i added finder,system preferences,text edit,tinker tool etc to Applications/utilities on the patched 10.4.1 dvd.
edit the installer utilities menu to show the apps(add exact name later).
booted via the original rc.cdrom, et voila boot cd with more utilities.
you can also edit the rc.cdrom to load finder instead of installer,but finder is very buggy.
no desktop/folders but it mounts cdrom and partitions.
and yeah i have a screensaver (but for what?)
so the main part is to add a ramdisk that points to the root account.
When i`m at home i check the exact way,for example to show all the stuff in system preferences i added a folder to system i believe.
Details will follow if someone is interessted.
This took me two evenings with the trial and error method.

Well, for what it's worth, excellent job modbin. Unfortunately, I think the 10.4.1 system is a bit too old to be really useful , although as a recovery tool it looks like you have at least gotten it to run whatever apps you want. Thats good. I'm puzzled by the fact that the same method has not worked watsoever with 10.4.4+ install systems. It looks like 10.4.3 will work with the method you described, but anything after that with encrypted system files and processor specific requirements will need some more work. Right now, I would love a copy of 10.4.3 to work with, but I deleted the image files a while ago. Well, if you're interested, I invite you to keep working with us modbin and if you can, try out your method with the 10.4.3 install DVD!

@ revenge I have only the 10.4.1 dvd so you got to do it.
but i worked a bit more and now i have dock and dashboard working.
i paste in here my notes i made during the process,i also made some screens and video
here:

http://rapidshare.de/files/26426857/OSXlive.rar.html

now the notes:
____________________________________________________________
open osx install disk 10.4.1 in osx via hdutil or in transmac.


and other like Textedit, systemPreferences, TinkerTool; etc
for systemPreferences you also need /System/Library/PreferencePanes/

paste in from your installation.
don`t overwrite
System/Library/Frameworks
and
System/Library/PrivateFrameworks
and
System/Library/Coresevices
and
private/var/root/desktop
and
private/var/root/Library/preferences/com.apple.desktop.plist (maby?)
and
/Library/Desktop pictures (hmm?)


edit your:

/Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/Resources/InstallerMenuAdditions.plist

to add your apps to the Installer Utilities Menu.
(Finder.app and Dock.app are in /System/Library/CoreServices)

edit
/System/Installation/CDIS/LCA.app/Contents/Resources/choices.nsarray
to show
"Starting Mac OS X "
instead of
"Starting Installation"


Now edit "/private/etc/rc.cdrom
and create ramdisk for private/var/root just copy and paste the one for /volumes
and edit to /var/root
strange thing happend after doing this!
check out yourself what`s now on your desktop.
and i`m now untitled instead of root.

changed to /var/root/desktop
works!
now I can make a new folder ;-) on desktop.

rc.cdrom is the key to start the system!


working progs:
-Text edit
-Network utility
-System preferences
-System Profiler
-Disk utility
-Reset password
-Startup disk
-Finder (buggy)
-Tinker tool (no changes)
-Chess
-Console
-Audio Midi Setup
-Dictionary(loads)
-Calculator
-Safari
-Dock
-Dashboard

notworking progs:

-Carbon copy cloner
-iTunes(replaced the oah folder with the sse3 stuff now loads;-)
added root/music/iTunes/iTunes Music/some mp3 ,damn doesent work see scrennshot it
needs ramdisk for the folder add it in rc.cdrom!
-i think that`s because of rosetta

Hint:if can`t choose apps in the utilities menu.
quit installer,choose startupdisk,quit startupdisk,back in installer choose don`t quit.

et voilá OSX Live DVD + Install DVD
now make it perfect, mostly the Desktop thing.


Now here comes the magic:
don`t overwrite just paste in and skip existing files.
pasted in /Library
pasted in /usr/libexec
damn yeah i have a dock i have a dock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
damn yeah i have a dashboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That`s it for now enjoy!
modbin Click to view attachment

thank you for sharing your info mobdin.
a 10.4.7 livedvd is getting closer.

all we need to do now is figure out a way to do all this with the 10.4.3 install dvd and then we can load the updates. i think it will be much easier with this extra info. GOOD JOB !!

Dragon

modbin, in order to quit the installer: go into the dock, right click on the Installer icon, force quit .. that should work.

Why don't you take the installer out of the startup items in the first place and replace it with a start up item for the finder?

the instructions are there, go for it bugs.

Interesting. Well, I'm in the process of getting 10.4.3 and I'll attempt this method using the instructions you described. However, on 10.4.4 +, doing something like this has not worked because applications just refuse to launch. We'll see how this goes, but good progress!

If we get 10.4.3 working I think the next step should be 10.4.5 - no point lagging around with a 10.4.4 as 10.4.5 is pretty similar. Also a 10.4.7 should not be attempted until a /real/ patch or install DVD solution appears, currently JaS has only provided us with the core components of the update - so we would fair better waiting for a more complete upgrade.

Quicktime now works.

bugsbunny:
"but it is based on Apple's install DVD and even launches the installer first thing (which he probably could have closed by going into the dock, right click on the Installer icon, force quit, but oh well ..)"


@ bugsbunny
watch the video and see what happens if you close the installer.
but you can edit rc.cdrom and replace installer with finder (read the first post).
The reason i leave the installer is:This live dvd is also able to install the OS ;-).

But I`m trying to edit the installer so that you can choose between live and install.

@revenge
for your 10.4.4
read the installer log file ,if your apps don`t load maby there is a hint why.
or replace installer with your app in rc.cdrom and boot with -v to see why it fails to load.
this helped me a lot.

< watch the video and see what happens if you close the installer.
I watched the video, but maybe I didn't get that part - I think the Message Window pops up?

< but you can edit rc.cdrom and replace installer with finder (read the first post).
right

< The reason i leave the installer is:This live dvd is also able to install the OS ;-).
oh I see, it's that way around - could have figured that out myself ..

< But I`m trying to edit the installer so that you can choose between live and install.
that would be cool

Yeah I already tried, no useful info watsoever.

I deleted everything and made a new image to make shure my instructions are ok.
i have a hint:
System/Library/Frameworks
and
System/Library/PrivateFrameworks
and
System/Library/Coresevices
and
/Library
and
/usr/libexec
paste only the content not the folder itself and skip existing files.
always work as root.

-pasted \System\Library\SystemConfiguration (not shure)
\System\Library\QuickTimeJava
\System\Library\QuickTime

QuickTime now works


pasted in
\System\Library\PrivateFrameworks\NetInfo.framework\Versions\A\Resources\lookupd\Agents\ds.bundle
because of some reason it wasn`t copied.

-edit
\System\Library\CoreServices\Dock.app\Contents\Resources\English.lproj\default.plist
to your favorite apps in the dock.

you can add your favorite screensaver \System\Library\Screen Savers.


the finder/desktop is still buggy.
there are some errors with bootstrap server see screenshots, if someone is able to fix or has an idea please post it.
Anyone tried with 10.4.3?
http://rapidshare.de/files/26981212/screens.rar.html

i'll try it now mobdin, can you explain how to use transmac to exchange files?

i keep trying to add the files into the dvd by dragging it from 10.4.1 into 10.4.3 install dvd (unpatched) and it copies half the files in and then says "cannot create file/folder"

lol
i have never done this before as you might be able to tell

I did some more work.
pasting my notes:


pasted /usr/lib

added system/library/privateframeworks/all devtools frameworks
and javakit.framework
replaced devtoolscore.framework
added usr/libexec/oah/shims
now devtools work for example threadviewer

added systemuiserver to the installer utilities menu
its in System/Library/Coresevices/
now i have spotlight and language/keyboardlayout in the menu bar

@Dragon
use hdiutil attach yourimagehere -readwrite

don`t use transmac.
don`t paste 10.4.1 into 10.4.3
install 10.4.3 mount your 10.4.3 installdvdimage using the command above and follow the instructions.


screenshots:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27118906/screens.rar.html

Good stuff modbin. I just finished dling the 10.4.3 image so no more idling for me. I'll get to work today.

some more news
as always I`m to lazy to rewrite so I just paste my notes below.


Notes:


removed systemuiserver from installer utilities menu
it now starts from rc.cdrom
below is the position in rc.cdrom between of PBS and postWS.
--------------------cut------------------
#
# Start the PasteBoardServer
#
START_PBS=/System/Library/CoreServices/pbs

if [ -x "${START_PBS}" ]; then
"${START_PBS}" &
fi

#
# Start the SystemUIServer
#
START_SystemUIServer=/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemUIServer.app/Contents/MacOS/SystemUIServer

if [ -x "${START_SystemUIServer}" ]; then
"${START_SystemUIServer}" &
fi

#
# Source a post-WindowServer script if present
# (This is inaccurate, the WindowServer is now started on demand.)
#
if [ -x /etc/rc.cdrom.postWS ]; then
/etc/rc.cdrom.postWS
fi

#
--------------------cut---------------------

maby put finder and dock in there too?

5 min later

works ! nice, I like OSX

--------------------cut---------------------
#
# Start the PasteBoardServer
#
START_PBS=/System/Library/CoreServices/pbs

if [ -x "${START_PBS}" ]; then
"${START_PBS}" &
fi

#
# Start the SystemUIServer
#
START_SystemUIServer=/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemUIServer.app/Contents/MacOS/SystemUIServer

if [ -x "${START_SystemUIServer}" ]; then
"${START_SystemUIServer}" &
fi

#
# Start the Finder
#
START_Finder=/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder

if [ -x "${START_Finder}" ]; then
"${START_Finder}" &
fi

#
# Start the Dock
#
START_Dock=/System/Library/CoreServices/Dock.app/Contents/MacOS/Dock

if [ -x "${START_Dock}" ]; then
"${START_Dock}" &
fi

#
# Source a post-WindowServer script if present

--------------------cut---------------------

hope it also works for 10.4.3.

I made a new vmware movie,but note vmware capturing is slooooooow
try it out yourself.

http://rapidshare.de/files/27210523/rc.cdrom.rar.html

modbin

wow, you're amazing mobdin... keep up the good work

modbin, do you check your PMs? I offered you a free full-speed download of Myzar's 10.4.4/5 DVD install image on my costs a few days ago - please reply (before it's gone) ..

@bugsbunny
no such pm (but highspeed download sounds good)
10.4.1 is the only I have.
I checked pm today (first time)

did some changes in rc.cdrom


http://rapidshare.de/files/27374685/OSX3.rar.html

wow, looks great. Now what I am craving to know is if draggin now works in Disk Utility once the finder is launched: in the restore window within Disk Utility, can you drag the volumes from the left window pane in Disk Utility into the textfields in the restore window in the right side?

Ok I deleted everything not workin on 10.4.1 anylonger :-(

@BugsBunny
draggin in DiskUtility doesn`t work maby it`s Finder I don`t know.

@REVENGE
for your 10.4.4 copy TextEdit into the Applications folder and edit the Installer to show it up in the Utillities Menu. it will load


I swiched to 10.4.4/5
it loads Finder and Dock
I post some details in a few days

Yeah, I know TextEdit edit already loads. The thing is HOW DID YOU GET DOCK AND FINDER TO LOAD? Now thats news!

Great job, modbin! And you're smart for keeping all the documentation.

I would say that if it's too hard to make a LiveDVD that's also installable, just focus on the LiveDVD part first. Then after you get that working, maybe you can set up an installer.

Big thanks to you! mobdin
..

yeah X LABS DEV , thanks for that.

the steps posted above also work on 10.4.4/5
I sum it up a little for you.
in short: paste in what Apple removed


we go the rc.cdrom way to load Finder/Dock/SystemUIServer
my version of rc.cdrom is in the rar

http://rapidshare.de/files/28292720/10.4.4-5.rar.html

my image is in a shared folder on a ntfs partition in windows
all changes are made in osx installed in vmware with host-only network
use terminal: hdiutil attach draggyourimagehere -readwrite
always work as root!

below are the steps how to make a 10.4.1/4/5 (other versions may work too) Live and Install DVD:
________________________________________________________________________________
_______________

1. paste only the contents of the following
not the folder itself and skip existing files.

/System/Library/Frameworks
and
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks

make shure you have
NetInfo.framework\Versions\A\Resources\lookupd\Agents\ds.bundle
as for some reason finder skips it sometimes.

and
/System/Library/Coresevices
and
/System/Library/LaunchDaemons
and
/System/Library/systemprofiler
and
/System/Library/services
and
/System/Library/perl/5.8.6
and
/System/Library/perl
and
/Library
and
/usr/libexec
and
/usr/bin
and
/usr/lib
and
/usr/sbin
and
/usr/share



2. now add the following folders, yeah the folder itself:

/System/Library/OuickTime
and
/System/Library/OuickTimeJava
and
/System/Library/Screen Savers
and
/System/Library/PreferencePanes
and
/System/Library/User Temlate
and
/System/Library/Automator
and
/System/Library/TCL
and
/system/Library/TextEncodings
and
/system/Library/perl/extras
and
/system/Library/perl/lib
and
/System/Library/Java
and
/usr/libexec/oah/shims


3. paste in your favorite or all Applications/Utilities
into the Applications/Utilities folder of your DVD

4. open
\System\Library\CoreServices\Dock.app\Contents\Resources\English.lproj\default.plist
with TextEdit and edit it to show up your favorite Apps instead of the default ones.
or paste in /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist (it will override default.plist)
make shure to place installer there.
(to install OSX open /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg)



5. Make a new folder called Desktop in
/private/var/root
paste in all the stuff you want to have on your Desktop.

6. change the Desktopscreen to your favarite
make shure it is also on the DVD and copy your preferences
to your DVD (same location)
/private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.desktop.plist (your desktop picture)
and
/private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist (your finder preferences and so on)
and
/private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dashboard.plist
and
or paste in /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist (it will override default.plist)
and
/private/var/root/Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences.plist
and
/private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dashboard.client.plist
and
/private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.desktopservices.plist
and
/private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MenuBarClock.plist

some preferences do not work yet :-(

7. notes:

(DO NOT ONLY READ THIS, BUILD YOUR OWN DVD AND IMPROVE IT!)

(if someone is able to use systemstarter or loginwindow please tell)



The recommend drink for working on the dvd is:

"Reissdorf Koelsch"

go and get yourself a bottle, it is the best!







How to edit a iso lokated on a ntfs volume within vmware running OSX:
1. install services for Macintosh (click help and support and search for it if you don`t know)
2. make a new shared folder for Macintosh users in Computer Management (it is also in help and support)
3. paste the image into your new shared folder
4. setup vmware with host only network; install OSX and connect to the windows network
5. mount the iso with hdiutil and edit
6. when you unmount the changes will be saved on ntfs no need to use transmac/macdrive or reboot your computer.

running server 2003 right now, maybe it also works on XP

So Modbin, what all can the DVD you made do? Does everything work once it boots up to OS X? Is it just like having it installed? Can you just put it into most newer PCs and boot from it?

(Once I can get some of this info, I'll write an article about it and I'm sure it'll bring a lot of really interested people to help work on/improve things. )

@Mash
download the rar from my last post and watch the video inside.
it is just like having it installed,but some apps don`t work.
I think it is ram disk issue for most of them like iTunes.
most of the apps are working.

@all
is there anyone who followed my instructions and made a DVD?


update: delete or patch /usr/bin/login otherwise you get pam error when opening Terminal
(lazy me haven`t tested terminal).


make a new folder
/Network
and
/Network/Library
and
/Network/Users
and
/Network/Applications

and see what happens.


work to do for you:
make a global ram disk!
or we have to add a lot of them in rc.cdrom
and my desktop is already full of them,watch the video they are called untitled.




the following is only testing!
and only testing!

I think it is save to paste in all of your preferences com.apple.whatever.plist into/private/var/root/Library/Preferences/

paste
/System/Library/Speech/Voices
to have all the voices if you need.

added
/system/library/dictionaries
/system/library/find
searching still doesn`t work.

/System/Library/StartupItems
/System/Library/Caches
/System/Library/CFMSupport
/System/Library/ColorPickers
/System/Library/Colors
/System/Library/ColorSync/Scripting
/System/Library/ColorSync/Calibrators
/System/Library/Filters
/System/Library/Image Capture
/System/Library/Keychains
/System/Library/LocalePlugins
/System/Library/LoginPlugins
/System/Library/Modem Scripts
/System/Library/Monitor Panels
/System/Library/Printers
/System/Library/ScriptingAdditions
/System/Library/Security
/System/Library/StartupItems
/automount
/cores
/private/tftpboot

pasted
/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles
/System/Library/Components
/System/Library/Services
/System/Library/Spotlight
/private/etc

now my /System/Library folder on DVD is completely synced to my hd one.
I only left out the extensions directory and bootcache.
do not replace anything!

made ram disk for automount and Network in rc.cdrom.
like:
#
# Create a RAM disk for /Network
#
echo "Creating RAM Disk for /Network"
dev=`hdik -drivekey system-image=yes -nomount ram://1024` # 512k
if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
newfs $dev
mount -o union -o nobrowse $dev /Network
fi

doesn`t work like I thought.

modbin, you have done more in a month than what all of us devs have been able to do for over half a year! BAH! You should go and start updating the main status page regularly now that you have basically fullfilled our original LiveDVD goals. Awesome work man...I think I should probably cede this forum to you

Also, I think I'll try to adapt Charles's ramdisk system to the system you've built. Hopefully, this will be a little more convenient and add some more functionality.

what's status revenge?

Ah guys, I've been away for the past few days. Yes, OS X LiveDVD is important, as is OS X Leopard, but there are still some things more important in life.

more important than mac?

yes, macgirl ..

ok some hints for you revenge:


ok we will add the Charles bootcd ramdisk now

1. download bootcd and make a iso
ok it doesn`t work
you have to copy newfs_hfs from /sbin to /usr/sbin first
and if you like add the bless command from 10.4.1

2. copy some stuff from the created bootcd to your DVD; always same location
/usr/bin/RamDisk (it is also in bootcd.app)
/ramdisk
/private/etc/RamDisk
3. replace everything inside the contents folder
with your stuff

example:
/private/var/root (the complete folder)
you should now have:
/private/etc/RamDisk/contents/private/var/root
now delete /private/var/root
and replace it with a new created hex file called root
inside the hex file you should only have
/ramdisk/contents/private/var/root
in hex:
2F72616D6469736B2F636F6E74656E74732F707269766174652F7661722F726F6F74
it is like a hard link or alias,maybe you find a better way to create it.

I am no shure what the difference is between
private hex= 70726976617465
/private hex= 2F70726976617465
../private hex=2E2E2F70726976617465

some hardlinks have private some /private and other have ../private

!PLEASE FIGURE THIS OUT AS I`M NOT WORKING ON RAMDISK!

4. finally add the following line to your rc.cdrom

/usr/bin/RamDisk etc/RamDisk 5.000000 /ramdisk

maybe add -inkernel (not shure)

/usr/bin/RamDisk etc/RamDisk 5.000000 /ramdisk -inkernel

5.000000 = 5Mb

don`t forget to delete the original ramdisk in rc.cdrom

WORK TO DO:
load Loginwindow,if someone is famillar with IDA Pro please disassemble it.
that`s the main goal now,so we can remove finder,dock,systemuiserver from rc.cdrom as loginwindow does the job for us.


update of my instructions and rc.cdrom:
http://rapidshare.de/files/29733666/update.rar.html

some notes for loginwindow

use "Reset Password.app" to set new root password for your DVD or hack the original
(I really like to know what password apple set for root)

paste /private/var/db/.AppleSetupDone

add:
BUDDYCOOKIE="/var/db/.AppleSetupDone"
in rc.cdrom

loginwindow now loads instead of Setup Assistant
but doesn`t accept my password :-( Netinfo Manager does )


I have 2 questions:
where are the passwords stored in OSX?

is there anyone working on this?

Some information on how passwords are stored through OS X:
http://www.dribin.org/dave/blog/archives/2..._x_passwords_2/
It seems that any reliable method for password retrieval on UNIX systems could well work for OS X with some modification to account for the use of the netinfo database.

hi friends,

my excuses, I so wanted to congratulate for the excellent work!

go ahead!

[]'s guedes jr

My 250 Gb Maxtor crashed yesterday,every osx live related stuff is gone.
So no updates for the next time.

Any chance of recovery? Was it a physical head crash?

the disk is physical damaged it`s not like recover the MBR or PT.
it is in Hard Disk Heaven now.

Sorry to hear that, modbin - that really sucks.

(Mash rushes off to do a backup...)

luckily I posted all important steps in here.
so I have a new Hard Disk and just made a new Live/Install DVD

the instructions are all ok, but if someone is willing to work on BOOTCD ramdisk please -
I have to say the hex hardlinks I posted above are not working :-(
The Ramdisk is working fine but I wasn`t able to link my desktop to the ramdisk.
An alias is working but if I try to make a new folder on Desktop, Finder crashes.

mobdin... i'm having some trouble.

i used to hdiutil attach lalala.iso -readwrite
i moved all the folders you said, clicking don't replace for all of the ones that already exist, and edit all the files you said to and the dvd size remains the same as before?

also when i try use the image in vmware it loads the desktop (without dock or finder) and the rainbow pinwheel just keeps spinning.

what am i doing wrong?!?!? :S

the dvd size is ok it is only a container, but the free space inside will be reduced.
did you put finder,dock and systemuiserver in rc.cdrom?
I guess not,but you can use my version of rc.cdrom it is in one of the downloads.
but I can post the latest version of it if you need.
does it mount your hd and dvd?
is the pinwheel spinning for ever and can you move it ?
some more details please.
good to hear that someone is working on the stuff.
btw which version 10.4.4?

hey mobdin, i'm using 10.4.4-5 myzar image. i edited rc.cdrom and put finder and dock in but not systemuiserver i think. i'll try using your version of rc.cdrom.
I can move the pinwheel it just never loads os x.
I don't know if it mounts my hd and dvd yet seeing as i haven't been able to get to the desktop. I'm going to try later and see if using your rc.cdrom will fix things


i'm hoping for a rainy weekend so i can stuff around with it some more.
ta Dragon

I`m using the same 10.4.4-5 myzar.
so it should work.
maybe try to install without the 10.4.5 update and paste the stuff in, cause the install dvd is version 10.4.4.
but if i remember correctly it should also work with 10.4.5.
always boot with -v to see the error messages.
anyway here is the latest version of my rc.cdrom and a screenshot of the new licence agreement
i used the one fravia made.
http://rapidshare.de/files/32363291/insanelymac.rar.html

ta

i have 10.4.7 installed... i'm gonna have to go back to 10.4.5 to do the dvd.

mobdin, it seems like people are interested in this live dvd.... but I think the main reason no one is doing anything is because your instructions are all over the place.

i think that you would get a whole heap of people into it by creating a ppf that people can just apply on the dvd. I don't know if that would be legal or not. still you could do that or you could get ALL of your instructions and files and make a tutorial/guide type of thing. put everything in order so that people can follow the instructions more carefully.

BTW, i'm reinstalling 10.4.5.

I plan to give it a try using the JaS 10.4.7 install DVD. My system is an IBM ThinkCentre (8183) which runs SuSE Linux 10.1 on one primary partition and OSX86 JaS 10.4.6 on the other. The System Profiler says:

CPU Type: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 3.4 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
CPU Features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT
PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM EST

Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWnD2:
Firmware Revision: 1.A1
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Unsupported)
Profile Path: None
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media: No

Display:
Type: VGA-Compatible Controller
Bus: Built-In
VRAM (Total): 128 MB
Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
Device ID: 0x2572
Revision ID: 0x0002
Kernel Extension Info: No Kext Loaded
Displays:
Display:
Resolution: 1600 x 1200
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Not Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Not Supported

I have ordered an external firewire disk enclosure to hold a spare 160GB HDD and a fresh install of JaS 10.4.7. Will see what happens and let you know.

Now, to expose my ignorant noob status with OS X. I could use some pointers to information on creating CD/DVD images that are bootable on non-apple intel systems.

I have been able to open the JaS ISO image I downlaoded, modify it and have it bootable after burning it to a DVD-RW. However, when I tried making copies of the image or making an image from scratch they would not boot. I know it is possable to create hybred disk images for MAC/PC. I just have no idea how to do it.

I would appreciate it if someone could point me to the correct book/how-to to get me started.

why do you need to create your own image?