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verdee
PM sent to (XS)s0lid
(XS)s0lid
This is for everyone whom is going to order PCBs from me:
Well Diabolik is the last one of those who ordered PCBs and is the last customer who is getting hes boards, i don't have enought time to make these and don't have access to pcb cnc anymore.

If somebody have access to pcb router or can ect pcb, i can and i will bring the gerber files avaiable for everyone smile.gif
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QUOTE ((XS)s0lid @ May 9 2009, 03:42 AM) *
This is for everyone whom is going to order PCBs from me:
Well Diabolik is the last one of those who ordered PCBs and is the last customer who is getting hes boards, i don't have enought time to make these and don't have access to pcb cnc anymore.

If somebody have access to pcb router or can ect pcb, i can and i will bring the gerber files avaiable for everyone smile.gif


thanks for sending them!

i got mine this morning, was a little worried as it was in a royal mail jiffy bag saying damaged on it. but the pins bent back ok (fingers crossed). i was just wondering if you could post a pin out, as my firewire cable doesnt fit, it has the 8 wires, but the cable is 5 wires wide with 2 on the other side, also i dont know which way round the other pins are.

thanks again!
(XS)s0lid
QUOTE (ѕӎѳѳ @ May 9 2009, 11:48 AM) *
thanks for sending them!

i got mine this morning, was a little worried as it was in a royal mail jiffy bag saying damaged on it. but the pins bent back ok (fingers crossed). i was just wondering if you could post a pin out, as my firewire cable doesnt fit, it has the 8 wires, but the cable is 5 wires wide with 2 on the other side, also i dont know which way round the other pins are.

thanks again!


Getting that small pcb broken is almoust next to impossible unless you use sledgehammer smile.gif
I'll make pinout image tomorrow or at monday.
ѕӎѳѳҭңӌ
QUOTE ((XS)s0lid @ May 9 2009, 02:59 PM) *
Getting that small pcb broken is almoust next to impossible unless you use sledgehammer smile.gif
I'll make pinout image tomorrow or at monday.


yeh the damage wasnt to the pcb, but to the envolope. it had been ripped so they had put it in the bag to stop the contents from spilling. and it was only the audio and usb pins that were a little wonky! nothing major!

yeh a pinout would be good! this is the last part of my 3 year build!
wlazara
just got my pcb... thank you!!!! It looks great. Looking forward to the pinout...
(XS)s0lid
Pinout:
smile.gif

E: Idiot me: 12V = 30V, didn't check the voltage right :f

Please check from this picture the orientation of frontpanels cable:
pin at rigth uppercorner is pin1 smile.gif
blu3_v2
QUOTE ((XS)s0lid @ May 9 2009, 02:42 PM) *
This is for everyone whom is going to order PCBs from me:
Well Diabolik is the last one of those who ordered PCBs and is the last customer who is getting hes boards, i don't have enought time to make these and don't have access to pcb cnc anymore.

If somebody have access to pcb router or can ect pcb, i can and i will bring the gerber files avaiable for everyone smile.gif


(SX)s0lid, if you would be able to post your PCB design files online that would be awesome. Also, would it be possible to get a 1:1 photoshop file to work with too? I am thinking of trying to etch a PCB myself. Thanks
ѕӎѳѳҭңӌ
QUOTE ((XS)s0lid @ May 10 2009, 12:15 PM) *
Pinout:
smile.gif

Please check from this picture the orientation of frontpanels cable:
pin at rigth uppercorner is pin1 smile.gif


thanks for the pinout!! really helpful!

just a quuick question about firewire though. i have rewired the plug for your board, but i have one cable left (white) to fill thee 2 12v pins? i believe white is 30v.

thanks for any advice.
(XS)s0lid
QUOTE (ѕӎѳѳ @ May 10 2009, 07:41 PM) *
thanks for the pinout!! really helpful!

just a quuick question about firewire though. i have rewired the plug for your board, but i have one cable left (white) to fill thee 2 12v pins? i believe white is 30v.

thanks for any advice.


Oh damn it i didn't remember the voltage right, 12V pins are 30V with no load (in nervouschimps pic they're 25V which might be the lowest voltage with hi load.)... My bad with that one smile.gif
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/ieee1394_pinout.shtml here's firewires pin out if it helps a little.
ѕӎѳѳҭңӌ
QUOTE ((XS)s0lid @ May 10 2009, 06:05 PM) *
Oh damn it i didn't remember the voltage right, 12V pins are 30V with no load (in nervouschimps pic they're 25V which might be the lowest voltage with hi load.)... My bad with that one smile.gif
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/ieee1394_pinout.shtml here's firewires pin out if it helps a little.


lol thats the page i was using. shal i just stick the white one in pin 1 for your board? will that work?
(XS)s0lid
QUOTE (ѕӎѳѳ @ May 10 2009, 08:13 PM) *
lol thats the page i was using. shal i just stick the white one in pin 1 for your board? will that work?


Well yea if you have the other pins right...
Btw you've the cable coming from front panel right? just an btw smile.gif
DataLorD
Finally, the Mailman has arrived. what he got? Well, let's see:



A 2,7 GhZ Dual G5, with all guts in it, exept Superdrive and Harddisk. Sadly, the Logicboard is foul. So, lets make a nice HackMac out of it. First, Take it apart:




Apple-Salad anyone? smile.gif

Then pry off the Mobo-Standoffs. Just a swingle with the Pliers, and *Pop* no more Standoff:






Time to whip out the Saw, and get of the faulty Logic-Board, of case exept of this little Stripe of happyness:






Fits Perfectly.

Now lets make a G5-Like DVD-Drive. How? Well, first solder a white LED in it in place of the boring green one, and build a "Emergency-Eject"-Switch at he Back of it. Later i have noticed, when you Press on Top of the Front-Left of the Drive, it Presses the Original Button (It's a LG H22N SATA-DVD-R)

Okay, whats Next? Right, the New-Old Motherboard-Standoffs. I screwed them onto the "Stunt-Double", and Superglued them in Place on the Tray. Then i unscrew the mainboard, and *tada*, all Standoffs in Place, where they have to be. Just make a little Epoxy-Glue-mess now, and they are Perfectly in Place, withstanding the next Nuclear War:



I Love "5 Minute Epoxy Glue"



Im just now Installing the Motherboard. Tomorrow i have to buy a thinner soldering-iron. The one i got is to weld something like rain gutters. No good Idea to solder the Backpanel with it, and, well, my Logic Boards are...well, out of Stock smile.gif

Stay tuned for more smile.gif
ѕӎѳѳҭңӌ
QUOTE ((XS)s0lid @ May 10 2009, 07:37 PM) *
Well yea if you have the other pins right...
Btw you've the cable coming from front panel right? just an btw smile.gif


i have the cable coming from the front panel into your PCB. then the internal firewire header cable i bought only has 7 wires inside it. so i have connected all of them up, 2 grounds and the 4 wires for the twisted pairs, but i only have one wire left, the white power wire. if that helps you understand. bit puzzled with that really, but im not very good with actual electronics.

thanks!
pirloui
Looks good smile.gif
ѕӎѳѳҭңӌ
well, i have had possibly the best day yet on this project, and then possibly the worst ever!!

first off all i got everything in, and ready to go! all the parts, and then the watercooling bits and bobs. filled the loop, and went to start the pump....... not so good! its appears to be DOA!!!!!! so whilst fiddling round trying to reset it as per aquacomputers guidelines, i knock off a hose! so there was UV green coolant everywhere. so not so good. then my gpu block started to leak, but not on the fitment, on the actual block.

so i decided to drain it.... which was messy! it took me 3 hours to put everything in the system, and 5 hours to take everything out, and dry it!

cannot express how gutted i am, but i need a computer, so i set it up without the water and i am typing off it now! the feeling from going from a dell mini 9 1024x600 screen to a 30" 2560x1600 is amazing!

anyhoo, i am in discussions with aqua computer about my pump, so its gonna be another 4 weeks before i get another shot at building it fully again!

oh and (xs)solid, the pcb works brilliantly for the switch and led, but usb wont work... and neither will firewire. I was expecting that one but i would like usb. ill have a couple more plays!

EDIT: Please see attached screen grab! i have tried the usb header both ways on the pcb....

Click to view attachment
(XS)s0lid
QUOTE (ѕӎѳѳ @ May 14 2009, 12:33 AM) *
oh and (xs)solid, the pcb works brilliantly for the switch and led, but usb wont work... and neither will firewire. I was expecting that one but i would like usb. ill have a couple more plays!

EDIT: Please see attached screen grab! i have tried the usb header both ways on the pcb....

Click to view attachment


That's interesting, either theres a short circuit on pcb or something like that since it gives over current error... If you can take good picture from pcbs backside i could check is there problem with my soldering. Tho if you know somebody who works with electronics, ask him to check for bad solders.

I've tested USB, led, button and audio and those worked, but haven't tested FW since lack of time. Will look foward for that at this weekend...
wlazara
QUOTE ((XS)s0lid @ May 15 2009, 07:35 AM) *
That's interesting, either theres a short circuit on pcb or something like that since it gives over current error... If you can take good picture from pcbs backside i could check is there problem with my soldering. Tho if you know somebody who works with electronics, ask him to check for bad solders.

I've tested USB, led, button and audio and those worked, but haven't tested FW since lack of time. Will look foward for that at this weekend...



so using your pcb, the firewire isn't necessary for power ground?
(XS)s0lid
QUOTE (wlazara @ May 15 2009, 05:39 PM) *
so using your pcb, the firewire isn't necessary for power ground?


Power ground?
Mostly i just ment that i need to check the pinout smile.gif
wlazara
QUOTE ((XS)s0lid @ May 15 2009, 08:05 AM) *
Power ground?
Mostly i just ment that i need to check the pinout smile.gif



I'm confused because nervouschimp has written else where in this thread that the front panel connector uses the firewire to ground the power button... did you wire that differently somehow? I am a noob :-)
ѕӎѳѳҭңӌ
QUOTE (wlazara @ May 15 2009, 04:08 PM) *
I'm confused because nervouschimp has written else where in this thread that the front panel connector uses the firewire to ground the power button... did you wire that differently somehow? I am a noob :-)


i think, due to the way the pcb is designed, it can get ground from a number of places, though i may be wrong. I do have firewire plugged in, so it is possible that i have the ground grounded even though the rest of the firewire doesnt work (if that makes sense)

I have got firewire to work in a fashion. it powers my isight, but os x does not detect it. ill have a look at the back of the pcb when i get chance!
(XS)s0lid
QUOTE (ѕӎѳѳ @ May 15 2009, 06:50 PM) *
i think, due to the way the pcb is designed, it can get ground from a number of places, though i may be wrong. I do have firewire plugged in, so it is possible that i have the ground grounded even though the rest of the firewire doesnt work (if that makes sense)


Led, power button and FireWire share the same ground, usb has it's own.

QUOTE (ѕӎѳѳ @ May 15 2009, 06:50 PM) *
I have got firewire to work in a fashion. it powers my isight, but os x does not detect it. ill have a look at the back of the pcb when i get chance!


If it does give power to a device it's good, maybe the TPA or TPBs are mixed and it causes the problems with FW...
Living745
Hi,

i´m new and like to start with a modd, just got the case....

My budget is about $500 - 600 and i like to modd it as a PC (sorry i know...)
but for more i have no money...

I like to know if i can use this Motherbard and how you guy`s thinking about this?!

ASUS P5KPL-CM G31 1600FSB

I also looking that i buy a like custom made PC over ebay and installit then in the new Case.

What you are thinking about? I listet all parts in the picture, is this ok for $450?

And what would you recomment?

Thanks - and you guy`s made a really good job!
wlazara
x-solid, if you start from this post earlier in the thread and read the following 4-5 posts, it discusses the power/firewire ground issue I'm talking about... http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...st&p=614504

I'm wondering how this factors into the way you set up the PCB... let me know what you think!

thanks,

Wes
ѕӎѳѳҭңӌ
QUOTE (wlazara @ May 15 2009, 10:13 PM) *
x-solid, if you start from this post earlier in the thread and read the following 4-5 posts, it discusses the power/firewire ground issue I'm talking about... http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...st&p=614504

I'm wondering how this factors into the way you set up the PCB... let me know what you think!

thanks,

Wes


his pcb i think, uses the ground from firewire and distributes it to the power switch ground and led ground. this would explain why i can use the switch and see the led, as i have my firewire almost wire up correctly, just an error with one or more of the data cables.

please correct me if i am wrong however!
wlf6423
Can anyone tell me what type of screws are used on the motherboard standoffs? I have removed the standoffs with pliers and plan to remount them with jb weld, but I need to find some replacement screws first. Thanks.
nisto91
Am I better off with a mini atx or a regular atx mobo with this tray (which honestly I think is ugly, does anyone know of a nicer looking one?)
Gunner_Sr
Wow, I love what you guys are doing here. So I have ordered my G5 case.

What is the cooling like with just having the two back fans (not sure on what size I would need though) and a stock Intel CPU fan?

Next, I am looking at what to do with the back ports panel, that is, the right approach.

I like the daughter-board approach using the connectors from a G5 board, but it looks way to hard and time consuming. I am not keen on using a whole motherboard tray with backplate. I have seen someone do a hybrid approach. Which is what mobo manufacturers do, that is supply a custom port plate to that mobo and you insert it into the backplate of the case or MB tray.

My question is how would it look if I took that approach, I want to keep the two fan grills in place without cutting too much?

BTW - (XS)s0lid - are you still making/selling the front panel PCBs, etc. If so, can you PM me I would like to get one?

Thanks.
ZFG
Hi, I´m thinking of getting a G5 case, and I was wondering on where to get it in Norway or in Scandinavia.
Gunner_Sr
QUOTE (ZFG @ Aug 13 2009, 12:20 PM) *
Hi, I´m thinking of getting a G5 case, and I was wondering on where to get it in Norway or in Scandinavia.


Your best bet is a reseller of apple parts in your country, or you could try ebay and see if they ship to your location. The cases are a little heavy, especially if you want the power supply as well.

Cheers. smile.gif
akira9000
QUOTE (wlf6423 @ Aug 4 2009, 04:52 AM) *
Can anyone tell me what type of screws are used on the motherboard standoffs? I have removed the standoffs with pliers and plan to remount them with jb weld, but I need to find some replacement screws first. Thanks.



they are m3.5 anodised and are a pain to get hold of.
I found it easier getting some m3 stadoffs the height I needed and just getting some m3 screws to go with them

Anybody here willing to make up a front panel to ATX converter lead for a few £$€?

I don't think Ill have the time and its the last part I need.
Thath0r
QUOTE (akira9000 @ Aug 15 2009, 04:25 PM) *
Anybody here willing to make up a front panel to ATX converter lead for a few £$€?


If there is somebody, I'd also be very interested! smile.gif
nerdalertdk
QUOTE (Thath0r @ Aug 15 2009, 05:44 PM) *
If there is somebody, I'd also be very interested! smile.gif



what do you meen with atx to front ?

Something like this ?
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Thath0r
QUOTE (nerdalertdk @ Aug 16 2009, 10:07 PM) *
what do you meen with atx to front ?

Something like this ?
Click to view attachment

Yes, in a way. I think in this thread there was once a guy who made some of 'em. Let's just say it would reduce the work quite a bit. wink.gif
akira9000
QUOTE (Thath0r @ Aug 17 2009, 09:10 AM) *
Yes, in a way. I think in this thread there was once a guy who made some of 'em. Let's just say it would reduce the work quite a bit. wink.gif



yeah , like that but with the firewire and usb wired in too
DiaboliK
QUOTE (akira9000 @ Aug 17 2009, 03:24 PM) *
yeah , like that but with the firewire and usb wired in too



last ive seen the xs(solid) pcb's were having problems and when i tried to get 3 of them i got scoffed off so i'd say make your own...
Thath0r
QUOTE (DiaboliK @ Aug 18 2009, 01:54 AM) *
so i'd say make your own...

Yeah, BUT HOW?
nerdalertdk
QUOTE (Thath0r @ Aug 18 2009, 07:24 PM) *
Yeah, BUT HOW?


here all you need

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...t&p=1226642
akira9000
thanks for the link but its the time involved thats the issue, not the hardware/instructions thats the problem.

If I have to I will indeed be knocking on of these up for myself. Guess I'll just have to be patient.

Thath0r - whereabouts in the world are you.....UK, US, Euro?
If I have to make 1, I guess I may as well do two at the same time. Could mail you one for a small donation to cover the postage. Always good to practice my soldering anyway, it may be 2 or 3 weeks before I get time though
bjarnero
QUOTE (akira9000 @ Aug 19 2009, 12:09 PM) *
thanks for the link but its the time involved thats the issue, not the hardware/instructions thats the problem.

If I have to I will indeed be knocking on of these up for myself. Guess I'll just have to be patient.

Thath0r - whereabouts in the world are you.....UK, US, Euro?
If I have to make 1, I guess I may as well do two at the same time. Could mail you one for a small donation to cover the postage. Always good to practice my soldering anyway, it may be 2 or 3 weeks before I get time though


Hi,
I´d be interested, too...
happy to donate, I need two, though,
one for me, one for my brother, we're doing two G5's...:-)

I live in Copenhagen, Denmark
justaviet
Does anyone have some of the internal stock apple parts they ripped out when modding??

I'm looking specifically for:
G5 Heat Sink Cap
PCI Divider
Power Supply Cover
and the plastic wire management thing under the stock logic board

PM me
olinboy1
Mac Pro Case for sale I found on eBay. I'm not in the market for another build, but I thought this would be a good place to bring it up.

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=183449
ruslan120
Hey guys! I was having a couple of problems with dvi-hdmi scaling and the monitor's hdmi reading (it would show a big glaringly blue screen and flash until it found a signal) so I whipped up a dual socket DVI plate in one of the fan grills. I've updated my worklog and not double posting pics here because I'm being cheap and not re-paying for a photobucket pro account smile.gif

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?...6579&page=4
ronsega
Started on my G5 w/PC mod. Lots of information on this forum/thread. Just want to share my approach of wiring up the G5 front panel for ATX front panel.

Here's my wiring harness with USB IDC connector. I re-used ribbon from an old IDE ribbon cable. Joined the wire harness using jumper wires and header pins and soldered them to the ribbon cable and attached to the IDC/jumper connectors




Tested this on my current hackintosh setup. Powers up, LED lights up, USB (verified working) and Firewire (only verified to power device), sound (not verified yet)
wlazara
awesome! any chance I could talk you into wiring one of those up for me biggrin.gif very willing to pay!!!

AndrewH
QUOTE (wlazara @ Sep 21 2009, 11:38 PM) *
awesome! any chance I could talk you into wiring one of those up for me biggrin.gif very willing to pay!!!



Same here, I'll definitely cover your time + cost. Please let me know!

Thanks,
Andrew
ronsega
I can make extras probably 2 at a time on a weekend though. I was thinking what would be the easiest for somoene to hook up the end of these (blue wires) to the G5 front panel wire harness, I think I'll label them with the pinout number of the G5 pinout for direct plug in with the header pins.

So if still interested PM me.

-Ron

QUOTE (wlazara @ Sep 21 2009, 11:38 PM) *
awesome! any chance I could talk you into wiring one of those up for me biggrin.gif very willing to pay!!!



QUOTE (AndrewH @ Sep 23 2009, 09:46 AM) *
Same here, I'll definitely cover your time + cost. Please let me know!
Thanks,
Andrew
Neonflux
QUOTE (ronsega @ Sep 27 2009, 06:07 PM) *
I can make extras probably 2 at a time on a weekend though. I was thinking what would be the easiest for somoene to hook up the end of these (blue wires) to the G5 front panel wire harness, I think I'll label them with the pinout number of the G5 pinout for direct plug in with the header pins.

So if still interested PM me.

-Ron


Can you also make one for me please?
I created something similar, but it seems that wires are touching at the other end to each other , as mine is not as neatly done as yours.
gitano
Heyho,

So after reading in these excellent forums for quite a long while i decided to start this mod as well. Hackintosh in a standard pc case is fine...but dunno, somehow something was still missing. Yes, a shiny enclosure. All the available lian-li etc cases didnt satisfy me, so after i finally stumbled over this excellent thread i decided: hell yeah, lets do it smile.gif.

Here are a few first shots of my new (well, actually the hardware is quite old tongue.gif) baby, which started modding last w/e (pardon the crappy mobile phone pics..still have no no decent camera, mmpf):


A first shot of the tray fitted inside the cut out rear. I first have been planning to keep the original rear (as i suppose a lot of modders here did biggrin.gif) until i had some luck purchasing an old ripped off aluminium case from a local pc dealer for just 10 bucks, which tray was removable and had just the perfect size smile.gif.
Dunno, would have been cool to keep the original rear i/o together with the original pci slots... but that would've been a mayor pain in the ass also...soldering all the plugs, fitting it into a space as broad as 2cm, and re-doing all the work once u decide to buy a new mainboard... this way it is just usable and modular. And who looks at the rear all the day anyways wink.gif.


A first testing setup, i still have the PSU in front of the CPU cooler, which i had running without a fan in the beginnng. Which worked quite well on idle and normal use, never tested it on more power consuming tasks. Atm, i have a slim cooler with a small fan running at lower rpms between cpu and psu, this works quite well, but is a bit noisy. Am planning to go for a watercooling solution anyways, way to go with this case smile.gif.
The harddisks are still running in the original cage, which is not that best solution in terms of denoising and cooling the disks, imho. Still havent connected the 2 fans up there, will do that another day and see what they do (and how much noise they produce...). Oh, and btw, if u havent got the original hdd screws for that cage: GO GET EM. They definately make a difference in noise biggrin.gif.


This is an pretty actual shot of the rear featuring the cut for the side lock, the psu rear in the original tray fanhole and a new cut out hole for the psu rear exhaust (or maybe a 2nd future fan, in case i am planning to fit the psu in the top departement of the case). And, damn, i need to get a real camera tongue.gif

Todo list for the very next task:
Building a new cage in front departement of the case outta 4 aluminium corners going from the bottom to the upper departement. Will have ca. 5.25" size and holding:
a) a slim and long radiator and fans in front of it
cool.gif denoised hdd's
c) water pump at the bottom

Well, never thought that i would've been able to get this case up and running in 2-3 days, but i did. And yes, a Dremel is an excellent tool biggrin.gif

greetz,
gitano
n1c3jack3t
I sent out a few PMs to people who had previously made some sort of solution to connect the front panel to the mobo. I'm a complete n00b with wiring and pins/pinouts so in looking to pay someone for their services to mock up a cable that connects to the 2x9 g5 plug and has some headers to plug into my mobo for the power button/led/USB/FireWire to function correctly. Please pm me or let me know if you're interested. My board is a GA-G31M-ES2L. Thanks!
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