Alessandro17 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 As seen in another forum: Originally Posted by...(omitted)I hate KDE4, even more than Gnome, and that is really saying something. I had never seriously considered using Gnome, but now I am beginning to believe that it is actually better than KDE4. Else I'll use Xfce4, as you are planning to do. I wish they (Xfce4) moved to Konqueror as the file manager (many of us are looking for exit strategies from KDE4 now). A way MUST be found to save KDE3.5 or at least most of its features. It has been said, and I agree, that KDE3.5 is the best DE of any OS. Killing KDE3.5 is a crime against humanity, LOL (but actually I am pretty serious). I agree 100% Please digg the related story: http://digg.com/software/I_m_keeping_KDE_3_5_9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Dman Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 As seen in another forum:I had never seriously considered using Gnome, but now I am beginning to believe that it is actually better than KDE4. Else I'll use Xfce4, as you are planning to do. I wish they (Xfce4) moved to Konqueror as the file manager (many of us are looking for exit strategies from KDE4 now). A way MUST be found to save KDE3.5 or at least most of its features. It has been said, and I agree, that KDE3.5 is the best DE of any OS. Killing KDE3.5 is a crime against humanity, LOL (but actually I am pretty serious). I agree 100% Yeah, I agree with you KDE 4 not good in performance and other things. I'll try KDE 4.1 and see I hope there's a different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 I'll try KDE 4.1 and see I hope there's a different. It isn't all that different. Actually Aaron Seigo said that some basic features won't be available before 4.2. But then it is the whole concept behind KDE4 that many, including myself, don't like. Even if eventually I used KDE4, I'd configure it to look and behave as KDE3.5 as much as possible. So, what is the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espionage724 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Well KDE4 is ok but I don't like the desktop interface. Like there is something different that I can't explain exactly but I don't like it that much. Other then that KDE4 is ok I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Dman Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 The thing that I don't like about KDE 4 is the performance and I don't like it's new interface I'm using 3.5 with Gnome. I wanted to update to KDE 4.1 I was thinking it will be good but I won't now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 Yeah, the new interface. That is what most people don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeeyes Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Yeah, the new interface. That is what most people don't like. I actually like oxygen, do u mean the plasmoids and stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 I actually like oxygen, do u mean the plasmoids and stuff? Yeah, oxygen is OK, it is how everything works (or doesn't) that it is not OK ( plasmoids and stuff ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeeyes Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Yeah, oxygen is OK, it is how everything works (or doesn't) that it is not OK ( plasmoids and stuff ). Yeah plasmoids still don't offer all the feature of 3.5.x, we might have to wait till 4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebcak Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 we might have to wait till 4.2 You seem to spend a lot time waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeeyes Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 You seem to spend a lot time waiting... Not really, I am 3.5.9 as default and I will only completely switch to 4.1 by OS 11.1 maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 Yeah plasmoids still don't offer all the feature of 3.5.x, we might have to wait till 4.2 4.2 will have a few added features and maybe it will be more stable, but it won't be all that different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeeyes Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 4.2 will have a few added features and maybe it will be more stable, but it won't be all that different. how come? what r they planning for 4.2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 how come? what r they planning for 4.2? Just what I said above: a few more features (nothing major). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeeyes Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Just what I said above: a few more features (nothing major). I saw a video, but can't find the link right now that allows the folder view plasmoid to act like a regular desktop so lets say if u r pointing to your desktop directory then it will act like a traditional desktop. I hope at least that feature makes it in 4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 This whole KDE 4 thing is really annoying me... Sure, it's not perfect yet - but the first alpha only came out just over a year ago! Compare it to Vista, where they spent 3 times that and still have a POS of an OS (and yes, I know KDE is just a desktop, but I think my comparison is still valid). KDE 4 is a HUGE change from KDE 3, and I think it is one in the right direction. They will be able to build much better features on top of the great new platform KDE 4 gives. Personally, I think they've been rushed into releasing it and that perhaps the 4.0 number should've been given to 4.1. But guys, get a grip - THINGS CHANGE, and change is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeeyes Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 yeah I like it so far, I am just waiting for it to get more stable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 As seen in another forum:I had never seriously considered using Gnome, but now I am beginning to believe that it is actually better than KDE4. Else I'll use Xfce4, as you are planning to do. I wish they (Xfce4) moved to Konqueror as the file manager (many of us are looking for exit strategies from KDE4 now). A way MUST be found to save KDE3.5 or at least most of its features. It has been said, and I agree, that KDE3.5 is the best DE of any OS. Killing KDE3.5 is a crime against humanity, LOL (but actually I am pretty serious). I'm pretty sure using KDE 3.5 is a crime against humanity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I'm pretty sure using KDE 3.5 is a crime against humanity... So true, so true. KDE 3 fell out of the ugly tree, got hit by ugly sticks on the way down. Then it rolled down the ugly hill, went crashing through ugly bushes at the bottom and landed in a big pill of ugly mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I don't like KDE 3.5, and if I don't like 3.5 I'm pretty sure I won't like KDE 4 either I prefer GNOME, so it doesn't really matter to me what happens, but since KDE 4 doesn't seem to be a huge hit obviously, its only logical that it is kept alive, at least until they get people to like KDE 4 just as much as 3.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 No. I'm not digging that, and I'm not going backwards. KDE 4 is a complete overhaul, but unpaid developers, of COURSE its going to have growing pains. It's the same reason Vista is just NOW being accepted and a pleasure to use after 18 months of pain. You just have to give new technology a chance. Stick to KDE 3 (or temporarily switch to GNOME like me) until you are comfortable with KDE 4. All this talk of a fork is simply outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 I'm pretty sure using KDE 3.5 is a crime against humanity... But so many people have liked, loved and of course used it. Before Ubuntu it was always by far more popular than GNOME. All this talk of a fork is simply outrageous. Nobody really mentioned a fork. But even if they did, forks are the most normal thing in the world of open source. Why nobody screamed blue murder when Ubuntu forked Debian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Why nobody screamed blue murder when Ubuntu forked Debian? Ubuntu forked Debian...? I'm pretty sure Debian forked Ubuntu, not the other way around... but correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Ubuntu forked Debian...? I'm pretty sure Debian forked Ubuntu, not the other way around... but correct me if I'm wrong. Debian came first. Ubuntu forked off later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scj312 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I like KDE4, just the problems need to be ironed out and I'll be all good with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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