QUOTE (I am Dice @ Jan 31 2009, 03:46 AM)

in which order to you see it in tracert? by default you will be able to use a network even if its double NAT'ed though its not recommend. the .15 is normal for Motorola Router and good be Vonage. But the order is.
which ever the first one is you can turn nat off. .1.1 is normally a linksys but it does not always have NAT Disable options.
I guess the main question is, are you having problems with speed? or drop packets?
Dice
Speed, ping, reliability. It was impossible to open ports. Torrents were the biggest problem. What should have taken a few hours took days. And running an HTTP server would have been out of the question.
It turns out that my landlord did have a VOIP phone, he just didn't understand what I meant when I asked him, I guess. I put his ATA in to bridge mode, turned off DHCP server and NAT, and then reset it and the router.
I had done this several times before with no joy because I didn't reset the router, only the ATA. Resetting the router remotely by clicking "save" at the bottom of the first page (as I recall) resets the device.
After that, everything was great! Until the router died about a week later.
I've just moved out of that place now. The nightmare is over!