Installing Tiger x86 on SSE3 intel 4 processor

[Madcoaster]

Hello everyone,

 

My name is Madcoaster and i am a new member to this forum.

I am a newbie to the scene but knew about it along time ago.

 

I have always put off installing tiger on my pc,

but i finally want to do it!.

 

And thats were you can help me out,

 

i have read alot on the wiki pages, and read alot of walktroughs,

but they all are different and complex.

 

I checked my Computer configuration and i have a Pentium 4 3.20 ghz with hypertheating,

and 1 gig of ram. After checking it is "SSE3" compatible.

 

Could you guys tell me wich guide to use?

And alsaw will it work for 99 % like a real mac would work?

I mean will i be able to run Tiger like it would run on a powermac with all the features,

run the appications like FCP,After Effects,...

cause i cant find if it is GUI supporter

 

Ohh and i alsaw read that you wont be able to upgrade itunes, is this alsaw

the case for SSE3 processors ?

 

Thanks in advance !

 

With best regards,

 

Madcoaster

[sam_the_killer]

Go with the latest release of Mac OS X i.e. 10.4.6 and u have the max of mac.

this version has far more stability for PowerPC apps than its predecessor.

 

As the version is the latest, u might get most threads related with it.

[Madcoaster]

hé Sam,

 

thanks for the quick reply !

 

So will install be easier for me?

Do you know a walk trough for this install ?

There are so many ones around, just can't seem to find the best one.

 

thanks again !

 

greets

 

Madcoaster

[Colonel]

This guide should probably work best for you. Try it out and let us know how it goes.

 

http://www.nedprod.com/Niall_stuff/MacOS X/index.html

[Madcoaster]

Hé thanks Colonels1020,

 

im going to look in to this one !!

 

thanks

 

just one question is it possible to install the 10.4.4 version and then upgrade?

 

cause the 10.4.4 is easyer to find

 

I would like to get some clear info on the update section, cause what i hear is that you can't update without damaging your install ?

 

thanks again!

 

Madcoaster

[Colonel]

It is possible to upgrade a 10.4.4 install to a 10.4.6 install. It is just easier to download and install an already updated version. If you wanted to upgrade your 10.4.4 install, you would have to download the installer patches from maxxuss' website. To find out his instructions on how to upgrade and install, just google "Maxxuss"

[Madcoaster]

Hé thanks colones

 

I think that i will go for a 10.4.6 version,

 

but to be honest, the walktrough you gave me,

seems difficult, are there no easyer ways of doing this ?

 

and alsaw in his tutorial he stated that it does not run at full speed,

is this something that i should expect ? Cause i really want to use Tiger like it would run on a powermac, cause my specs are pretty much the same.

 

thanks again !!

 

Madcoaster

[Colonel]

okay, since I can't find any good guides on 10.4.6, I'll help you out myself. First you'll need to tell me if you want to keep Windows or not. If you don't, this should be very easy.

[Madcoaster]

Well i would like to keep windows,

to be able to switch and benefit from the both.

 

Greets

 

Madcoaster

 

Bey the way,

 

Would i benefit from running only Tiger ?

[Colonel]

Well if you wanted to keep Windows, the first thing that you would have to do would be to partition your hard drive with a disk manager. Something like Partition Magic will work. You can also use the built in FDISK utility that Windows has. Here is a guide on how to use it.

 

And for your second question, the benefit for only running Tiger would be that you wouldn't have to worry about the Windows/Mac file compatability, partitioning your hard drive, and setting up the bootloader.

[Madcoaster]

well,

 

if im not going to lose performance,

 

i'm going for the windows and mac option.

 

My pc is nativly set up with a spare partions of 16.5 gb and it is formatted in fat32.

 

Is this a good start ?

[Colonel]

Okay then, from here you have two options. There's the VMWare method and the native method. VMWare is really for if you don't have a DVD drive. I highly recommend the native method. If you're ready for the native all you have to do is put the install DVD in, boot off the DVD, and start the installer.

[Madcoaster]

Well i don't have the 10.4.6 version yet,

but is it really that easy ?

 

just put it on a disk and install ?

 

As i read alot of those walktroughs,

 

it doesn't seem that simple ?

[Colonel]

Once you have downloaded 10.4.6 let me know. It is easy to install. Those other guides are more in depth and use different, longer methods of installing.

[Madcoaster]

Well why would someone do it the hard way when you can do it this easy ?

 

there must be a reason for that?

[Madcoaster]

No one who can comment this ?

 

greets

 

Madcoaster

[Colonel]

There are several methods on doing this. The long ones mostly involve linux or some other complicated strategy. However you do it, you will still end up with OSx86.

[Madcoaster]

So it won't work better if you choose for a complicated strategy?

 

bey the way, its hard to get 10.4.6 :-)

i think it will take alot of time before i get my hands on this version.

 

Greets,

 

Madcoaster

 

 

thanks for your all your help allready !

[Colonel]

Try getting a 10.4.5 DVD then. Upgrading 10.4.5 to 10.4.6 isn't really hard. It's alot harder upgrading 10.4.4 or 10.4.3. Quixos made a guide for upgrading 10.4.5 to 10.4.6. The 10.4.5 DVD is easier to get and it is upgraded without much difficutly.

[Madcoaster]

ahh ok

thanks for the tip

 

i'm going to search for the .5 version

 

i'll let you know shortly if i got it

 

greets

 

Madcoaster

[Madcoaster]

good news !

 

I have found a 4.4.6 version and im going to have it within 4 hours.

 

So my HD is formatted in fat32 with 16.5 gb off free space.

Whats the next step to prepare my computer for mac?

 

backing up my window files just in case ?

Cause people reporterd installing mac and then not beeing able to boot into windows no more. something about setting up dualboot.

 

greets,

 

look forward hearing from you

 

Michaël.

[Madcoaster]

This is the info i found about the 4.4.6 iso that i'm going to have.

 

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Min req SSE2 PAE, this iso works on AMD/INTEL but the preferred platform is AMD just to {censored} off apple and their lame and retarded cpuid checks

 

10.4.4/5/6 Selectable in the installer customize section, make sure to view the OSX86 Hack Group in the installer

 

10.4.4_SSE3_ONLY_KERNEL Unselected by default

 

This kernel is Intel/AMD sse3 only and doesn't have NX/CPUID/RTC/SSE2 patches NOTE IT Doesn't Work with AMD X2

 

so only use it if your cpu doesn't need any addictional patch , if your system panics at boot, type mach_kernel.old

 

This iso has itunes 6.04 and Java5 release 4 updates are included too

 

Third part drivers included:

 

NVidia nForceX, MCP51, CK8S , ATI SBXXX series PATA IDE coded by Zappadoc http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=13197

C-Media 8738 coded by dogbert http://scifi.pages.at/ffm-2/

Marvell Yukon 8001 coded by m.musashi http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=15700

Via Rhine coded by http://www.pinxue.net/mac/viarhine.html

Nforce4 Only Network driver coded by planetbeing http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=12933

 

Gma 900, Sigmatel 9920, Soundblaster usb, Radeon mobility packages from Jas dvd

Via mono audio fix from the osx86 forum

 

Semjza 10.4.6 decrypted files & most important Maxxuss work

 

http://www.konglish.org/

http://semjaza.freewebpage.org/

 

 

NB: SATA DOESN'T WORK ON NFORCE4 , DON'T INSTALL IT ON A SATA HD, sata isn't enabled after the reboot to prevent hd corruption

 

Sata is enabled and working for NFORCE3

 

10.4.3 usb kexts are included and selected by default , unselect them if you want, 10.4.3 usb kexts seem to work best with nforce3/4

 

Plus something more i don't remember now

 

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And here is a detail description of my computer set up:

 

CPU(s)

Number of CPUs 2 (1 Physical)

 

CPU#1 APIC ID = 0

Name Intel Pentium 4 640

Code Name Prescott

Specification Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.20GHz

Family / Model / Stepping F 4 3

Extended Family / Model 0 0

Package LGA 775

Core Stepping N0

Technology 90 nm

Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T

CPU Clock Speed 2793.1 MHz

Clock multiplier x 14.0

Front Side Bus Frequency 199.5 MHz

Bus Speed 798.0 MHz

L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size

L1 Trace Cache 12 Kuops, 8-way set associative

L2 Cache 2048 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size

L2 Speed 2793.1 MHz (Full)

L2 Location On Chip

L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes

L2 Bus Width 256 bits

 

CPU#2 APIC ID = 1

CPU Name Intel Pentium 4 640 (logical unit)

 

 

Mainboard and chipset

Motherboard manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD

Motherboard model MS-7091,

BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD

BIOS revision 6.00 PG

BIOS release date 01/27/2005

Chipset Intel i915P/i915G rev. B1

Southbridge Intel 82801FB (ICH6) rev. 03

Sensor chip Winbond 80

Graphic Interface PCI-Express

PCI-E Link Width x16

PCI-E Max Link Width x16

 

Memory

DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM

DRAM Size 1024 MBytes

DRAM Frequency 199.5 MHz

FSB:DRAM 1:1

CAS# Latency 3.0 clocks

RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks

RAS# Precharge 3 clocks

Cycle Time (TRAS) 8 clocks

# of memory modules 2

Module 0 Swissbit DDR PC3200 - 512 MBytes

Module 1 Swissbit DDR PC3200 - 512 MBytes

 

Software

Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

DirectX version 9.0c

 

Hope this is usefull information.

 

With best regards

 

Madcoaster

[Rammjet]

Yeah, I think 4.4.6 should be 10.4.6.

[Madcoaster]

woops,

 

my mistake!

 

thanks for pointing it out!

 

Do you think i have a good chance of installing Tiger with these specs ?

 

greets

 

Madcoaster

[sam_the_killer]

Can u just check which chipset ur moterboard uses.

As its Intel 915/9xx series, ur in a chance to get most out of ur system.

U can gain access to all the eye candy that apple packs in with Mac OS.

 

If ur having a separate HDD, it will be more handy for u, so that u cant put on the risk and that atleast

u'll be with Windows XP at the end of the whole operation.

 

I'll suggest u download the Jas 10.4.6 DVD, it has the max option.

 

And yes it will be better 4 u to first try installing via VMWare.

Even if u dont have a dvd drive, u can install it to a physical partition(only after u check whether ur system actually is capable of running it).

For that u just post a basic System Config.

 

And as soon as u dwld the install DVD, just PM me.

 

And don't forget

INSTALLING MAC OS X 10.4 on a generic PC IS DAMMMM SIMPLE.