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[quote name='Ludens'[/quote]


You wrote :

Download Empire EFI 1.085

Burn iso (non-legacy) to CD with lowest speed and boot from it.
Select disk(partition) "Mac OS X Install DVD"

I'm downloaded - Intel ONLY (Empire EFI V1.085) – Generic (Includes both legacy version and normal version)
In new version from July 4th, 2010 - of empire EFI 1.085 - we have 2 files with name :
BootCD.iso
and
LegacyBootCD.iso
You wrote that we must use - "non-legacy" . Do you mean, that need to use - BootCD.iso ?


and

You wrote :

Download OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato.zip
CODE
sudo -s
     cd Downloads
     unzip OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato.zip
     cp OSInstall /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/OSInstall.framework/Versions/A/
     cp OSInstall.mpkg /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Installation/Packages

Erase Windows partition with Disk Utility, filesystem HFS+, label it "Snow Leopard"
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message from my Terminal window - after :

Last login: Sat Jul 3 10:14:35 on console
kolans-macbook-pro:~ kolan$ sudo -s

WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command could lead to data loss
or the deletion of important system files. Please double-check your
typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for more information.

To proceed, enter your password, or type Ctrl-C to abort.

Password:
bash-3.2# cd Downloads
bash-3.2# unzip OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato.zip
Archive: OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato.zip
creating: OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato/
inflating: OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato/OSInstall.mpkg
inflating: OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato/OSInstall
inflating: OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato/Readme.txt
bash-3.2# cp OSInstall /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/OSInstall.framework/Versions/A/
cp: OSInstall: No such file or directory
bash-3.2# cp OSInstall /Volumes/Mac OS X Install DVD/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/OSInstall.framework/Versions/A/
usage: cp [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-fi | -n] [-pvX] source_file target_file
cp [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-fi | -n] [-pvX] source_file ...

==============================================

but after this, when Im try to install from putched - "Mac OS X 10.6.3 Retail DVD" - Disk Utility - cant install to any disc ....
Im also successfully changed the files - and since it is written in Manual for OSInstall_1063:

Like in the previous 10.6 version, you have to replace 2 files in the original dvd content:
-OSInstall goes into /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/OSInstall.framework/Versions/A/
-OSInstall.mpkg goes into /System/Installation/Packages



my directory :

/Volumes/Mac OS X Install DVD/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/OSInstall.framework/Versions/A/

and

/Volumes/Mac OS X Install DVD/System/Installation/Packages


BUT IT'S NO HELP TO ME....

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I have used "empireEFI_V1085_for intel core processors.zip" -> "legacyempire_efi1085.iso"

Your output shows that file OSInstall not found:
bash-3.2# cp OSInstall  /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/OSInstall.framework/Versions/A/
cp: OSInstall: No such file or directory

try next:
sudo -s
	 cd Downloads
	 unzip  OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato.zip
	 cd OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato
	 cp OSInstall	  /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/OSInstall.framework/Versions/A/
	 cp OSInstall.mpkg /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Installation/Packages

to verify successful replacement, check file datetime
ls -l /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/OSInstall.framework/Versions/A/OSInstall
original 11 Feb 2010 15:57
hacked 6 May 18:14
ls -l /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg
original 1 Apr 13:13
hacked 6 May 18:19

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I can not understand - why is not active in my 64 bit version, I think that everything is done right, u can see screen :

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2 weeks first time. Second time it has taken several hours.
I never have seen real Macbook, so can't compare :(
All features that I need are working.

I have played
- Portal - 80fps
- HL2 - 110fps
- CSS - 60 fps (have tested just today)


boot with -v and show error messages


Hi again!

Thanks a lot! I finally bought an 8530 and I just copied the partition I installed in the 8710 and it is working fine with Leopard. I have been testing the graphics performance and it is noticeably lower than Windows (like 40%) and it is very low with shaders with a lot of lights (I still don't know why)

The WIFI does still not work but I found an extremely small USB adapter which works great, I simply used the driver in the box:

http://www.sitecom.c...X1/WL-353/p/755

And you were right, it took me 2 weeks :D

I only have two annoying issues

1) It does not sleep. When I press the sleep the screen switches of but the computer continues working and I cannot wake it up until I completely switch of the computer.

2) There must be something strange in the power settings because when I'm working for say 30 minutes, the computer starts getting very hot and the fan starts running at full speed, just using safari and the text edit.

Regards!

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I can not understand - why is not active in my 64 bit version, I think that everything is done right, u can see screen

you have Mac OS X 10.6.4 with old kernel Darwin 10.3.0
kernel should be Darwin 10.4.0

64-bit works only with vanilla kernel

actual com.apple.Boot.plist is in the /Extra folder, show contents here

casty,
I can only see graphics performance in counter-strike source :D
in windows 150fps with high settings
in mac - 60 fps with low settings

nvidia released new drivers
http://www.nvidia.co...f03-driver.html
can be installed using pacifist
you can try them, but for me they didn't give performance boost...

so my Mac isn't for gaming :(

sleep doesn't work for me too

for cpu overheating issue - it seems that IntelSpeedStep or VoodooPower kexts are not loaded

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Help, I cant to use 64 - bit
I have now :
1) Darwin Kernel Version 10.4.0
2) Edited file - /Extra/ - com.apple.Boot.plist
3) Edited file - /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration - com.apple.Boot.plist


1)

/Extra/com.apple.Boot.plist

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com...yList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Graphics Mode</key>
<string>1024x768x32</string>
<key>GraphicsEnabler</key>
<string>y</string>
<key>Kernel</key>
<string>legacy_kernel</string>
<key>PciRoot</key>
<string>1</string>
<key>Timeout</key>
<string>5</string>
</dict>
</plist>

2)

/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com...yList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Kernel Flags</key>
<string>arch=x86_64</string>
</dict>
</plist>

3)

Message from my terminal window
that Im steel use 32 bit =(((((

Last login: Sat Jul 10 19:53:33 on console
MacBook-Pro-kolan:~ kolan$ uname -a
Darwin MacBook-Pro-kolan.local 10.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.4.0: Thu Jun 17 18:42:31 EDT 2010; annappirtrvh v4 :xnu-1504.7.4/BUILD/obj/RELEASE_I386 i386
MacBook-Pro-kolan:~ kolan$

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change /Extra/com.apple.Boot.plist

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com...yList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Graphics Mode</key>
<string>1024x768x32</string>
<key>GraphicsEnabler</key>
<string>y</string>
<key>Kernel</key>
<string>mach_kernel</string>
<key>Kernel Flags</key>
<string>arch=x86_64</string>

<key>PciRoot</key>
<string>1</string>
<key>Timeout</key>
<string>5</string>
</dict>
</plist>

/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist is not used at all

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Ludens,

Thank you very much sharing your installation experiences to us on the forum.

I have a few questions about it:

1 Do you have already a recompiled DSDT for the 8710W ?
2 The Santa Rosa chips used in the 8710W can do Dynamic Acceleration. Which means that one core can reach 2,6GHZ by down clocking the other core. I think this is causing the wrong FSB detection by the bootloader. FSB 200 / Busratio = 12 doesn't help. I still got 2,46Ghz with FSB 184Mhz busspeed.
3 Because of problem described at 2 i think voodoomini and voodoobattery are not working probably KP's!. I think that everything can be corrected by a correct DSDT. Without the voodoo power / battery drivers system is rock steady.

P.S. The supplied gigabit driver you talking about isn't supporting promiscuous mode which causes VMware and Parallels to fail operating in bridging mode. I have a replaced kext for that. Its the AppleIntelE1000 kext.

Also for the Wifi. I just bought from eBay: 441075-002 HP 6715b Broadcom WLAN card. Just costed me 10 euros incl. shipping and its official in the whitelist of the laptop. Hope it will work when I replace the intel with this card.

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1) No. It was too complex for me. If you have some ideas, we may try them together.

2) no ideas, may be change bootloader? What kernel have you tested - vanilla or legacy?

3)
http://forum.voodoop...pic,1235.0.html
kernel panic is caused by conflict between AppleACPIPS2Nub.kext and VoodooBattery.kext

when I boot 32-bit, I use VoodooPS2Controller 0.98 32-bit from http://forum.voodooprojects.org
all is ok with battery

when I switch to 64-bit, I use VoodooPS2Controller 0.98 32/64-bit from:
http://www.insanelym...howtopic=175372
it forces to use AppleACPIPS2Nub.kext and gives kernel panic when battery is low

I just don't work on battery =)
If you need work on battery, switch to 32-bit mode.

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Thanks for replying Ludens, (sorry that I didn't reply earlier)

I'm to noob for DSDT editing, already looked into it but the HP DSDT extraction results in a DSDT file which is full of kind of Aliases. Eg They call it all the time "Device C389" etc.

I already managed to get all things detected right like CPU / FSB / Memory with the Chameleon 2.RC5 R141 / and AnVal Bootloader.

The problem is that a FSB of 200Mhz exact I get horrible sound from the VoodooHDA 2.7.2 kext. Also SMBIOS.plist has an affect on system performance. Im running now with MacBookPro5,3 setting and this results in better 2D performance of the nVidia Quadro FX1600. It stays at 325Mhz GPU core instead falling to 183Mhz which looks really lagged.

Also taking out the AC adapter makes the problem worse when you use voodoo battery according sound by the VoodooHDA together VoodooBattery (Gives sometimes panics anyway)

So I really like to accomplish that somebody will correct the DSDT file for the 8710W. I think its the same of the 8510W and I already found one on the net but this one was barely edited. (Only some fan adjustments).

DSDT is the key to get everything working as it should be.

I think we can achieve correct powermanagement / Acpi (Cpu Speedstep and native battery support),
Maybe force the Video card to higher standard clockrates (i dont know if thats managed by the DSDT as well),
Native AppleHDA support (to get rid of VoodooHDA),

I like to pay 35 euros for a full corrected DSDT file donated by paypal if somebody can correct above 3 things. Maybe you can offer an amount as well so somebody can recompile our DSDT file as it should be.

What CPU do you have now ?

(The AnVAL bootloader has an option Force FSB=MHz, I tried 233MHz FSB and the laptop is still stable. Got an Geekbench of 5500 already out of it. Horrible sound then :-))

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what about 10.6.5 ?

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I just got one of these laptops with core i7 processor, 4 gigs of ram.



Ive successfully done a dell 14z with 10.6.4, and a dell 1520 with 10.5.6.

Im going to try this new laptop first on an external esata probably. Its a nice workstation style laptop,.

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I have update to 10.6.6 on my HP 8710W work very fine.
I have only problem with VoodooBattery to 64Bit...dont work!

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Ok i have found a solution for the battery on HP 8710W - 10.6.6 - 64bit and Kernel Panic On ACPI when the battery have low charge.

Install SL VoodooBattery.kext in /S/L/E

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thank you for this guide, it's very thorough. I have an 8740w and I was wondering if there was any sort of fix for getting Firewire to work in Snow Leopard? It's completely essential for me for Pro Tools 9 and my interface.

Thanks!

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hi to all,

who have this NB works in 10.8 ?

I'm tring all vanilla, only speedstep seems not works correctly as in 10.6.8.

Who have a DSDT for this 8710W HP ? Thanks.

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Hi, I'm also looking for a DSDT file for my 8710w. Has anyone put one together yet?





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