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PainWarlock
well i do like it im just trying to install video and audio drivers

then fluxbox after and a custom theme with some extras like xwinwrap and conky

packaging system is about the same as ubuntu except no add/remove i find aptitude alot more functional and has its pluses and minuses i got rid of the ubuntu disk and learning from scratch wish me luck guys and tell is there any other debian users out there tongue.gif
Alessandro17
QUOTE (PainWarlock @ Nov 30 2008, 10:32 PM) *
well i do like it im just trying to install video and audio drivers


Pardon me? Audio drivers=Alsa. Non proprietary video drivers=Xorg
Installing Nvidia drivers: several methods, module-assistant is the "real" Debian way.


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packaging system is about the same as ubuntu except no add/remove


You lost me here, maybe because I am not an Ubuntu user.
"Add"? "apt-get install packagename"
"Remove"? "apt-get remove packagename"
Or use synaptic, easier.
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wish me luck guys and tell is there any other debian users out there tongue.gif


Good luck! I have been a Debian (and SUSE) user almost since the beginning (of my Linux experience). Debian keeps getting better all the time.
MacUser2525
QUOTE (PainWarlock @ Nov 30 2008, 05:32 PM) *
well i do like it im just trying to install video and audio drivers


As has already been mentioned for audio install ALSA for the video depending on what kernel you are running you need to either build the modules for install or if using a stock Debian kernel then the modules should be available to install as long as you have non-free in your /etc/apt/sources.list for the sources you are using.
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then fluxbox after and a custom theme with some extras like xwinwrap and conky


I like KDE used it since the pre 1.0 days not so thrilled about the 4.? series that is what lead me to OS X after that mess that was 4.0 at the start of this year.

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learning from scratch wish me luck guys and tell is there any other debian users out there tongue.gif


The best way to do it you actually get to know how your system works and if you break it you have a better chance to fix it knowing what is going on. I used Debian for the last 5 or so years it is a much better system than the RPM hell that I used in the years before starting with Redhat 5 moving on to SuSE and Mandrake.

QUOTE (Alessandro17 @ Dec 7 2008, 12:28 AM) *
Pardon me? Audio drivers=Alsa. Non proprietary video drivers=Xorg
Installing Nvidia drivers: several methods, module-assistant is the "real" Debian way.


Not really the module assistant is used when you have installed a custom kernel if using the stock Debian kernel then most modules should already be built for that kernel available to be installed through the package system.



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You lost me here, maybe because I am not an Ubuntu user.
"Add"? "apt-get install packagename"
"Remove"? "apt-get remove packagename"
Or use synaptic, easier.


He has already started using aptitude it is not recommended to use apt with it as the package system can get out of sync between them so it is one or the other.
Elv13
Aptitude is installed by default on Ubuntu too wink.gif

Ubuntu and deb are similar, everything you can do on one you can do it on the other, but deb have less bloat.
Alessandro17
QUOTE (MacUser2525 @ Dec 7 2008, 03:56 PM) *
Not really the module assistant is used when you have installed a custom kernel if using the stock Debian kernel then most modules should already be built for that kernel available to be installed through the package system.


Who told you that? When you use a stock Debian kernel, install module-assistant, build-essential, nvidia-glx and then:

# m-a prepare
# m-a a-i nvidia
Done!
MacUser2525
QUOTE (Alessandro17 @ Dec 8 2008, 01:54 AM) *
Who told you that? When you use a stock Debian kernel, install module-assistant, build-essential, nvidia-glx and then:

# m-a prepare
# m-a a-i nvidia
Done!


It makes no sense at all to use the module assistant to build exactly the same module you can get pre-built installing from the archives when using a stock kernel nobody needs to tell me that...
Alessandro17
QUOTE (MacUser2525 @ Dec 8 2008, 03:14 PM) *
It makes no sense at all to use the module assistant to build exactly the same module you can get pre-built installing from the archives when using a stock kernel nobody needs to tell me that...


For instance, when you are having problems like this:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=1...abd69dcbd6e8ef1 (Posted: 2008-12-07 16:38):

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Mind you, even with stock Debian kernels, the use of Module Assistant and having a mixed system was needed only a few months ago with Lenny, but that was taken care of a few months ago when the pre-built Nvidia packages were finally uploaded onto the Lenny repositories. Still, at least for now, you can just pull in the pre-built packages rather than use Module Assistant.
MacUser2525
QUOTE (Alessandro17 @ Dec 10 2008, 12:33 AM) *
For instance, when you are having problems like this:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=1...abd69dcbd6e8ef1 (Posted: 2008-12-07 16:38):


So you bring up some case that is usually not the common situation at all, you should not be building the exact same module that is in the archives available for installation on the off chance that is indeed broken all the time.
Alessandro17
QUOTE (MacUser2525 @ Dec 10 2008, 03:30 PM) *
So you bring up some case that is usually not the common situation at all, you should not be building the exact same module that is in the archives available for installation on the off chance that is indeed broken all the time.


Unless you use Stable all the time, it is far from "usually not (being) the common situation at all"
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