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Has anyone tried MacOS with the newest ATI card - 4770? It's almost as fast as 4850, but it is manufactured in 40nm, so it uses less power and is less noisy. Unfortunately it uses different core than 4850/4870 - RV740. So, any chance of getting it to work in near future?

 

My 4850 works flawlessly under MacOS except that Power Play is not active - so it's noisy and wastes power. 4770 would be the perfect replacement.

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I am getting this card below 160 USD (conversion to local) . if i get this, I will surely get 2nd LCD and get dual display... if that works.

 

any users who manages to run this card in DUAL at osx , please ping here. I will be tracking this thread.

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I just bought one, but only as a transitional product; I think it unlikely that Apple will support this card but at least fairy likely they will suport the replacements for the 4850/4870/4890 which are due out in the next few months, or so rumour has it, using the 40nm process. Those cards should be fast, energy efficient and, on paper, cheap, as in the 5850 being cheap enough to make the 4770 obselete pretty quickly. Price will depend on how quickly Nvidia respond and it sounds as though they are quite far behind bringing things down to 40nm, so the price of the new ATI cards might be inflated.

 

That said, never say never and I am speculating. Meantime, I wouldn't want to encourage people to buy a 4700, except as a stopgap.

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thanks Detosx for that post.

 

Can anyone then suggest what will be good card with 40nm chip-fabric ( i want loowww voltage ) for dual display and casual gaming like TF2 ? ( I already have PS3 ).

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As far as I know the 4770 is the first powerful card to use the 40nm process and you could be in for quite a long wait for something compatible. At the moment we are in the anticipation stage of the new ATI cards, then there is the release stage, then waiting for the stores to get in stock, then there is ever more speculation about whether it will be supported, then a lot of questions about why it isn't supported yet, then a rumor, then possibly a leaked release, then a modification, then a long thread about how to get the card working... All in all, assuming your new card of choice will ever be supported, it is a long wait!

 

A good choice as a stopgap, if you have only one computer, might be the compatible 4850 which has dropped so much in price it's almost the same price as the 4770. It is a little less power hungry than the 4870 and 4890 cards and, especially if you buy a recent revision, the fan under load is a less noisy. People using Sapphire branded cards apparently have marginally more success getting their cards working than cards from other vendors. The 4770 for me is a stopgap card that I am writing off as unlikely to be supported. What it does support, even overlocked, is my PSU which though a decent quality 450W that could e overclocked ven run a 4890, it would be pushing it and who needs instability? I seriously considered upping my power supply to a 700W model and buying a 4890 Atomic with its quiet-er Vapor-X cooling system but initial reviews suggest it isn't that quiet and the power consumption is yet higher than regular models. Also, it would seem to me a big investment with the new ATI cards just around the corner, new cards which might run semi comfortably with my 450W power supply, more quietly and using less energy. If Nvidia get their act together the prices of the new ATI cards and Nvidia rivals may be representative of the cheaper manufacturing process. Time will tell.

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rv740 is closer to rv730 than to rv770 (in terms of pcb and programming), as far as i know

 

so unlikely it will work

The great man hath spoken! : )

 

Buy only as a lower power gaming stopgap before ATI and Nvidia bring out their new models which might be compatible at a later date. Or buy a 4850, which may be a bit more power hungry and less overclockable than a 4770 but compatible. Things and prices are changing fast.

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nice. ya i am not willing to get new PSU and keep power hungry machine running long long time. if i start a machine , it runs for minimum 10-15 hours .

 

BTW my ps3 just got replaced , sony gave me BC (ps2 playing) 80gb ps3 with DS gamepad against my 40GB only ps3 games capable machine :) wuhoo . now thats one nice stopgap option i have right now. going to play killzone2 when i get time.

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Indeed, the power consumption of the ATI and Nvidia cards, when idle, has been commented on in most reviews. I don't have a games console but look forward to playing some on the 4770. Still, if I want to get work done, OS X is the better platform than Windows, for me. If I didn't have an aging Mac Mini, I might have gone for a Saphire 4850 vapor-x as a stopgap, even it won't perhaps have the resale value of a newer 4770.

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rv740 is closer to rv730 than to rv770 (in terms of pcb and programming), as far as i know

 

so unlikely it will work

Firstly, thanks for the drivers to 4850 ;) And secondly, yes I know that. That's why i am asking if anyone is (or will be) working on this. Or maybe it is totally dependant on Apple, meaning no official support = no drivers. I'm really not that well informed - every fully compatible card (or chip) was originally in one of the Macs?

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All said, it is interesting how fast this card is selling out in a lot of vendor's stores and it's low energy footprint, both of which Apple must be taking notice of. The recession isn't going anywhere and this card could help shift green aluminium boxes. Never say never, just say unlikely. Meanwhile, a lot of bargins out there, including compatible ones.

 

Apart from when my computer powers up, this card is very quiet. I have yet to test it under full load, though, on an uncharacteristically hot Scottish summer!

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If you need OS X support here and now, hunt around in the sales for a Sapphire 4850, preferably a vapor-x model as they are quieter, though I am told recent revisions of the basic 4850 have quieter cooling systems than the original ones.

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Not to sound a negative but Vesa graphics work with many cards but most would class the card as unworking without QE and CI which no one has written support for with the 4770. I had a faint hope that Apple might embrace this card as an environmentally friendly and quiet solution but I have seen no sign of that am not holding my breath. If you look around you can pick up an HD 4850 for less than a 4770! Okay, that's not the point and there are many attractions to the 4770 but running OS X with it, in a useful state, is not one of them, yet.

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Hi there,

 

bought this card, running on Win7 RC1 no problem, running on Hackintosh: no problems BUT:

 

only resolution 1024 x 768, no changes possible. think someone has to create a driver or something like that.

 

but despite of that, anything is working.

 

(osx86: xxx10.5.6)

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Hi there,

 

bought this card, running on Win7 RC1 no problem, running on Hackintosh: no problems BUT:

 

only resolution 1024 x 768, no changes possible. think someone has to create a driver or something like that.

 

but despite of that, anything is working.

 

(osx86: xxx10.5.6)

I'm interested on changing resolution, there aren't news? can be that with the 10.5.8 will be supported?

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I'm interested on changing resolution, there aren't news? can be that with the 10.5.8 will be supported?

Apparently not!

Updated my pc with 10.5.8 and nothing. 1024x768 is the maximum, and only resolution.

Come on people what shall we doo?

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