AirmanPika Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) And so begins your new quest. Soon we will have a ton of users with XP on their machines so now the question is....how the hell do we USE them without drivers? Well....sofar this is what we have... Updated March 24 2007 (YAY I can edit posts again! I added the IR driver to the list) Well its been 9 months since I last updated this. Sorry about that. Admittedly this thread was rendered kinda pointless by BootCamp as prior to its release we were hunting for drivers for the EFI hack solution. BUT even with bootcamp there are still some issues and updates that can be done. First off for those lazy bums who need it here's a link to apple's bootcamp page... http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/ What does it bring us? Just about everything now. From what I have personally seen and from other feedback there are a few catches... -24" iMacs seem to end up with a blank screen even with the latest bootcamp. Unfortunately I can't look into this much as I only have a 17" iMac and a MacBook Pro C2. -Device Manager shows 2 problems in at least iMacs and MacBooks (all). One is a yellow ! next to a USB HID Device. The other is some kind of Performance Monitor. It seems to be an intel part per the hardware ID but thats as far as I can get. Now what about enhancements to what apple gives us. -ATI Drivers can be updated via Omega or ATI Directly. ATI has released RTM drivers for Vista that work on the iMacs and MacBook Pros. You can also update via the latest drivers from intel if you got one of the Intel Graphics machines. http://www.omegadrivers.net/ http://ati.amd.com/ (goto Drivers & Software and select your OS) http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df...r_nav2_download -If you have a C2Duo machine Apple was kind enough to provide us with an 802.11n Draft Wireless Card. I've found a new version of the drivers which correct the sound skipping issues and seem more stable also. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=39596 - An IR Driver for Windows has been developed. See progress and the latest Driver versions in this thread... http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=39172 -Input Remapper has been updated to support all MacBook Pros and adds support for auto dim/keyboard backlight and all function keys. Eject and NumLock are now fully functional in vista with the latest release. The auto functions are somewhat erratic but can be adjusted. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=34515 Some may ask what to do about bootcamp drivers in Vista. Thing is the Bootcamp driver installer explodes around the point where the Video Drivers are installed and rolls back. Best thing to do is to run the installer with the /a option to extract the files and then manually install what you can. Really the only things you should need from bootcamp are the drivers for iSight, Apple Keyboard Support, WiFi, and Bluetooth. -Howto Extract Drivers http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=24302 -Bluetooth Fix http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=12293 -MacBook Pro Keyboard http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=32300 -Manual Trackpad Driver Install http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=220617 Well this is everything I could think of right now. I'll post what used to be here in a thread reply incase anyone needs it still. Edited March 24, 2007 by AirmanPika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFNITE Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 for audio, I have read that the iMacs use Intel High Definition Audio chipset, so you could try this http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/219983/i...e-download.html for video, someone suggested you try extracting the driver file and install it manually through device manager. Have you tried doing that yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus Fear Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Give this a try for audio: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df...g=eng&prdmap=36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 for audio, I have read that the iMacs use Intel High Definition Audio chipset, so you could try thishttp://www.opendrivers.com/driver/219983/i...e-download.html for video, someone suggested you try extracting the driver file and install it manually through device manager. Have you tried doing that yet? Tried the video. It just freezes the PC. Audio didn't work either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFNITE Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 looks like video may need some major hackjob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus Fear Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 If the Intel HD Audio (realtek codec) didn't work, it seems like Intel also uses a Sigmatel codec version. Found the driver for that. http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df...eng&PrdMap=2065 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Give this a try for audio:http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df...g=eng&prdmap=36 Its doing something...looks like its trying to install the drivers but keeps not finding em... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus Fear Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 As for the bluetooth, seems like Apple used a fairly standard Cambridge Silicon Radio USB part. If Windows didn't install its default bluetooth drivers, I'd recommend trying to find some WIDCOMM drivers somewhere online. Unfortunately, that might be a bit difficult as it seems those drivers are usually given out to OEMs, therefore some OEM sets might be locked. Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imapetert Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I remember noting this, for audio ... Apple uses Open AL drivers, I think. at least that is what UT2K4 saw the audio as. http://www.openal.org/downloads.html whoops, nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 If the Intel HD Audio (realtek codec) didn't work, it seems like Intel also uses a Sigmatel codec version. Found the driver for that.http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df...eng&PrdMap=2065 Thats it, but no sound from the speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus Fear Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Ooh...I had a thought...maybe it's defaulting to the lineout. No idea how you'd get the speakers working in that case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yea getting sound from headphone output right now. Looking into other outputs. It shows me the speaker adjustment for surround sound speaker volume (8 channels) but still no audio from speakers :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus Fear Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yeah I guess check the mixer/volume control thing. It might be in there somewhere. I did notice that in Mac OS the Line Out and Speakers have two completely separate volume settings, so I wouldn't be surprised to find that the case in Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluxin Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/A7G/VGA_XP_060221.zip Possible graphics driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus Fear Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 About the wireless drivers -- last I helped a friend with his Dell, the Dell drivers for that chipset didn't support WPA2. I know some broadcom drivers exist that do, but I don't know if they work with the chip in the iMac. Can't try, don't know But they're on this page. http://www.station-drivers.com/page/broadcom.htm I know they're listed as coming from Compaq, but when I used them on my friend's machine, they're vanilla broadcom drivers, if I remember correctly. Also, right below it is some bluetooth stuff. Maybe that'd work. Oh, and if you require WPA2 support, there's an extra patch you need to get from Microsoft's site. Edit: Ah, {censored}. I just checked out that driver, but they linked the wrong thing. Sigh. They linked an 802.11g driver by mistake. I'll see if I can find the real link on google somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 I found this while searching for an unknown PCI device ID. It looks to be a hardware list generated by linix on a 17" imac from the people who got linix going on it a few weeks ago. May help may not.... 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03) 00:07.0 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Unknown device 27a3 (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controllers cc=AHCI (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71c5 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 22) 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 UART (rev 01) 04:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW323 (rev 61) Of course the ATI Unknown Device is the Mobility Radeon x1600 but what I am wondering is what the Performance Counters entry is exactly. It shows up as an unknown PCI device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus Fear Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 So I've got some bluetooth drivers that I think should work, the Broadcom Widcomm ones. I pre-patched them so they don't have the not-the-right-OEM issue. Putting it up on Megaupload, but since it's going to take about 40 minutes to upload, and I've got an exam this morning, I'll have to post the link after I wake up. Sorry bout that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcer Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 what about original intel driver for gma950 ? http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df...ystems&lang=eng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus Fear Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Here's bluetooth, hope it works: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0TI5FLDN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmoonee3 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 i wonder if omega drivers will work on the MBP or the imac. they have an option for mobile GPUs when u install it. http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati/win2k_xp.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurst09 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hi All, AirmanPika, Try This => http://support.toshiba-tro.de/tools/Tecra/...204051220a1.zip This is graphic driver for Toshiba Tecra A7 and the hardware match with the macbookpro/imacintel especialy the video card got the same device id (71c5) with your imac radeon x1600 mobility I hope it's help your for missing drivers Just 4 the record, neither Omega nor the Acer Driver from Travelmate 8200 did work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdar Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I think I found the video driver for the Mac book and the Imac.... The launch partner for the X1600 mobility was (is) ASUS. The launch laptop is the ASUS A7G http://www.ati.com/buy/promotions/AsusA7G/index.html If you look on the ASUS support pages for the A7G you will find: Graphics Driver ATI Graphics driver for WinXP the current version is v8.204 (dated 2/21/2006) I'm downloading now even though I don't yet have my Imac to look at the driver files... The INF file looks like this: [Version] Signature="$Windows NT$" Provider=%ATI% ClassGUID={4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} Class=Display DriverVer=12/20/2005, 8.204.0.0 CatalogFile=CX_29563.CAT [DestinationDirs] DefaultDestDir = 11 ati2mtag.Miniport = 12 ; drivers ati2mtag.Display = 11 ; system32 [ControlFlags] ExcludeFromSelect=* ; ; Driver information ; [Manufacturer] %ATI% = ATI.Mfg, NTx86 [ATI.Mfg.NTx86] "ATI Mobility Radeon X1400" = ati2mtag_M54, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7145&SUBSYS_13331043 "ATI Mobility Radeon X1600" = ati2mtag_M56, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_10B210 hope that these are the ones.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 Just 4 the record, neither Omega nor the Acer Driver from Travelmate 8200 did work.... Yea neither of those worked on my end either. I'm gonna try some from Asus and Toshiba now that I'm awake again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autoy Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Hey, just an advice, why don't you look for Everest and download the trial, look for hardware vendors and device IDs of missing drivers and just google them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurst09 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I think also Asus and Toshiba won't help... Its the special "Apple-Firmware" in the Graphic-Card thats such a pain in the ass... I've read some interview from a mac game mag with ATI. They said you would have to flash the Bios of the GPU to get all its features in WinXP. Doesn't seem too good to me but maybe the mystique BAMBIOS will do the job... Let's see what the next days may bring for all of us. Good night :censored2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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