChameleon handful of kexts in /Extra What more do you need? I mean, it's a very simple process at this point. "Releases" aren't needed anymore. Simple? Is it possible to install a Retail without being a hardcore Unix geek who lives inside the Terminal? Distros are great for people who aren't familiar with command line and Unix architecture, because there's no point in copy/pasting a bunch of commands from some tutorial if you don't know exactly what each one of those commands do, imho better install from a distro instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooD Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Simple? Is it possible to install a Retail without being a hardcore Unix geek who lives inside the Terminal? Distros are great for people who aren't familiar with command line and Unix architecture, because there's no point in copy/pasting a bunch of commands from some tutorial if you don't know exactly what each one of those commands do, imho better install from a distro instead. You can make full retail installation without ever typing a single line in the terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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