tried out that temp monitor, it'll only read the temps on hd's in the 965p-ds3

Greetings all,

Would an ADD2 card (PCI-E) with 2 DVI ports be supported on the GA-965P-DS3 ?

Example:

I have 2 Apple 20" Cinema Displays (Both of which are DVI)
I would like to use an ADD2 card with 2 ports and hope that this will support
both screens at full resolution on this motherboard.

ADD2 Card in question:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16815133002

Any insight on this would help plenty, being that Dual Display support is of highest priority to me.

Cheers

Well, that's what I want to hear! Then until I try out JaS 10.4.7, I can blame it all on Goatsecx's 10.4.6 DVD



The card will work - but I doubt it'll work in OSx86. So far, on ATi Radeon graphics cards have been able to fully function with no problems.

Just an idea for some of you having problems, I originally connected a USB external DVD burner up to try to install the OS. That worked, but it didn't see the drives similar to what you guys were having before you figured out the purple port thing.

Then I had the idea of connecting up a USB hard drive and installing OS X to that. Sure enough so far so good, its installing from my usb DVD to my usb hard drive, and its actually moving pretty fast I think.

If I decide to keep things like this, I won't even need a boot selector. I just have to connect the usb drive up and it will boot to OS X, and without it, it should boot to windows XP. I'm sure I'll take a performance hit though running from a usb drive. Total install time is supposed to take about 25 minutes though so that doesn't seem to bad all in all.

Finally got it installed, used the 2 purple sata connectors for my HardDrives, and the yellow/orange connecter for my DVD (which hada IDE to SATA converter on it) Installed fine and am using it now.

Theguy you have a Pentium D or a Conroe?

i think the temp monitor reads ok from Conroes can anyone with conroe test it?

THANKS!

@SABR, you arent ok man, i have Ati Radeon X1600Xt and really works perfectly but we cant use two monitors at the same time.

@SYNTHOLOGY That card could be an amazing discovery, from what i have read it uses the GMA950 so it should work under osx and probably overrdes the VGA output and brings another DVI output, if that thing works as it appears its a reat discovery for INSANELY MAC, if you can get a try on it and keep us informed!!

ARGH!!!

So I left it installing, and it was working GREAT all the way up until the VERY END. It was installing a script for an intel update and locked up. The log shows it crashed.

I moved the drives to connect to the purple connector and switched to ahci. So far so good. The drives are seen and I am about to install again. Hopefully it gets past where it hung before.

E6300 "Allendale" which is just a 2mb cache Conroe.

Well either I'm doing something wrong or I've got a crap chip, I'm still stuck at a 380fsb. I can't figure it out either. It's a wall that I can't get past no matter what, the system just won't POST with anything higher than 380.

Aberracus,

As far as I know, the GA-965P-DS3 does not have a VGA port on it. However, the ADD2 technology is sympathetic to Intel graphics chips and feeds its video drive off it. Its like turning a motherboard without a VGA port, into one that does have onboard video. I have discovered that the ADD2 cards do not transfer DVI to VGA at all. Meaning that a converter is useless, probably explains why allot of other good fellas from the community are not buzzing about it. The ADD2 card does however transfer DVI signal because that's what its for. The majority of the users here seem to have VGA LCDs and CRTs, no DVI. Theoretically, the card should support fine on apple displays, although it won't cut it on hard core 3D experiences, QE and CI should be fine at dual 1680 x 1050. I'll keep everyone informed.

Cheers

@Synthology

just to clarify...the add2 cards will create onboard video slots on a motherboard without onboard video???

i think i misunderstoof, but hopefully not. the reason so is that i ahve dual displays and it would be wonderful to have fully accelerated osx on an intel bad axe (D975XBX) mobo both on dvi.

no, the 975 mobo doesnt have integrated gma950 or gma900 graphics, neither the 965, for this card to work it must have integrated graphics.

Much of the people in the comunity as myself are using LCD screen tru DVI conectors without conversors, and yed the ADD2 card doesnt ouput DVI-I just DVI-D, wich means only digital signal

Are are overvolting the MCH 0.1v's? How about your RAM?

I can't get JaS 10.4.7 to even boot from the disk properly. I type -v and it comes up with a panic, just before that, it says:

Unable to find drivers for ACPI platform

How come you guys got it to work properly? I have chosen fail-safe boot options in the BIOS, and still it won't work...

I have been away for some time. I am in the middle of my masters degree. It's good to see the thread still going very strong. This motherboard is becoming a viable option for a hackintosh. Thanks everyone for your hard work. All it takes is a little inquisitive nature!

I have not been able to get my video card to work. I think I am going to switch cards. Seeing that SABR has had luck with the X1800XT is good news.

SABR: Anything you find undesirable about the X1800? Are you running DVI, VGA? Full support for QE/CI? Standard Boris method or Neophus installer?



Also, thanks for updating my original post in my absence. The more users that see this board as a viable option, the more people we will have working on making this board compatible.

(SAPPHIRE) X1800XT has full support (QE/CI), with the Neophus Instaler (www.installers.dl.am), using VGA. I am not getting any artifacts. Has been tested on 10.4.4/6, but not 7 (shouldn't be any problems). I highly recommend it, however not sure if DVI will work, as I can't test it...

Hello guys


This is a great thread. I am going also to buy a Gigabyte board but the DS 4 version. This version has integrated Firewire integrate. I think this will work out of box. I will also buy a E6300 (1.86 ghz) Intel CPU. I will post the results asa I have the system.


I have 2 questions.

1- I have will have 2 harddisks. 1 SATA and 1 IDE. And I will have a IDE DVD-rerwiter. So I need 2 convertors right? Newegg doesnt ship to europe though. I heard these things were for sale also on ebay? Anyone knows where exactly ?


2- I am a noob on memory. I have a couple of them here. Suggestions and explanations about choice are welcome. (I would like to overclock the system but I am not willing to invest in heavy water cooling systems).


(170 euro) GSkill
DDR2 G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-1GBHZ 1024 MB Kit, DDR2-800, CL4-4-4-12 (2x 512 MB), HS (Black), Retail

Specification
Capacity 2GB (1GB x 2)
Speed 800MHz DDR2 (PC2-6400)
CAS Latency CL 4-4-4-12
Test Voltage 2.0~2.1 Volts
PCB 6 Layers PCB
Registered/Unbuffered Unbuffered
Error Checking Non-ECC
Type 240-pin DIMM
Warranty Lifetime



(163 euro) OCZ
OCZ EL DDR2 PC2-6400 / 800 MHz / Enhanced Latency / Platinum XTC Edition / Dual Channel


800MHz DDR2
CL 4-5-4-15


(166 euro)
Kingston HyperX Dual Channel 1024 MB, PC6400, 800 MHz, 4
Kingston HyperX Dual Channel

Description: 1GB 800MHz DDR2 Non-ECC Low-Latency CL4 (4-4-4-12) DIMM (Kit of 2)
Detailed Specifications: Standard 64M X 64 Non-ECC 800MHz 240-pin Unbuffered DIMM (SDRAM-DDR2, 2.0V, CL4, Gold)
Additional Info: Memory timings are 5-5-5-15.
Mfgr's System P/N's: N/A
Form Factor: Memory Module
Pieces/Unit: 2
Warranty: Lifetime


(166 euro)
Kingston HyperX 1024 MB, PC6400, 800 MHz, 4
Kingston hyperx

Description: 1GB 800MHz DDR2 Non-ECC Low-Latency CL4 (4-4-4-12) DIMM
Detailed Specifications: Standard 128M X 64 Non-ECC 800MHz 240-pin Unbuffered DIMM (SDRAM-DDR2, 2.0V, CL4, Gold)
Additional Info: Memory timings are 5-5-5-15.
Mfgr's System P/N's: N/A
Form Factor: Memory Module
Pieces/Unit: 1
Warranty: Lifetime



I just found this website. Maybe someone take a look and suggest the best 3 rams to me.

[email=http://www.alternate.nl/html/shop/productListing4C.html?group=manufacturerName&cat1=22&cat2=230&cat3=000&treeName=HARDWARE&Level1=Geheugen&Level2=DDR2&]http://www.alternate.nl/html/shop/productListing4C.html?group=manufacturerName&cat1=22&cat2=230&cat3=000&treeName=HARDWARE&Level1=Geheugen&Level2=DDR2&[/email]

thanks

xerxes

I've messed with every voltage setting I could, I've tried clearing the cmos and just jumping straight to a high OC, still no luck.

After talking with a few guys on Xtreme-systems, I've got 1 or 2 other options, and then I'm told it might be my PSU. It's nothing special, and apparently the DS3 is a bit bitchy with PSU's. I'm not hugely worried about it, just disappointed so far that I can "only" get an 800mhz OC (I never thought I'd say that )

Try doing "Platform=X86PC", though I run with the acpi one just fine? Or go into the bios and change your ACPI settings. I normally run on S1, but I think it did work atleast once on S3 (not to sure on that).

You try googling the panic codes?



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IDE-to-SATA-Converte...1QQcmdZViewItem

There's one for you. When buying one just make sure it's got the FEMALE IDE connector on it, it'll match the plug on the end of an IDE cable.

Dig around on ebay for a couple, and feel free to PM me the links and I can tell you if they are right.

OMG! bidding starts at 1,50 euro! I have to buy those )&#$#&$ things for 30 euros! here. Man the stores here are thieves.

I got an sapphire x1900gt and it works great using the borisbadenov/neophus installer. I use a dvi to vga converter, no dual monitor support, though I get the same image in two displays. Full QE/CI. JaS 10.4.7 got the installer for ati x1000s in it.

Xeres, get the G.Skill RAM. IMO, that is the best out of those 3 you have posted



Well, I have tried the "Platform=X86PC" thing. I have also tried setting the ACPI settings to S3. It just doesn't want to work. Also, before it gets past the Darwin Boot Prompt (where it says "Loading 4235053 Mach Kernel" (or whatever number it is)) it comes up with an EBIOS Read Error... I have a feeling it's just a corrupted download, or it didn't burn correctly, but I'm not sure...

I'll try googling the panic codes tomorrow, thanks for the suggestion.

try S1 acpi. S1 is my normal setting anyway.

off-topic-ish: what power supply are you using?

Hi SABR


I think I have found one that is much cheaper but looks better on paper.

(127 euro) Mushkin DDR2 XP2-6400 Dual Channel 1024 MB, PC6400, 800 MHz, 4

Mushkin

Frequency: 800MHz
Latency: 4-4-3-10
Parity: Unbuffered
Voltage: 1.9V-2.1V
Pins: 240
Module: 64Mx64
Chip: 64Mx8


1- Are these ok ? Not many people use it with Core2Duo on extremesystems. Also I wonder what you guys think about ATI1600Opro 256mb (90 euro) sapphire versus ATI1900Ogt 256mb (200 euro) sapphire. Is the 1900gt really worth the 110 euro ? Or should I invest that in extra 1gb ram? Or should I take the 1900gt now and extend memory later on?

2- Can someone post a step by step guide what they did to install OS X for this system.

Ok, thanks, I'll give it a shot.

I have the Antec TRUEPOWER 2.0 TPII 550 Watt PSU. It is very stable and powerful as far as I can see. Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817103931



1) Yeah, ok, go with that RAM. I am not sure how good quality mushkin RAM is, and I don't know if you are going to be able to get it to boot with the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3. As you probably are aware of, many people have been having problems with RAM modules which require 2.0v + to run. This is because the default RAM voltage setting is set at 1.8v, thus they are underpowered. As far as I can see, you'll be ok with that RAM, as it only needs 1.9v to run, so 1.8v will probably suffice

2) A step-by-step guide isn't really that important nowadays... It works just like you would install XP. Change your 1st boot device to CDROM, and boot of the OSx86 disc

Oh, and 3) If you are only going to want to run OSx86, get the X1600. If you are going to be gaming, with XP, get the X1900

Any one working on dual monitor by any chance? I noticed something interesting: I have a sapphire x1900gt and OSX only reconizes a monitor in one of the connectors, the other connector just shows the same image with the same settings of the first. It only reconizes the 2nd monitor if I disconect the 1st one but if I have both or switch them the one on the first port is the one that gets always reconized.

Also, is there a way of turning of the message "press any key to continue" after the sata raid port is initialized?

Well guys a made a little howto in the Genius bar/tutorials section for getting this board to work.
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry194656

If you've got any additions or corrections please let me know.






Probably in other threads, this thread is more about getting the board itself to work, even if it does go a little OT.



Nope, just gotta put up with the extra wait (it does continues to boot after a few seconds).

I'm installing Jas 10.4.7. on DS3. I put HDD on purple SATA controller, use DVD through USB, selected AHCI in BIOS. But installation takes a LONG time (it's installing right now) - it says about 2 hours. But most people say it takes about 25min for them. Anyone has an idea what's going on? Is it possible that USB is working on 1.1 instead on 2.0?

This is EXACTLY what happens to me! It said 2 hours and 53 miutes last time I tried. I haven't figured out why it's doing it either...

usb 1.1 is a possibility. Sabr you are using an SATA adapter on your DVD drive though weren't you? I've been racking my brain trying to figure this one out.

There has got to be something you 2 are (not) doing that I am (not) to get this to work.

Run the installer with "-v" and note down any error messages, I can compare it to mine.

A snapshot of the output during the installer boot would be nice. I just don't know how to grab it in bsd. I'll dig around.

I found out that usb 2.0 must be working ok, since i let the installation for some time and fiugred out from the installation reports for packages (how many files, how long did it copy, how many mb), that speed can go up to 18 MB/s sometimes.

Ill try to post photo with -v output

thanx

I just set the new world's record in time taken installing Mac osx - 6 hours and a half!

I've no idea why, but i suspect it might have to do something with these sata controllers, when I start my mac osx on purple ones it takes ages to load, but if i use the orange ones it boots normally.

Exactly the same with me. However, when we use the orange ports, they operate at 4MB/s read/write

Maybe try to get USB DVD and see what happens.
Btw, do you have F4 BIOS?

Btw, after installation I also disabled AHCI and set back to IDE and then used orange ports and it works fine now (on mac now).

Okay, I *think* I've figured it out.

It is to do with the version of OSx86 we are using. I just popped in an old 10.4.3 disc, and it booted up the installation MUCH quicker than the 10.4.6 Goasecx and 10.4.7 JaS.



Yes, but do you have full Read/Write speeds to your HDD? Use XBench to find out

thedguy, could you tell me the name of the torrent and the place you got it from please? Thanks.

Yeah, you're right - my hdd speeds suck.

btw, does this orange sata connector also makes windows run so slow?

no. Orange ports are on a different chipset that mac doesn't support. Windows runs fine since it has support for it (as long as you install the chipset drivers from the cd or from intels site).

To clear things up (again), the ORANGE ports are not influenced by the "Onboard SATA/ide" settings. adjusting that to "ahci" "ide" or "raid" will NOT effect those ports. They WILL modify the PURPLE ports.

the “Sata Port0-3 Native Mode” is for the [b]ORANGE[/b[ ports. This enables/disables AHCI for these ports. This is why OSX won't work with drives attached to these ports when it's enabled. OSX doesn't support ICH8 and therefore SATA ahci on this chipset.

By disabling it, the chipset makes the drives act as IDE drives, and mac is capable of controlling them as very basic IDE drives (explains the slow speeds). These ports probably follow some standard IDE setup intel has been using for decades to allow mac to atleast see them as simple ide devices.

SABR: check pms.

Thanks for the PM's thedguy.

I re-burnt the disc, and I get no EBIOS errors. However, it still isn't working for me... Do you have H.D.D SMART enabled?

Also, something that will definately interest you, F6 BIOS IS OUT!

I'm going to download an install now. It says it helps (Conroe) E6300/E6400 overclockability! They should get their facts straight though... They say Conroe, when it should be Allendale...

I knew about F6. I happened to catch it about an hour after release, did nothing for me .

I usually enable smart, but I've reset and messed with my BIOS so many times, I don't know anymore.

Well, here's an interesting piece of information about HDD Smart. If I enable it, I get a panic, but if I dont, it just takes ages to load...

So how come yours can run with HDD Smart enabled? This is just so annoying - all I want is to run it like you guys!

Gigabyte's website doesnt say anything about problems with booting with RAM's that are using voltages above 1.8. What voltages does your RAM have? (list brand too if possible)

SABR: Just curious what casing do you have btw ?

I use Geil on 2.0V.

If I run with -x -v when booting mac, it displays hundreds of lines saying sth, and at the end it reports "Errors encountered when starting computer" and then goes into Checking HDD which takes ages (I never let it finish yet). Does it display this for anyone else?

What is typical score in Xbench for HDD?

And the disgusting part about this is, I really don't care to run osx. This is just a project to see if I can get it to work.

Can you burn with your IDE DVD-rw connected to the SATA converter in windows? My system refuses to burn properly. It see's the drive properly and (most of the time) recognizes the discs fine, but if I try and actually burn no luck. I've tried changing ports, changing the setup of the ports (ahci/ide/native mode etc...)

I'm about ready to shoot it, or throw my dvd burner on my linux server and say fug it

The F6 bios did help overclock further for me..fsb 456 with F4 bios vs fsb 470 with F6

Now my E6300 is cruising at 3.29Ghz

Yep, I even burnt the JaS 10.4.7 ISO Re-Pack on it...

Hi SABR,

I strongly get the feeling that you are missing something very basic. Are you absolutley sure that ALL settings are the same? Maybe go through ALL the menus 1 by 1 and check them with thedguy? Remove windows and run your cpu at normal level again. This should not have to do anything with but just to erase possible factors. Did you use the exact and same copy of OS X as thedguy and conroemac ? What type of burner do you have ? What different HD do you have? Really I think this MUST be a small difference that we all miss. Also the connectors: is it the correct one? Is it in good condition? No pins broken or something check it! Also check the connectors on your motherboard. All SATA and IDE connectors in good condition?

Best would be then after you ruled out other factors if you could try the mobo with completely different ram, hd, cpu etc... So you can see if the mobo works or not with other hardware. You have to rule out some factor sooner or later. This is too messy you cant tell what causes your problem so you cant possibly find out what is wrong.

xerxes

Sabr, you should check your HD.

If can you install osx (even if it takes 3 hours) it means that your settings are ok.

To have the best performance, use sata II HDs.
Plug it to the first purple AHCI port.

In my case, i`ve used USB DVD Driver, Instalation on orange portsm (purple ports werent discovered yeat).
Updated to JAS 10.4.7.

Everything went smooth.

Good look.

mm sucess on Gigabyte GA-965P-DS4
installation only took 46min ish

Sound working using the edit and lan work out of the box.

using Nec DVD-Rw drive with Abit Serillel 2 sata convertor on orange sata port and seagate HD on purple port. i dont't feel any slow down with the HD.

love it so far.

great work guys! Im a pc overclocker and my roommate's a graphic artist... I was looking to get back into osx installation after building my new conroe.. anyone xbench after OCing past 3ghz? im currious how these systems stack up to the new powermacs and old G5s.

Im going ds3, cant wait to get this going again. currently, im on a sempron64-2500+ @ 2.4ghz..

Ok, I have reverted the BIOS to fail-safe mode. Then I made the necessary changes in the BIOS - I still get the problem. It's not a BIOS problem.

My converter is fine, it works perfect in Windows, I can burn CD's and DVD's. The converter is fine.

I have the EXACT same file (JaS 10.4.7 ISO Repack). thedguy and I compared the file size, and it matches exactly (2.89 GB).

The connectors are working fine, Windows XP detects my HDD and DVD-RW perfectly.

I have tried the exact same settings with an old 10.4.3 bootable DVD, and it booted up nice and quickly, just as it should. Unfortunately, the installer didn't detect my HDD, so I couldn't install it. I then changed back to the 10.4.7 disc, and I have these problems again. This is why I feel it is to do with the OSx86 version compatibility with my hardware.

However, it may be my HDD, if you think about it. 10.4.3 didn't see my HDD. This means that if it can't see it, it (the HDD) is not going to affect anything. Then, when I insert the 10.4.7 DVD - which detects and sees my HDD (albeit very slowly) - I get problems.

I have the Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB Serial ATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer. I see no reason why this drive should be incompatible with OSx86, seeming as it ran fine when it was on the orange/yellow SATA ports. So I think I can rule this out.



As I said above, my HDD is fine. It's also a SATA II HDD.

I also have the exact same HDD with exact same problems- Mac running slow:)
Can someone who has this HDD confirm he has no problem with Mac runnin fast on purple ports?

Well, that is a bit worrying then. I am thinking that this whole problem is related to our HDD. Pretty weird we have the same one

Do you have the 250GB version too?

No, 320 GB.

Can you check with some other HDD? I would, but i have only IDE HDD and no converter. Though I'd hate to see that it is HDD's fault