REVENGE
Feb 22 2006, 05:19 AM
Hey guys. I've ALMOST created a bootable LiveCD of OS X 10.4.3 8F1111. I did this by getting Clone X, creating a dmg, dumping the dmg's contents, adding rosetta and the darwin bootloader, and finally putting it all into the original 10.4.3 install dvd image which I had emptied earlier. The big problem now is that when I boot the dvd, there are a bunch of errors regarding file permission, etc. I can't run repair disk permissions on this dmg in OS X because it its being mounted as read only. I need to use this dmg because i need the bootable information table at the beginning of the disk which references the darwin bootloader. I don't know how to append the boot table to a converted iso file because the file contains hfs partitions and UltraISO can only read, not write hybird cds. Can someone give me help in either getting a dmg to undergo repair disk permissions, or manually adding the boot table to the dmg file?
Btw, right now, i boot into wat looks like the single user mode shell. I'm almost certain that if i can get past this problem, the LiveCD will boot GUI.
ripoflive
Feb 22 2006, 05:23 AM
OMG I LOVE YOU MAN!!! ITS ABOUT TIME! MAJOR PROPS!!! (Now I cant wait till 10.4.4)
REVENGE
Feb 22 2006, 05:35 AM
A little more details: this was done using the program made by TED called CloneX. It runs using rosetta on 10.4.3 without a hitch. It creates a DMG file of your specified size and then adds essential system files. Then, it lets you choose watever applications you want to fill the free space left on your DMG. Then, you can either burn it or save it for later. What i did was I created a very basic dmg, then I viewed it using transmac. I found that almost all necessary files were included, and only the i386 folder in /usr/standalone and the rosetta folder in /usr/libexec were missing.
Krazubu
Feb 22 2006, 06:54 AM
Revenge, go to disk utility, select your DMG and click on the icon "convert". there you'll be able to make a read/write copy of it
REVENGE
Feb 22 2006, 06:57 AM
Thanks alot krazubu. The funny thing is that a few minutes ago, disk utility has just stopped working. *sigh. I'll do that as soon as the damn thing is ready again.
domino
Feb 22 2006, 07:21 AM
Props! Would love to try to repair borked installs with this without having to boot in windows and run vmware
REVENGE
Feb 22 2006, 07:57 AM
Ok, so ive converted the image. Now, how do i mount it read write? Its showing up as not writable still.
domino
Feb 22 2006, 08:05 AM
change the red to your image name.
mount isoname.iso -readwrite -owners on
REVENGE
Feb 23 2006, 12:54 AM
Actually, the command to use is hdiutil attach -readwrite /imagename. I'm rebuilding the new image right now, and im gonna see if vmware's gonna work with it this time around.
UPDATE: i used hdiutil attach -readwrite -owners on /Live.dmg. It attached allowing me to verify disk permissions, but the damn thing came up with no valid packages found error.
V DidDy 210
Feb 23 2006, 01:38 AM
Good Luck!
I hope it works soon so you can share the wealth and we can have a working copy of 10.4.3
i can't stand my 10.4.1 anymore it doesn't like to do much with sound.
-V
REVENGE
Feb 23 2006, 01:44 AM
Got repair permissions to do the trick. I had to copy my /Library/Receipts folder over. Now, im waiting to get this thing back into windows and test it out using vmware. If I'm successful, you'll see a new thread up!
FullMetal
Feb 23 2006, 01:46 AM
Would the LiveCD/DVD work with SSE2 machines?
REVENGE
Feb 23 2006, 02:02 AM
If it works, it should because the CD/DVD would use watever mach_kernel file you used in the system you made the dmg in.
DAMMIT: I'm getting an error 1309 when trying to copy the image file to my iPod. I've just been delayed another 30 minutes at least, because now I'm going to do an image conversion in disk util and save it on my iPod.
FullMetal
Feb 23 2006, 02:41 AM
Thanks REVENGE!
Can't wait to see the final result!
mindslip
Feb 23 2006, 04:25 AM
Quick note:
When you want to play with an image, use:
hdiutil attach filename.ext -shadow
and it'll mount it read/write, allow you to change it, but preserve it's original status (i.e. bootable iso, etc.) when you unmount it.
man hdiutil
for more details
Note - if you're burning a test disc, go into Disc Util and burn it *while mounted*.
mindslip
REVENGE
Feb 23 2006, 05:37 AM
Thankyou mindslip, but right now i need to get this damned thing to my windows partition. This has proved to be an exceptional challenge due to the fact that FAT32 cannot accept files bigger than 4 gb. I've obtained stuffit and im splitting it right now.
munky
Feb 23 2006, 10:46 AM
lol.. splitting files. is this what FART32 reduces us to?

good work my friend, hope it works out.
REVENGE
Feb 23 2006, 08:19 PM
Crap. Late last night, I was able to mount the converted iso of my dmg and try booting with VMWare again. This time, I got past the initial loading of kexts, but then I was shot down by a series of "error mapping module" errors to various things. Stuff about not being mach-o and dependencies not found/mapped. I will try to post a screenshot of the damn thing, but it looks like more tweaking needs to be done. I'm going to do some comparisons btw my image, the 10.4.3 installer dvd, and my actual system when I get back to my comp. In the meantime, any ideas?
REVENGE
Feb 23 2006, 11:25 PM
Attached screenshot of the error.
randomblame
Feb 24 2006, 05:36 AM
These problems could be due to the lack of support for tiger, I'll play with it I'm bored anyhows
DrX_UaCaRi
Feb 24 2006, 07:42 AM
QUOTE (REVENGE @ Feb 22 2006, 06:22 AM)

Hey guys. I've ALMOST created a bootable LiveCD of OS X 10.4.3 8F1111. I did this by getting Clone X, creating a dmg, dumping the dmg's contents, adding rosetta and the darwin bootloader, and finally putting it all into the original 10.4.3 install dvd image which I had emptied earlier. The big problem now is that when I boot the dvd, there are a bunch of errors regarding file permission, etc. I can't run repair disk permissions on this dmg in OS X because it its being mounted as read only. I need to use this dmg because i need the bootable information table at the beginning of the disk which references the darwin bootloader. I don't know how to append the boot table to a converted iso file because the file contains hfs partitions and UltraISO can only read, not write hybird cds. Can someone give me help in either getting a dmg to undergo repair disk permissions, or manually adding the boot table to the dmg file?
Btw, right now, i boot into wat looks like the single user mode shell. I'm almost certain that if i can get past this problem, the LiveCD will boot GUI.
Revenge, I've send you a Pm about this because I've pass this step a week ago, this was the easy part.
First you need to check things: Did you set proper Ramdisk? because Tiger needs to write into something to be able to boot. Second Is not better we associate together to finish either your or my project to make the realease quickly?
See my post "http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=9879"
The way you did you live disk is insteresting but quite complicated : In my site Area86.info go to the section links, there is interresting ressources for you. Hope we can achieve this dream together since i'm full of works to complete and i already sparing all my free time to this.
randomblame
Feb 24 2006, 07:52 AM
hurray someone else is workin on it I just wasted a dvd trying this last method though the good news is I have a darwin booter in case the mbr gets corrupt :S lol i'm gonna check out your site
(edit) ...checked out the site... oh boy links. I could have found those on google... Oh and look theres a LINK to google. I was hoping for some useful information. Oh well it's more fun to do it the hard way.
DrX_UaCaRi
Feb 24 2006, 08:23 AM
QUOTE (randomblame @ Feb 24 2006, 08:55 AM)

hurray someone else is workin on it I just wasted a dvd trying this last method though the good news is I have a darwin booter in case the mbr gets corrupt :S lol i'm gonna check out your site
(edit) ...checked out the site... oh boy links. I could have found those on google... Oh and look theres a LINK to google. I was hoping for some useful information. Oh well it's more fun to do it the hard way.
I could but didn't...

. So far I going to post my tutorial in few hours, just need to ,finish a work for a client first, then you will have a point to start.
Tiger use a different boot method than sooner Os X. If you have a mac and have Panther or sooner Try the BootCd Soft, i will help you find some answer. So far I see 3 people

including me doing that. I don't any compatible AMD proc i need beta test to see if my work does the job it. I've made the Cd In Os X since working under XP seems to be a waste of time for that. It's even better to work under PPC environement to do it but the Macbook pro is fine too.
randomblame
Feb 24 2006, 08:39 AM
lol alright cool I'll be waiting anxiously
I'm almost sad, every time I start a new project somebody beats me to it and my lazyness forces me to abandon my own work in favor of their already working solution... so until I see your method my work continues haha I'm actually pretty happy with what I've got going so far this is good fun
REVENGE
Feb 24 2006, 08:59 AM
LOL. I so did not see that thread when i searched the forum. Oh well, good job on that. I'll see wat I can do.
randomblame
Feb 24 2006, 09:09 AM
haha thats cuz he just posted it, yours was up first
DrX_UaCaRi
Feb 24 2006, 01:24 PM
QUOTE (randomblame @ Feb 24 2006, 10:12 AM)

haha thats cuz he just posted it, yours was up first

Yes his post was first but i've only post after the success of my attemps.
V DidDy 210
Feb 24 2006, 04:06 PM
this collaboration of minds will lead to something great i can tell.
lol
when you guys ar ready lemme know i want it baddd
-V
DrX_UaCaRi
Feb 25 2006, 09:53 AM
Ok i'm a little late, but i don't have a lot of time i'm uploading right now instructions about the live cd.
http://www.area86.info. Keep refreshing the page i'm posting all the stuff i wrote so far until sunday (Part 1 and 2).
DrX_UaCaRi
Feb 25 2006, 10:43 AM
.... i'm lloking that Iweb make some heavy page. Who is the man who said that it rezize optimise picture so they can be fast to load..... I'm going to optimize all of that by hand after
ReflectiaX
Mar 9 2006, 08:34 AM
Any updates?
ReflectiaX
Mar 25 2006, 12:04 PM
Bump!
How's the progress?
-Ref'X
REVENGE
Mar 26 2006, 04:19 AM
A uh certain person named DrX_UaCaRi is MIA.

Someone needs to uh give him a *POKE*.

*COUGH*
ReflectiaX
Mar 31 2006, 07:14 AM
Bump!
-Ref'X
REVENGE
Mar 31 2006, 11:03 PM
UPDATE: Project is currently not making any progress, even though work is being done. Reason: DRX has run into legal issues (SHOCK), so he is modifying the process to avoid these issues. Stay tuned for more.
treehel
Jun 27 2006, 03:31 PM
OS X isntaller doe not propertly working onj my system. Is there any way to download a prepared OS X Live? If there are problems with legacy, may you mail me to treehel@gmail.com?
BugsB
Jun 27 2006, 09:23 PM
-- subscribing --
REVENGE
Jun 28 2006, 05:42 AM
*sigh, well folks it looks like DrX is officially "dead" or sued out of his ass from what I suspect. I haven't been truely active in OSX86 stuff for months now. However, if there is still a lot of interest in a "Live" cd system, I think I can try and pickup where he left off... Your opinion please:
BugsB
Jun 28 2006, 08:14 AM
Go for it, if you ask me. Have you been using a virtual RAM drive as system drive? Because that can be written to.
Dragon
Jun 28 2006, 12:20 PM
yeah, i'm still interested
Baltazar
Jun 28 2006, 03:52 PM
Yeah, I think it would be a really cool way to try the OS out.
Mikemad
Jun 28 2006, 04:05 PM
would be great!!
lg
Mikemad
SuperHyperKid
Jun 28 2006, 10:06 PM
This would be quitwe awesome, and I am looking forward to it...
REVENGE
Jun 28 2006, 11:45 PM
Ah great, now it looks like ill have to take another trip down to that one pirate's bay and get myself a copy of JaS's latest release again.

So, if i decide to start again, look for a new thread in one of the dev forums.
Mr. Bond
Jun 29 2006, 02:55 PM
Interesting...I wanted to do something like this a while back, but it never really got of the ground. I remeber dabbling with Charle's Pre-release version of BootCD, and attempting to add in all the relevant files and whatnot...never got too far though. This was way back in the 10.4.1 days...maybe I'll try to install 10.4.6 again and help you out!
REVENGE
Jun 29 2006, 07:20 PM
Thanks Mr. Bond. As soon as I get 10.4.6 up and running somewhere, I'll make this a project under dev sections. Also, FYI Charles has stopped all development on BootCD for Tiger. He may resume again for Leopard, but right now it seems like we're alone in the dark ^^.
eric.c.mi
Jun 29 2006, 07:30 PM
QUOTE (REVENGE @ Feb 23 2006, 01:37 AM)

Thankyou mindslip, but right now i need to get this damned thing to my windows partition. This has proved to be an exceptional challenge due to the fact that FAT32 cannot accept files bigger than 4 gb. I've obtained stuffit and im splitting it right now.
There are plenty of nix type partitions that both mac and xp can read with open source software..
Do some reaserch. Look around on source forge, I cant remember the project name.
eric
Dragon
Jun 30 2006, 10:42 AM
revenge keep this alive... i'm counting on you to finish this live cd
Mr. Bond
Jun 30 2006, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (REVENGE @ Jun 29 2006, 07:20 PM)

Thanks Mr. Bond. As soon as I get 10.4.6 up and running somewhere, I'll make this a project under dev sections. Also, FYI Charles has stopped all development on BootCD for Tiger. He may resume again for Leopard, but right now it seems like we're alone in the dark ^^.
No worries, Revenge. I think I still have one of the Tiger Beta's he sent me, so like I said before, that can easily be used as a starting point. Creating a bootCD for PPC and x86 is generally the same, with the exception of things like Rosetta, decrypted binaries, etc...
Dragon
Jul 1 2006, 11:00 AM
how's progress?
is there anything i can do?
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