Alessandro17 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 In view of the upcoming release season (Ubuntu, openSUSE, Debian, Mandriva, Fedora...), what is your position now regarding KDE4? Mine is to avoid distros which do not offer KDE3.5 at least as a choice (all my favourites do). By the following release season I'll see how KDE4.2, or even 4.3 is doing and decide what to do next. BTW, I find myself very much in agreement with this guy: http://thelinuxrant.com/kde-4-sucks-big-time.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 "I do not like KDE4", said Sam I Am. GNOME is so much better. (Except on openSUSE lol ) If I have to use KDE, I'd personally use 3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Adams Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 KDE4= {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 GNOME is so much better. (Except on openSUSE lol ) I tend to agree here. Leave standard GNOME alone, it is fine as it is. KDE4= {censored}. Two people who feel like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Dman Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Well I tried openSUSE 11 with KDE4.1 and also like KDE4. I'm now using Gnome on Ubuntu 8.04, great performance and better graphics support (KDE4.1 doesn't work with my Nvidia card). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Adams Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 They just made KDE to bloated now. I like a lot of the stuff it has but i want to add it myself so I can choose the kind I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headrush69 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Having been a long time KDE 3.x user before coming to OS X, I can't stand the current look of KDE 4.x Icons are generally too big by default and layouts are less than optimal. Just compare KDE System Settings window to OS X's System Preferences window and the difference is remarkable. Simple things such as a slight shading between groups makes readability so much easier. (Vista's Control Panel in Category View doesn't do it either.) Maybe in a few years KDE will approach this level, but for me, my days of "playing"/experimenting with the OS are over and I'm just looking for productivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dies Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Puppy Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I think that KDE 4.1 is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scj312 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I don't understand why the UI is huge and then they slap on this tiny font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebcak Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Maybe in a few years KDE will approach this level Actually somebody said that "KDE3 is the best DE of the last 25 years". I tend to agree with them, at least in terms of usability and features. KDE4, OTOH leaves a lot to desire from those points of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLone Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Doing a pretty face is not all. KDE4 is just that. They need years of hard working to make it useful again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Doing a pretty face is not all. KDE4 is just that. They need years of hard working to make it useful again That is why I hope somebody keeps maintaining KDE3. Hell, that isn't a fork. That is keeping a DE loved by millions alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDRacer48 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Viva la Gnome!!!! Oh, oh I am sorry. What happened? I think I blacked out or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLone Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I'm a Gnome guy since 2.18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 KDE 4 is the way forward, though I feel the "4.0" status was given far to early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m16 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Fluxbox is my favorite, so customizable, shame only a few distros (most of them obsolete) use it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshitcat Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Two people who feel like me.Make that three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karuso Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 technically, KDE4(.1) is the best DE ever made. with its frameworks like phonon its really simple to build apps and integrate them in KDE. the problem atm is that the designs and layouts aren't "finished" yet. they have to be refined to get the user experience people have with kde 3.5 but also see the benefits of the changes made to enhance KDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elv13 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 KDE4 vision is the right path to follow, it will take time, but once everything is pluged with everything, it will be even more user friendly than OSX. Everything will work with everything (akonadi, nepomuk, strigi, kjobs, plasma, solid and phonon have been designed to do that). The "port" will be long (KDE application are basically the same than in KDE3.5, just with QT4 and bigger toolbar). You will see, all will be better, it is a meter of time. The path that KDE took is hard to follow and will required a lot of effort, but it will pay. Gnome vision (or lack of) suck, they have met their goal and now add some useless bloat to it. They even start to copy the KDE3 roadmap (at least 1 apps for each task), this is the opposite of the original Gnome goal (leave it to 3rd party but provide a totaly open API). Gnome will eventually die out of progress while KDE accepted to recive some critics to be sure to move foward to met future desktop standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 Elv13 I hope you are right. But then the problem is that distros started too soon shoving KDE4 down users' throat's. What happens if you use openSUSE or Mandriva? You don't find KDE3.5 among the default De's selection. In the case of Mandriva you don't find it on the DVD at all (imagine if you are on dial-up). Many new user tried KDE4 and hated it. Typical scenario: a lot of people downloaded openSUSE 11.0 KDE LiveCD: available only as KDE4 (later somebody created an unofficial KDE3 one). It was hated by most and I can't blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Psychopath Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I still use KDE 4.1 from time to time. I personally think it's nice, but I can't wait for: -easier way to build custom qt4 themes. -More custom icon packs. -More plasma themes. And the big one: -Overall fixedness. I love the ideas and implementations, but it still needs to radically mature. That said, what IS there is awesome. And even better, most KDE4 apps will have Windows, Mac, BSD, WinMobile, and Solaris ports, so you'll at least be able to enjoy Amarok or KDEnlive on another OS without too much hassle. (And, some plasma dev has been working on getting the entire Plasma desktop shell to work instead of Explorer.exe in Windows. Neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 some plasma dev has been working on getting the entire Plasma desktop shell to work instead of Explorer.exe in Windows. Neat. Yeah, that would be very nice.And i wish they ported K3B, that would be awesome, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonch Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I tried KDE 4 and immediately abandoned it. Yuck. I already hated KDE enough as it is with their neverending joke of prefixing everything with the letter "K." I'm personally digging minimalist desktops using Fluxbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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