hello
i got osx installed after a lot of struggle and waiting and formatting and everything!
*sigh*
but, i have a few problems...
1) i can boot only in safe mode.. why? if i boot in normal mode, i just reach till that blue screen.. from there it goes nowhere no mouse pointer as well.. just the blue screen...
2) if i go to display preferences i can change my display to 1280x1024.. but if i reboot, it comes back to 1027x768... can i make it permanent? or is it reverting back coz i did this in safe mode(the only way i can boot)
3)my chipset is intel 865G based... in windows when i install the driver for the on board audio, it comes up as soundmax.. but i dont know the actual name of the audio thing on my mobo... is the azalia common to all? anyways, i installed azalia and i got no sound
4)this time instead of natit i tried with titan.. no quartz but earlier when it was natit, i had quartz ... can i uninstall titan and install natit? how?

by the way, the installation is uphuck 10.4.9
thanks a lot in advance

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edit :-
this problem was solved with the help of pcwiz
this worked 100%
the new problem is in the last post

i updated with pascal's updater..
my comp is 10.4.10 now..
but, all the above mentioned problems persist

Boot in safe mode with verbose (type in: -x -v at boot prompt)

And post up a screenshot in the error. If it boots in safe mode and not normally, then its usually a kext problem.

there is no error..
it just goes on booting..
and give me the login window with "safe mode" written in red...
kext problem..
means driver problem?

Sorry, I meant boot in verbose (-v) without safe mode.

hey pcwiz, i will do it like u said, but cant take a screen shot, coz am doin it in native, no VM
so, i will write down the error messages and will type it while posting..
hope that'll be fine

pcwiz...
i typed -v at the boottime..
no errors were there other than that airport driver not found thingy, which normally happens...
but, as soon as the logonwindow app is launched my monitor just turned off..
and never turned on...
even in safe mode this happens..
but, during safe mode, the monitor turns back on after abt 30 seconds...
my graphics card is Nvidia Geforce 6200 256mb AGP...
the drivers i selected for my card during installation were Natit v0.1 and AGPGart v2.0

You heve delete AGPGart from extensions then reboot
sory for my ingles.

Yep, delete AGPGart, you can't install 2 video drivers.

alright!
done....



coool...
now i can boot in native as well
but, the monitor turning off is still there...
but, it turns back on after abt 30 seconds.. thats kinda okie.. no probs even if it turns off.. but, what shud be causin it?
my mobo is Asus P4P800 VM which is listed in the HCL in os86project website..
and they say everything is working..
apart from this motherboard gettin turned off, i dont have audio..
anyways, am in the process of correcting it with the help of other threads..
but, can anyone please tell me why my monitor turns off as soon as the verbose mode screen displays loginwindow app started and turns back on after some time?
there is one lil problem as well.. if i take the "about this mac" i gets logged off and automatically logged back in!!!

audio problem sorted out with Macgirl's kext file
so as of now the problems i have are :-
1) Monitor turns off just before showin the login screen then turns back on after 30 seconds...
2) "About this Mac" will close all the open windows and docks and it feels like am gettin logged off and logged back in...
3) USB Web Cam is not recognized(IOUSBFamily has a problem enumerating a device... connected at some blah port.. some blah hub...)

I get the monitor turning off thing with mine too, before the login screen but it only turns off for 1 or 2 seconds. The problem with yours is the Natit drivers. Reinstall and install the Titan drivers for your card instead and don't choose Natit. The Natit drivers are also the cause of your About this Mac problem. Install Titan drivers and those 2 problems should be fixed. See this post for more info:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=413710

For your webcam, its quite common to have a Webcam that doesn't work with OS X. Se on the manufacturers site if there are any drivers for OS X.

Hope this helps
pcwiz

yeah, i will do that...
but uninstalling natit == removing the kext file from Extensions folder?
and reinstalling titan = putting the titan into the Extensions folder?
or is there an installer to do this job?
and its a thread dedicated to my GFX card
thanks a lot

Yeah, to uninstall Natit just remove the Natit kext(s) from the Extensions. To install Titan, get an install disc with the Titan drivers for your card on it. Then open the DVD and navigate to (inside the DVD) /System/Installation/Packages/ Find the Titan driver package for your card and double-click it to launch installer and install!

I have the same problem with the boot up.. I can not boot in normal mode but I can boot in safe boot.. What did you do to fix this?
Rich

rich,

Did you install 2 video drivers like Swami did? You can only install 1.

hey, pcwiz..
you are the man!
i uninstalled natit..
and reinstalled titan...
that solved all my problems..
it solved the "about this mac" crash..
it solved the system profiler crash..
it solved the "can only boot in safe mode" problem..
it solved the "monitor gettin turned off" problem...
i now have quartz.. quartz 2D... rotate... (where do i check to see whether i have CI..Core Image?)
dunno how to thank ya...

as of now i have just one problem...
if that gets solved, my osx installation can be sed to be 100% working...
"i need to get my mic working"

i have a doubt, when i had gone to the extensions folder, i saw a lot of ATI related kexts in there..
but, am not havin anything related to ATI..
so, why shud i have those kexts?
can i remove all the ATI stuff?
and do the "rm ATIblah.kext" ..."rm kextcache" "kextcahe -k...." ???(yea of course the complete command..)

You're very welcome

Answers to your questions:

1) To check if Core Image is enabled, open System Profiler, click on Graphics/Displays (or was it Displays/Graphics?) from the left. Then check the listing next to Core Image. If it says Supported, then its working.

2) Don't delete the ATI kexts or anything in the Extensions folder unless you know what you're doing. Just leave them alone, its not going to do anything to leave them there.

For your Mic problem, I'll try to help. I need to get a couple things straight:

First of all, your Creative Soundblaster isn't supported under OS X so you probably won't be able to use that.
So, in that case, are you using your onboard AD1980 for sound input and output?

core image, i will check as u said..
right now i am on XP...
gotta take some backups to my external HDD before i format and reinstall
today am gonna reinstall everything to my SATA as its detected now..
earlier it was not detected when i was on my VIA chipset based mobo..
so, i changed the mobo into an intel based one ..
hope everything will work..
after all u taught me what i shud do

okok am not gonna delete the ATI kexts, but, i asked coz i dont have any hardware from ATI...
and i also dint choose ATI during the installation...
dunno how those kexts came!!!

yea, creative soundblaster is not even detected
and yea am using the onboard AD1980 for the output...
its workin as stereo..
but, the speaker cord is connected to the mic port..
only then i get the sound

Its OK to ask questions, no worries

For the ATI kexts, they are installed by default in every OS X installation whether your card is ATI or not. They don't have a purpose and aren't used unless you have an ATI card. But as I said, leave them alone to avoid getting into a mess

I'm guessing its a SoundMax AD1980 am I right? I don't know much about these cards but heres what I suggest:

Install the Azalia Audio Driver (probably on your install disc) and see if your audio works with the normal connections.

If it doesn't, see this thread:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=34075

And scroll down to the SoundMax part and follow the instructions.

Regards
pcwiz

tht lil mic problem, well leave it.. its not a big issue for me, as i dont voice chat with anyone
so in my view my last osx installation was 100% working
thanks to pcwiz and insanely mac

now the new problem begins!!!
my previous installation was like...
win xp on a 140GB SATA
osx on a 200GB PATA
but, tht PATA HDD was from my bro's compy..
and now he needs it back..
i formatted it and gave it to him..
and i shrinked my winxp partition so tht i have 100GB free unallocated space for osx installation...
i used acronis disk director suite to format tht free space into a FAT32 Primary partition...
rebooted, and booted from the jas 10.4.8 DVD...
continue.. continue.. continue
disk utility..
selected the 100GB FAT32 partition..
erased it with OSX Journalled file system...
closed diskutility
selected that partition as my target destination...
selected the SSE3 patch...
and instaleld it..
everything went fine...
it asked for a eboot..
did tht..
but, my acronis OS selector detected only the windows boot
neways...
i booted into XP...
copied the chain0 into C drive and added it to the boot.ini file..
rebooted..
still its the same
what could be the problem?
nowhere it says that xp shud be on one drive and osx shud be on another..
there are a lot of people who installed xp and osx on the same drive which was partitioned into two
what could be the problem in my case?
pcwizzzz

swami, if you wish to fully utilise your video capabilities with AGP, (re)install the latest version of AGPGart.kext (I think it's 2.0?) and set your AGP Aperture Size in your BIOS to 128MB.

for reference sake, AGPGart.kext is NOT a video driver... it just makes your hackintosh recognise it's using the AGP bus and thus allows for utilisation of 8xAGP.

it will work fine with your current titan install.

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and about your latest problem:

the first thing i thought of was that you didn't set the partition scheme to MBR in your Options in the partitions tab of disk utility during your install. setting it to this should allow acronis to see your osx install.

Why use Acronis? Since you have XP you can use the existing XP bootloader to load OS X! And you don't need to do the MBR thing. Steps:

1) Boot Windows XP
2) Get your install disc and insert it into the drive
3) Wait till XP reads the disc.
4) Copy the "chain0" file from the OS X disc root and copy it over into the C:\ drive (place it in the root of the C drive)
5) Go into Control Panel
6) Open the Folder Options applet
7) Click the View tab
8) Choose the "Show hidden files and folders" option
9) Uncheck the "Hide protected operating system files" checkbox
10) Click Apply and then OK
11) Close everything and navigate to My Computer >> C:
12) Inside C:, find the "boot.ini" file (the file name appears as "boot")
13) Open the boot.ini file using Notepad
14) Add the following line to the file:

C:\chain0="Mac OS X86"

15) Save the file (File >> Save)
16) Reboot your computer and you should get to the boot menu and you can boot OSx86!

HTH
pcwiz

@diabz
that problem was solved...
i removed both natit and agpgart..
then installed titan..
everything worked flawlessly

@pcwiz
yea..
i had done this when i had installed xp on one hdd and osx on another hdd..
the chain0 methot worked..
but, this time am on a single hdd with two partitions and it was givin me a chain booting error!!!
so, i tried installing acronis, even acronis is not detecting my osx installation..
after the installation of osx it was supposed to go to the osx directly and shud have taken me to those initial setup screens..
it dint happen..
instead went to windows..
thats why i had tried with acronis..
still no luck..
neways..
right now i reinstalled windows givin it the whole 160GB
am gonna use disk director to resize the single partition and create a 100GB unaloccated space..
then am gonna format tht 100GB into a FAT32 primary partition..
then gonna use vmware this time to install, so tht i can check thru the forum
hope this is a correct way...

damn!
VMWare is givin me the following error
Click to view attachment

well..
i solved this by using my complete hdd for osx..
so, no windows now ...
neways not an issue for me..
yahoo messenger, google talk and msn workd on mac as well..
but, i have all my files in the maxtor hdd..
its in ntfs format..
osx is detecting it..
but its not mounting it!
tried several times to mount it via diskutility..
its not getting mounted
all the apps i had downloaded for mac are saved in tht very hdd...
by the way earlier it used to work, but at tht time i had turned the external hdd on during installation, this time i dint, i installed osx, then after i saw the desktop i turned this on, but am getting error

OK, heres what to do:

Reinstall XP and backup the files from the NTFS partition. Then format the NTFS partition as FAT32 (which OS X will detect) and restore the files that you backed up to the partition. Now remove windows and reinstall OS X as normal and you should be able to access your stuff.

One note: There is a 4GB maximum file size limit on FAT32.

pcwiz...
sorry for the late reply
its today tht i sorted it out, and have a working system now..
read ur pm just 2 mins back
what i did as i cud not see ur post....
used the mac cd and formatted the hdd as two..
one for osx and installed osx
the other as free space
then took win xp cd and formatted tht free space into two.. one as ntfs and one as fat32
in the ntfs i installed xp..
the fat32 partition is used to copy paste things from my undetected maxtor external hdd for usage in osx
then copied the chain0 file from the osx dvd and pasted it in the xp installation and added the c:\chain0 thingy in boot.ini..
now i have two boot menus!!!
one is by xp to choose xp or mac...
when i select mac it shows another boot menu to choose xp or mac...
this is weird!
and if i dont tap any key after selecting mac from the xp's boot menu, the mac boot menu goes to xp as default..
maybe coz xp partition is active?
or is there any method to edit the com.aaple.boot.plist and remove tht xp from it, so tht after selecting mac from the xp boot menu it sud go only to mac instead of waiting for me to "again" select mac???

No, I only installed the ones for the intel.. I have installed three times now.. only one that booted without safe boot was the original tiger vmware image that I used DD to copy to the partition
Rich

rich..
in my case if its like u said..
i will have to say even i installed "only for nvidia" but, the fact is tht i installed both titan and natit for nvidia..
but when i removed both, then installed just titan everything worked..
quartz, core image and everything
and the "can only boot in safe mode" problem was solved..
i also removed AGPGart

problems like this are nearly always video drivers. don't select anything during your install except the core system components for you CPU.

the video drivers are dodgy when applied during installation, i've never gotten them to work. but, natit dual 0.1 and AGPGart.kext 2.0 make my system scream, when installed and configured post-installation.

swami, incorrectly configured AGP settings when used with AGPGart.kext causes problems. i'd recommend not advising people to remove it as it is a very valuable tool when you do something simple like set your AGP Aperture size to 128MB. it's your prerogative whether you listen to the people who tell you how to fix your problems or not, but please don't condemn decent software. ta

Sorry Swami, that choosing mac 2 times issue is part of using chain0 with XP set as active. Just gonna have to live with it

diabz,

The video problem has already been solved using Titan. And if you mean that the boot menu issue is related to video, WRONG That issue Swami is experiencing with the boot menus is a well known issue with the chain0 method.

no, you're right, that is VERY obviously not what i'm talking about when i'm talking about video drivers.

and i will make this very clear for the very last time; i grow tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.

swami is using an AGP graphics card. one assumes that his motherboard supports AGP 8x. while his video is now utilising CI/QE/QE2D, his card is being recognised as PCI, due to not having AGPGart.kext installed. now MacOS X, like any other operating system, isn't going to try to utilise bus speeds that would exceed the architechture. therefore, with the OS using only the speed of the PCI bus, you will note average performance in intensive video.

AGPGart makes the OS recongise the AGP bus, and thus enables AGP 8x for faster video capabilities.

that is all it does.

real macs don't use AGP, therefore, obviously, the OS is gonna need some haxing.

edit: frustration set in, and this was a whole lot nastier before this edit. apologies to those who saw it.

Sorry diabz, didn't get you before

Swami, you might want to follow the directions and install AGPGart

okie..
so i will have live with tht two time selection for gettin into mac
okie
and abt the AGPGart..
i removed tht thinkin even agpgart is a video driver..
so, i will reinstall it back so tht my gfx card is recognised as AGP instead of it gettin recognized as pci
thanks to both of ya
i never sed anything against anyones advice
i followed everything just like i was asked to do..
all i said was tht when i removed everything and instaleld just titan, my video driver problem was solved...
neways..
back to the agpgart..
u sed i have to set my agp aperture size to 128?
but my card is 256...
no issues?

no issues, but it won't work as AGP unless you set it (aperture size) to 128MB.

my 256MB GF 5500 and my 128MB GF 6600GT both worked beautifully with the settings.

well...
there is an option in my BIOS to set the aperture size into 128mb...
is tht what u adviced me to do?
or is there an option within OSX?
am askin coz, if i change it in BIOS, wont it affect windows too?
neways, i dont know what this aperture size means

yes, change the aperture setting in your bios.

AGP Aperture Explained

diabz...
i installed the agpgart package i got from the uphuck dvd...
i rebooted as the setup asked me to...
before rebooting i repaired the permissions usin disk utility...
then was the reboot..
then i tapped del and entered bios and changed the agp aperture size into 128mb...
then saved..
then rebooted..
then tried booting in osx...
but all i got was a blue screen..
no mouse pointer as well
then forcefully resetted usin the cpu button...
then tried booting in safe mode..
it worked ...
i saw AGP instead of PCI in the system profiler...
but, the problem now is i can only boot in safe mode
u sed u used natit and agpgart..
but, i have used titan and agpgart..
do i have to remove my titan and go for natit as well?
but, when i looked natit..
there are four versions in natit unlike titan where there was just a single version
right now am typing from the safe mode booted osx

uninstall that version and download and install the latest version 2.0.

u mean natit 2.0 or AGPGart 2.0?
if its AGPGart 2.0, i had installed AGPGart 2.1

I think he means AGPGart 2.0

yes, AGPGart. my understanding was that 2.1 was for AMD and 2.0 was for Intel? could be wrong. I'd try AGPGart 2.2, with the same installation method as natit. http://www.x86dev.org/ otherwise, find yourself 2.0 (or if you can't, i might post a my working version)

if 2.1 is for amd, then tht was the problem with me
when ya asked me to install agpgart i installed the 2.1 version
thts why maybe i cud only boot in safe mode
neways, lemme try with agpgart 2.2 and titan

my result with titan and agpgart 2.2 was a failure
it will boot in verbose without errors..
and will give me tht blue screen..
and soon the mouse pointer "should" come, but instead the monitor turns black without gettin turned off
maybe titan and agpgart 2.2 is not workin as a combo on my mobo..
now lemme try with natit 1.0(i got only this as an installer searchin google ) with AGPGart 2.2

http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Natit

i've had a lot of success with natit dual 0.1.

diabz...
natit is not working for me..
tried with several versions.. 1.0... dual 0.1 dual 0.2 ...
everything will make my monitor turn off at login window..
then will turn back on after some time..
by then it wud show my desktop!
then tried titan...
its not givin me this error..
and tried several AGPGarts..
the only one tht i have workin is AGPGart 2.0
now am with Titan and AGPGart 2.0
in normal boot.. not safe boot like before..
but, after i installed AGPGart...
system profiler shows it as AGP...
but, Quartz2d and open gl is gone
my xbench score went way too down :(earlier it was not so high./..
was in 57
but, now with AGPGart its givin me a score of 43!!!
and
Core Image: Not Supported
Mirror: Off
Quartz Extreme: Not Supported

i thot the Quartz can be enabled with quartz debug...
but, the tools pulldown menu shows a grayed out "enable quartz"

check your aperture size.

checked..
i had set it as 128mb as u had said before..
dont really know whats happening
now even the sceensavers are like "cut..cut..cut..cut" hope u understood..
am not good in english
and, when i play a video in ful screen mode.. that too plays like "cut..cut..cut.."
it feels like the video is thinkin ---> "shud i play or not"

attached is the AGPGart that i use. try this one. i'm stumped if it doesn't work and you've followed all the instructions... i had a few problems in the past myself. good luck.