mp3228 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 A major problem with Obama is that there are as many different versions of Obama as there are leftist pundits and there are legions of them. Another reason why Obamamania in engulfing this nation is because he is all things to all pundits. Even a cursory study on Mr. Obama's past will reveal his abnormal body of contradictions and even outright deception. It is a fact that over the years a clique of masses on the left have been heavily indoctrinated with selective teachings that promote anti-Americanism, a love for socialism, hostility toward capitalism and free enterprise. This bombardment of indoctrination combined with a siege mentality that creates the cradle of socialism which generates a fury of hatred , has the potential of devouring America. If only the far left Useful Idiots could purge the negative aspects of their dogma and practice the positive teaching of diversity, our community would be at peace with one another. This is the question. Is that possible or are we headed for the clash beyond the ideas? The raw material for ideas and beliefs reaches us through the senses. The brain takes the massive barrage of input and attempts to organize it and incorporate it in an orderly fashion, a monumental task that is taken for granted until something goes seriously wrong. Relatively minor glitches in the working of the mind, such as misunderstanding, misperception, and making poor decisions, occur daily and may not present serious problems. Over time, however, even these minor glitches in the mind, caused by faulty input, poor processing or both, can add up and significantly compromise its integrity. To make matters worse, a vociferous clique of local leftists with a suicide wish are doing all they can to take the country with them to the grave they so earnestly seek. The pundits, the analysts and the politicians who have supported Obama, are doing a great disservice to the public and America. Each segment, for its own expedient reasons, is parroting the mantra of distribution of the wealth. Thus, a new generation of "Useful Idiots," the sort of people Lenin identified living in liberal democracies who furthered the work of communism, has arrived. This new generation of Useful Idiots also live in liberal democracies, but serve the cause of anti-Americanism—with its virulent ideology and some added spice of Islamofascism, mostly on university campuses. Many universities in the U.S. are bastions and incubators of many Useful Idiots. Far left professors do more than teach their subjects of a specialty. They feel that they have license to pontificate on any and all matters. That is why they are called "professors." These self-appointed prima donnas cover themselves with the shield of academic freedom. Academic freedom is like liberty—it can be abused often and abused greatly. That is the price of freedom. Yet, these abusers of freedom, the far left, will be among the first to be buried under the rubble of the free society's collapse they work so doggedly to bring about. On the other hand, the Muslim world is embracing Obama as their own, love our Useful Idiot politicians, and will happily ally with them, who then will gladly cede some of their power to this group of enforcers, so that conservative politicians and Christians who advocate self-defense and sane social policies are kept out of office. On university campuses, for example, extreme ideologies such as Islam will be portrayed as righteous and peaceful, while Christianity will be associated with evil Western and American values. What does the rebellious American youth do? They will eat it up. Useful Idiots are naïve, they are foolish, they are ignorant of facts, they are unrealistically idealistic, they are dreamers and they are willfully in denial or deceptive. They hail from the ranks of the chronically unhappy. They are anarchists, they are aspiring revolutionaries, they are neurotics who are at war with life, the disaffected alienated from government, corporations, and just about any and all institutions of society. The Useful Idiot can be a billionaire, a movie star, an academic of renown, a politician, or from any other segment of the population. Arguably, the most dangerous variant of the Useful Idiot is the "Politically Correct." He is the master practitioner of euphemism, hedging, doubletalk, and outright deception. The Useful Idiot derives satisfaction from being anti-establishment. He finds perverse gratification in aiding the forces that aim to dismantle an existing order, whatever it may be, an order he neither approves of nor feels he belongs to. The Useful Idiot is conflicted and dishonest. He fails to look inside himself and discover the causes of his own problems and unhappiness while he readily enlists himself in causes that validate his distorted perception. Understandably, it is easier to blame others and the outside world than to examine oneself with an eye to self-discovery and self-improvement. Furthermore, criticizing and complaining—liberal practices of the Useful Idiot—require little talent and energy. The Useful Idiot is a great armchair philosopher and "Monday Morning Quarterback." The Useful Idiot is not the same as a person who honestly has a different point of view. A society without honest and open differences of views is a dead society. Critical, different and fresh ideas are the lifeblood of a living society—the very anathema of autocracies where the official position is sacrosanct. Even a "normal" person spends a great deal more energy aiming to fix things out there than working to overcome his own flaws and shortcomings, or contribute positively to the larger society. People don't like to take stock of what they are doing or not doing that is responsible for the conditions of which they disapprove. But the Useful Idiot takes things much farther. The Useful Idiot, among other things, is a master practitioner of scapegoating. He assigns blame to others while absolving himself of responsibility, has a long handy list of candidates for blaming anything and everything, and by living a distorted life, he contributes to the ills of society. The Useful Idiot may even engage in willful misinformation and deception when it suits him. For example, terms such as "Political Islam," or "Radical Islam," for instance, are contributions of the Useful Idiot. These terms do not even exist in the native parlance of Islam, simply because they are redundant. Islam, by its very nature and according to its charter—the Quran—is a radical political movement. If theseUseful Idiots make their way into the White House, the future historians will ask themselves: how the entire country could have seen this coming and done nothing about it. What kind of opiate were these people on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaar Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Don't forget the 'Useless Idiot'. That is, the one that whips pamphlets up such as the one above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Don't forget the 'Useless Idiot'. That is, the one that whips pamphlets up such as the one above.Right on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Guru Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Actually... mp3228 is right on the money. Obama is very contradictory, yet both you two don't care to do your own damn research, or you love socialism ruining everyone else's chance at the American Dream. Seriously, if you hate what America stands for so much, why don't you just move to Canada or something. Sheesh... Guru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaar Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Actually... mp3228 is right on the money. Obama is very contradictory, yet both you two don't care to do your own damn research, or you love socialism ruining everyone else's chance at the American Dream. Seriously, if you hate what America stands for so much, why don't you just move to Canada or something. Sheesh...Guru Here's some interesting and highly relevant reading for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Guru Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Here's some interesting and highly relevant reading for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia I am not paranoid. In fact, I am going to laugh my ass off when people start losing their jobs due to high taxes. Me? I could care less. Go ahead and watch America burn. Guru P.S. In case you didn't notice, I relish in the defeat of liberal policies and politicians. I am no fear monger because I am right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaar Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Go ahead and watch America burn. That's already happening for a few years. Obama will need a huge extinguisher and a huge amount of competent people to tidy up this mess. That alone should boost the job market like never seen before. Next year when Daddy Manager doesn't bring home $550,000 but only $480,000 we'll all feel the disaster striking as he'll be unable to buy his son the latest import car made in one of those evil 'socialist' countries like Sweden or Germany. Awww... btw regarding higher taxes on large corporate. There's a fairly simple and largely proven way to get around it, at least partially. Increase your costs and decrease your profits by paying your employees in the lower income brackets higher salaries. The employee won't get necessarily taxed more if Obama keeps his statement that he won't touch income up to $250,000. That gives them more purchasing power, hence a potential boost for the economy. That has nothing to do with socialism, it's logical and worked many times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainbone Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 people start losing their jobs due to high taxes. "Higher taxes" doesn't cause the loss of jobs. Oppressive taxes can, but the taxes proposed by Obama are anything but oppressive. In fact, s-corps like my own will pay much less, and there are plenty of incentives for larger corporations that will help them keep their taxes low -- possibly even lower than today. Obama's proposals are certainly not anti-business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhai Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Go ahead and watch America burn. I am already, been doing that for a couple of years already... I am no fear monger because I am right. Yap yap yap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Guru Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I am already, been doing that for a couple of years already...Yap yap yap... Alright, have it your own way. I have essentially given up here because he has taken office. But I want to see what Obama's true intentions are over the course of the next several years. Just keep in mind that IF Obama's polices do not make for a better America, you really can't blame the Republicans anymore. Guru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp3228 Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 With the media calling this man the "Messiah", "The One", and all other types of wierd things... Yes, I am worried with this man will do. Obama isn't going to save you from anything. The only person that will make a difference in your life, is you. The last person that was called the "Messiah" was Mao, dictator of China. Obama works for the same people Bush does. Obama will attack Afghanistan. You just wait and see. Something will happen within the first 6 months of him being in office. I don't care what you "believe". Just know, and remember, that I said it, so when it happens, you will know I was right. http://www.change.gov/agenda/ "and finish our mission in Afghanistan," Why does his compaign get a .gov address, when he isn't even in office yet? http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib....p;cid=N00009638 I percieve him as a very dangerous man, probably more so than Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Obama is an intelligent, compassionate and articulate man. He thinks things through before he makes decisions. So he is everything George W Bush is not. He is a politician, yes that I won't deny. Your post is so full of misinformation, I can't even begin. An example: The Useful Idiot may even engage in willful misinformation and deception when it suits him. For example, terms such as "Political Islam," or "Radical Islam," for instance, are contributions of the Useful Idiot. These terms do not even exist in the native parlance of Islam, simply because they are redundant. Islam, by its very nature and according to its charter—the Quran—is a radical political movement. So Islam is by nature 'radical'. {censored}, there are many moderate Muslims, for example Sufi Muslims. Look at Tunisia, look at Turkey. I percieve him as a very dangerous man, probably more so than Bush. I doubt Obama will ever launch a war without UN consent, without Congressional approval, on the basis of a lie, without any aggressive acts to warrant it. Then pretend that it is won, and allow the entire country to fall apart and descend into a horrible civil war/terrorist haven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 ... why don't you just move to Canada or something. I have left the USA, am currently in Canada and looking for a more permanent destination such as Hong Kong or Singapore. I am also advising my friends and family to prepare US exit strategies and many of them are. Solaar, here's some interesting and highly relevant reading for you: http://www.lulu.com/content/2325554 http://www.lulu.com/content/3455852 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainbone Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I have left the USA, am currently in Canada and looking for a more permanent destination such as Hong Kong or Singapore. I am also advising my friends and family to prepare US exit strategies and many of them are. Solaar, here's some interesting and highly relevant reading for you: http://www.lulu.com/content/2325554 http://www.lulu.com/content/3455852 More decision making based on unsubstantiated fear. Wonderful. Just what the world needs more of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp3228 Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 Reguardless, your opinion of your "messiah" is irrelevent. I deal in facts, and evidence. The useful idiot walks both sides of the fence. I doubt Obama will ever launch a war without UN consent, without Congressional approval, on the basis of a lie, without any aggressive acts to warrant it. Then pretend that it is won, and allow the entire country to fall apart and descend into a horrible civil war/terrorist haven. Want to put money on it? I say the first 6 months he will start a war. On the contrary, you are the one who is misinformed because you don't know what powers you are dealing with in big government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaar Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Solaar, here's some interesting and highly relevant reading for you:http://www.lulu.com/content/2325554 http://www.lulu.com/content/3455852 Isn't Tarpley one of those 9/11 conspiracy theorists? Although his research and argumentation are intriguing, there is one thing that should make everybody suspicious about his theories. He either takes an obvious inconsistency or a generalised assumption which is irrelevant or not proven to be valid at the time an event happened and uses it as proof for his pre-conceived idea. For example, 'steel in high rise constructions cannot collapse because its melting point is much higher than the temperature at the time it collapsed... >> therefore it could have been forced to collapse by means of planned demolition.' That's like counter-argumenting the statement '1+1=2.1' with '1+1=2.1 is false therefore my initial theory 1+1=1.9 could be true.' BTW the original post about Obama stands in total contrast to Tarpley's theories. Socialism vs fascism. So when you have two fundamentally opposite theories, the odds are very high that none of the two is valid. There have been enough even more elaborate and plausible sounding hoaxes fabricated in history. And there are more to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I doubt Obama will ever launch a war without UN consent, without Congressional approval, on the basis of a lie, without any aggressive acts to warrant it. Then pretend that it is won, and allow the entire country to fall apart and descend into a horrible civil war/terrorist haven. Like when Clinton invaded Kosovo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp3228 Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 Isn't Tarpley one of those 9/11 conspiracy theorists? The largest conspiracy theory I've ever heard is that kerosine can melt steel. Only people in a 3rd grade science class can believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic George Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Obama will attack Afghanistan. You just wait and see. Something will happen within the first 6 months of him being in office. I don't care what you "believe". Just know, and remember, that I said it, so when it happens, you will know I was right. Hate to break it to you, but we attacked Afghanistan 7 years ago. I mean the Taliban didn't exactly invite us in there. Are you perhaps thinking of Pakistan? The largest conspiracy theory I've ever heard is that kerosine can melt steel. Only people in a 3rd grade science class can believe that. You really need to work on your reading comprehension. You've had this "point" explained to you a dozen different times by an equal number of people, yet you keep spouting it like it means something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooonyyy Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 to mp3228, i have to say that this post that you wrote is among the best article i ever read, i'm not saying that i agree with everything, or anything at all. The way you made it, sentence construction and arguments explaination are, at leaste, admirable. it has been a long time since i read a philosofical matter discuss on the net from a random persone that i was hopeless to ever find one. with that being said, criticism: -the way you used the word anarchists. As I know this word, it mean the absence of rules, but not beacause people don't follow them, because they aren't needed. People make they're desition based on the right of others. But as critisism have a second, better accepted, meaning so anachist: "they're is no rule, I do what everything i want to". -criticizing as anarchists have an implied meaning here, i'm sure you meant "negative un-argumented criticism. -The Useful Idiot is a great armchair philosopher? i realy doubt that the Useful Idiot can be called philosopher, in anyway. but i would love to be proven wrong. it's not that "they" are biologicaly unable to performe such task, they are just limited by decades of (flat-)education. -university's professors can learn us more in 1h than most parent in 18 year, i had saw it time enough to garantee that. the probleme is that they don't always learn "good" things, i agree with you on that, and it hurt so much. -Obama will attack Afghanistan, unbelivable. i'm not going to talk about Obama because i don't know almost anything about him expte what the mass media bring me, so just one more thing. Are you a profesional writter? if you are, plz, tell me for who you work, I would love to read more like this, thank you for this and sorry for bad english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic George Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Want to put money on it? I say the first 6 months he will start a war. You loose. Obama didn't start any wars in the first year, never mind six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Don't forget the 'Useless Idiot'. That is, the one that whips pamphlets up such as the one above. I had never seen this before, but I find it hilarious. More generally speaking, I don't understand the "useless idiots" who try to destroy Obama, and not a word about Bush, by far one the worst presidents you ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 I had never seen this before, but I find it hilarious. More generally speaking, I don't understand the "useless idiots" who try to destroy Obama, and not a word about Bush, by far one the worst presidents you ever had. Me neither the reason you see not a mention of the shrub is it does not fit into the right wing neo-con religious agenda of blaming everything on Obama, obstruction of everything he tries to do and generally just turning America into a mean nasty place full of hate and division so they can take control back and continue on with what they started... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Me neither the reason you see not a mention of the shrub is it does not fit into the right wing neo-con religious agenda of blaming everything on Obama, obstruction of everything he tries to do and generally just turning America into a mean nasty place full of hate and division so they can take control back and continue on with what they started... It sounds right to me... It is exactly the same what happened to Italy. We had 2 years of good, democratic government (Mr. Prodi). The right wing was shouting all the time it was the worst government ever. In the end they managed to cause it to fall. Then they came back to power (Mr. Berlusconi) and it is an absolute nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic George Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 It sounds right to me...It is exactly the same what happened to Italy. We had 2 years of good, democratic government (Mr. Prodi). The right wing was shouting all the time it was the worst government ever. In the end they managed to cause it to fall. Then they came back to power (Mr. Berlusconi) and it is an absolute nightmare. You have my condolences. Berlusconi is the one mainstream western politician who seems to be even worse to have in office than Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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