WinMacLin Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I dont think there is anything wrong with Windows Vista. Its a good OS. Not to say that OS X is not good; its too a wonderful OS. But despite a lot of people complaining about Vista I have never experienced any problem with Vista as yet. Just it is a little different from XP. I think most of the complaints, hues and cries are made by people who knowingly or unknowingly contribute to the anti Microsoft propaganda created by many players who have their own interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob356 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 You are right. I also see nothing wrong with vista, but OSX is a better OS. Another thng is that Vista needs a powerful computer. Some $400 Wallmart computer just wont cut it. But the sad thing is those computers are the ones coming with Vista on them, hence the outcry. Now vista has other problems , and speed and stability are just a few. Now I'm not a Microsoft fanboy, or an Apple fanboy, I use a real mac, and PC and like them both. (So don't flame me ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulsion Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 i've been running the 32 bit version of vista for quite a while now and the only really big issue that i see with it is that it's very resource hungry. seems that the more you give it, the more it uses. currently on my laptop i have 3 gigs of ram and on boot with minimal startup items it uses a little over 900mb of it. kind of much if you ask me! i've gotten xp down to 230mb for a full install and 84mb with micro xp install. other than that, i really don't have any problems with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob356 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 That is exactly what I mean, it is a resource hog, and a cheap computer with 1gb of ram wont cut it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Speak for yourself. I ran Vista perfectly with 1 gb of PC2700, Athlon 64 3400+ Venice SSE3, Radeon X1800 GTO. It's funny how people complain how Vista is a resource hog, when they seem to forget that it's a new system. Basically, they compare it to windows XP, which is what...6-7 years old now? Vista is intended for newer systems, a single core 2 ghz P4 won't cut it, a 939 Athlon 3400+ does though. Vista also has way better memory management that XP had. Personally, I feel that Vista is a better Os than OSX, I like both OsX and Vista, but I can do more with Vista, and Vista is a lot more expandable than what OSX is for me. And one more thing, 2 gb of ram is the standard now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f41qu3 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Fine? For? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob356 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 1gb may be fine in a system like that, but I am talking about a $400 computer, integrated graphics, really low end. My System has 1gb, but discrete graphics, and an Athalon 64 X2 2.0GHz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 1gb may be fine in a system like that, but I am talking about a $400 computer, integrated graphics, really low end. My System has 1gb, but discrete graphics, and an Athalon 64 X2 2.0GHz. I ran it fine on an Xpress 200 before I had the X1800, so it wasn't even a full 1 gb of memory, 869 mb of ram. The only thing that I couldn't do with Vista with the Xpress 200, that I can now really with the X1800 GTO, besides playing my games(After tweaking Quake Wars, it even ran 800x600 30 fps medium quality), it played HD content, which is probably the biggest one for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi89 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Vista is great, people always complain about how much memory it usues but the thing is that it takes up memory based on how much you have in your system. Obviously on my system with 2gb ram Vista is going to take more of it then someone with 512 or 1gb. One of my mates used 1gb ram on his vista machine during the beta and all the way into this year and it was fine... but he said that there was a bit of a speed increase when he added another 1gb to the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankOS_Scripting Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Speak for yourself. I ran Vista perfectly with 1 gb of PC2700, Athlon 64 3400+ Venice SSE3, Radeon X1800 GTO. It's funny how people complain how Vista is a resource hog, when they seem to forget that it's a new system. Basically, they compare it to windows XP, which is what...6-7 years old now? And one more thing, 2 gb of ram is the standard now. Yeah, Vista is fine but it's a OS GUI base. GUI=ressources eater. Yes XP is old but not old enough to compare let's say Windows 98. It's like we talk about BMW and you said you prefered driving a Ford Fiesta. Doesn't make any sense... Vista offered a better performance with all these services and process running all time long, but XP is not GUI, his based on NT5 generation. Then Microsoft put them on the map with the true "NT". Personnaly, I gamed for a while in XP and my Geforce 5200 nVidia and I thought I was pretty cool but now, it's different. Two Gb minimum? True but OEM PC are not there yet. Another idea of Microsoft and OEM builders to make some more money lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft_Punk Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 meh, even as a windows user AND using Windows Vista (I cant use XP, cant find the driver for Intel Southbridge ICH8M ), i hate using vista, the only good parts is the bootloader for its amazing expandability and DX10, ssince i gots a 8600M GS, its awesome for DX10. I wonder wat happend to the Windows XP and DX10 project? was it the alka project?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankOS_Scripting Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 (I cant use XP, cant find the driver for Intel Southbridge ICH8M ) That's not for AHCI mode?! Simply go on Intel site and try to find your chipset embed instllator... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 meh, even as a windows user AND using Windows Vista (I cant use XP, cant find the driver for Intel Southbridge ICH8M ), i hate using vista, the only good parts is the bootloader for its amazing expandability and DX10, ssince i gots a 8600M GS, its awesome for DX10. I wonder wat happend to the Windows XP and DX10 project? was it the alka project?... DX10 is the most useless thing on Vista, nothing has really used it or offered any real benefits. Plus, DX10 on XP will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankOS_Scripting Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Vista in on between two periods of Microsoft. They launched Vista in 2007 in hope to shut the release of a new OS. Windows 7 is next near ~2010! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redliner Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 if Windows 7 is a compartmentalized version of Vista sans the obnoxious pop-ups... then I will revisit microsoft...until then my hacked copy of Vista (made tame and heavily modified) and OS X86 are all I need...oh can't forget the Linux live CD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Vista's great, a hell of a lot better than XP. I really like the direction their heading with Windows 7 as well. Of course, OS 10.5 is better, but I have no problem with Vista at all and use it daily for gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF123 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Vista caches things in ram to improve performance, that is why it uses up large amounts of ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redliner Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 um...just got home to find out that I now have a virus on my Vista install...back to mac I am again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(MoC) Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'm downgrading to XP soon, because I just can't take the work I have to put into Vista to keep it running the way I want it to. Honestly, I spent two days tweaking it and disabling Microsoft's bloat services along with doing some registry fixes. It will take Vista a long time to get to perfection, and SP1 barely cuts it. I'm not bashing Vista but yeah, fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Oh no. Not another "save Vista" thread. Microsoft will never IMO, make a user friendly, safe, robust and fast OS. Why? Because all MS thinks about is profit and they're good at brainwas.....err...marketing. They could have done it years ago with all the power (money + brains) they have but they simply choose not to. I mean, why should they when there's millions of drones ready to spit out money for no value? There, I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankOS_Scripting Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'm downgrading to XP soon, because I just can't take the work I have to put into Vista to keep it running the way I want it to. Honestly, I spent two days tweaking it and disabling Microsoft's bloat services along with doing some registry fixes. It will take Vista a long time to get to perfection, and SP1 barely cuts it. I'm not bashing Vista but yeah, fix it. Even if you tweak it or your deleting everything bloat on Vista, then it is stey the same. I was very happy to tested Vista for a while on my laptop hardware but for my personal use, it doesn't fit cause I make VM for troubleshooting etc. Anyway, we can't live whitout Microsoft and not more say passed to over openSUSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(MoC) Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Oh no. Not another "save Vista" thread. Microsoft will never IMO, make a user friendly, safe, robust and fast OS. Why? Because all MS thinks about is profit and they're good at brainwas.....err...marketing. They could have done it years ago with all the power (money + brains) they have but they simply choose not to. I mean, why should they when there's millions of drones ready to spit out money for no value? There, I said it. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espionage724 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 On my notebook, XP (of course) runs faster then Vista. Vista although plays a few games a lot faster then XP (UT2K4, HGL, Any game that uses Unreal Engine). I would pefer Vista over XP security wise. If I had better hardware I would consider using Windows Vista because I don't really see a big problem with it besides the fact it is resource hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMookMook Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Oh no. Not another "save Vista" thread. Microsoft will never IMO, make a user friendly, safe, robust and fast OS. Why? Because all MS thinks about is profit and they're good at brainwas.....err...marketing. They could have done it years ago with all the power (money + brains) they have but they simply choose not to. I mean, why should they when there's millions of drones ready to spit out money for no value? There, I said it. Now tell me is Apple any different? Apple's marketing is much worse than MS's if you are talking about brainwashing. The PC vs Mac ad's are so blatently wrong that it is not funny! Back to the subject Windows Vista is perfect if you don't have a $200 PC from Wal-Mart. I run it on my MBA it runs very quickly. It has a 20 second boot up time! To be honest with you I love Windows Vista! Mr Mook Mook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Now tell me is Apple any different? Apple's marketing is much worse than MS's if you are talking about brainwashing. The PC vs Mac ad's are so blatently wrong that it is not funny! Back to the subject Windows Vista is perfect if you don't have a $200 PC from Wal-Mart. I run it on my MBA it runs very quickly. It has a 20 second boot up time! To be honest with you I love Windows Vista! Mr Mook Mook Hey, there's nothing wrong with loving Vista (a triillion flies love excrement too but that doesn't mean I'll be all over it ). I'm just saying that it could and should be a much better system considering the company's resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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