it does not work like that in osx...

yes u can use my nc10 pack, to install the video driver
by the way what were you using in your system before?

that's a good question. i don't really know. i will be able to give u an answer tomorrow because i will be doing the installation all over again. i will pay more attention to it because i just installed it blindly previously. now that i have a little bit more experience, i know what i will be doing.

thanks a lot for your help.

i suggest you to get JAS DVD + my ppf package = Samsung NC10 DVD 2 options to choose, samsung nc10 + cleanup off you go... make sure before the install, use disk utility to erase your current partition, to start clean...

i am getting addicted to the whole process. i can't wait to install it anytime sooner! however, i think i will still download the jas dvd and ur ppf package and build a version of samsung nc10 mac just in case.

btw, u were saying that osx does not work like windows when it comes to drivers, care to explain a little bit further?

okay, if i were to change my video card driver, how can i get the system to point to the correct driver?

in windows you point to the driver

in mac drivers are kernel extensions and have all the information that the kernel needs, meaning they will be caught by kernel automaticaly if you put them in the right place/folder... with the right permissions (unix world is all about file permissions... similar to user rights and ntfs permissions in windows... you define the permissions per file or folder... and than system treats it accordingly...)

(/system/library/extensions/) is the place for drivers... and getting the right driver is a searching process for your system, if you have say ati 2900xt card, search for ati 2900xt card driver /mods etc... sometimes drivers dont work OTB (out of the box) for not being officialy supported! in these cases there are work arounds you need to search/find/apply carefully...

if you wanna know all about these, you have to be patient and willing to search and read a lot...

if you wanna learn things roughly quickly, read my other topic post #1 starting from "what is kernel" part... all the way to the end of post#1

you are the star ... in fact, you already got a star right after your name !

thanks a lot, simple explanation but it means a lot to me. i believe that i will get things right soon.

right after my first installation of mac few days ago, i have started reading ebooks but they just explain the software and commands. they don't talk about the drivers, extensions or kext ... i will take some time to read your other topic tomorrow. you have been a great help !!

you are welcome to donate to support my installation projects (making a simple guide to convert your current dvd to a 10.5.5 dvd or 10.5.6 maybe) and contribute to next big project of touchscreen which will cost some money and risks... if people donate it will reduce the risks on my shoulder and for anyone who will try it, donation not necessary but good way to support all these things...

thanx and enjoy... and wait for the better guide, install dvd upgrade, update pack, and touchscreen

Anyone successful enabling two finger scroll for the multitouch trackpad

Hey mysticus, thanks for the NC10 DVD , great job


only one question, what about that ps2 driver? is there one that doesn't get stuck on the right key?


cheers

the ps2 driver comes from the dvd works perfect, however the one from my nc10 package, has the problem, however once updated, you can reinstall the backedup one... or wait for my next update installer pack (by monday because i m travelling somewhere for the weekend mate...

i will make this whole thing better by monday...

btw: is there a way to undo the PPF on the jas iso?

ppf-o-matic doesn't allow the option


i forgot to save a clean copy of jas

I can answer that for you as I made the same mistake...lol nope you have to redownload the whole thing again, was a pain in the ass but it shouldn't take long, only took 3hours for me, but now i've made sure i've got at least one original and one NC10 copy

Crap.

i got it off a torrent, couldnt use rapidshare properly.

how come it's not on usenet....

hi all,
i have leopard 10.5.4 on my nc10 installed with iAtkos 4 (not vanilla kernel), and have a triple boot with ubuntu and xp.
can i install or upgade to 10.5.5 without loose other os???
thanks!

Hey guys,

everything works fine for me so far. But I seem to be mising something when trying out the install from a partition of the internal HDD (done with ddmac).

The installation works just fine, I reactivate the XP main partition and restart on the OSX 1 partition. Everything boots fine, the intro movie plays, I'm asked what country I'm in, what keyboard layout I want to use.

But then OSX asks me if I'd like to import any data from another account, a drive, or not at all. No matter which option I choose, I get a colorful ball of death for about a minute, and then the intro movie starts from the beginning. Nothing crashes, the whole thing just loops.

I presume that the OSX 1 System wants to read from the install disc, but can't find it (I have no way of knowing, just a thought).

md5 checked out on all images.

Any thoughts or pointers to threads I should check out? I'm willing to learn.

Try quitting out of the initial set up system. You can configure everything manually later.

Either Option-Q or CTRL-OPTION-ESCAPE and force quit the set up application.

Right. I guess I was too busy thinking about complex partitioning schemes to think of the simpler solutions.

Will try it out right now. Thanks!

*** UPDATE: ***

Nope. Didn't work. Couldn't, because this is even before any users have been set up, so I guess there's nowhere to quit to. Thanks for the idea, though.

I'm thinking if I should get the touch panel for NC10, the price is quite attractive and the seller said the installation is not too difficult. If I order on Monday then I can get it in middle of December...

Hi guys, I've read every single post on here, and like other, want to thank Mysticus C* for all his hard work.

I've been looking at netbooks to upgrade my Asus EEE 701, and the Samsung looked good, but since it can run OS X (I'm a serious Mac head) then I will be ordering one on monday.

Cheers
mud

it didnt happen at all on my all tests at all, but i know that issue, it happened to me once, but it was when i had another osx partition with account in it... do you have another osx partition with any created accounts?

if not try transfer account setting, and let it to try to find, if it doesnt it should by pass, however if it doesnt help, restart the netbook, and try again\? not working? try a reinstall, but use diskutility first to erase the partition content, and restart the installer...

hopefully it should work... but again, do you have another partition with osx installed with an account created...?

maas aa: sorry i didnt include undo data information due to large sum of data being wiped out from the original jas dvd which would make this ppf something like 200-250 mb in size... therefore i didnt do it, sorry mate...

but i warned in the first post to back up the original iso somewhere, i guess you didnt pay attention

also read the page 54 of the pdf guide for the correct bios settings!!! so dont complain about computer not working i made a 100+ pages step by step guide (although outdated now due to new dvd progress) you should do some respect and read it carefully boring to read\look at 100+ pages but it is required to know some basic things...

xeo84: you can upgrade to 10.5.5 using the packages and guide just fine, however i dont like to debug issues caused by using another dvd... it takes more time for me to figure out all the kinks all over again...

i highly suggest you to follow the guide to the end and partition the hdd the way i said (most people find it weird but when i finish my guide you will all understand how usefull it is, and most of you will appreciate it!) and use the same dvd, so we are all unified and less time spend on debuggin issues... if you can follow my guide\dvd instructions you will have the least issues...(probably not at all, apart from the known issues)

ngreg: which seller are you referring to mate? point a link so to check wheter he is the same one i talked on ebay (he is also from msi wind forums) he will be back around mid dec so may be the same guy

about the ease of install, i doubt it is a piece of cake that anyone can do so watch out! because many msi wind user including experienced once had issues installing these kits, such as breaking lcd display or breaking touch screen module, break the case parts... etc...

mudzilla: you are welcome to be on board... however i recommend you to make your mind up about your priorities before you do this... so if something does not work that you are expecting, this is not the place to cry ok mate? most things you need to know will be in post#1 esp on monday, most of the information will be updated!... cheers...

"do you have another osx partition with any created accounts?"

In fact I do, but I never thought this might be an issue.. is it just one of those mysterious bugs, or is there some sense behind it? Well, I guess I'll never know, cause I'm erasing and reinstalling it all. The installation from the internal HDD partition ist so beautifully fast, this should be the standard way of doing it - anyone can spare 4,4 GB just to have spre startup disk sitting there.

I'll report back if the problem seems to be persistent. I've browsed the MSI forums too to find if that ever happened to anyone, but found nothing.

most likely a rare bug...

It's still there!

I redid everything now - zeroed out the internal hdd (apart from the 30gb XP partition), repartitioned it according to your scheme, made a installer partition with ddmac, changed all the relevant files & entries, BIOS is as ist should be - but after I install to the OSX 1 partition (it all works) and reboot, it loops again.

I'm in Germany, using the local bluetooth-less white NC10, all stock.

Installation from external HD works great.

Is there anything I missed when installing from the internal HDD? Can someone maybe confirm the sequence of steps for me?

can you boot using
-v -x
flags and try to do the same process? it may be a specific model bug or something?

I got a PM from Shem, who has found a workaround for the problem, but didn't manage to find a workaround to posting to the forum.

I'll repost his PM here:



Thanks, Shem,

I'll try it out right away!



*** UPDATE ***



It works well. But it's a circumvention of the problem, not a solution. Mysticus, what would you need from me to figure this out?

Okay,

last post today:

I guess we can rule out the Bluetooth module as the culprit for the "immediate wake from sleep on AC power" problem. The German revision of the machine has no BT, but has the same issues.

then it is power management setting or issue... work WOL, wake on lan... when on power connected, it has power on all the time, but when on battery it uses power management and avoids activity from wifi...

i know in windows' power management have settings for these kind of things individually... so there may be a setting for it in osx as well... obviously there is i think, so we need to find the pm setting for wifi (wake on lan active\passive when on power)

hope it makes sense?

Hi guys, I have a question about partition. Can Mac and Window share a same partition for file and stuff? I plan to set up my partition like this:

20GB for Windows XP
80GB FAT32 for storage of music mainly iTunes ...=> this will be used for Mac and Windows
20GB for Mac
20GB for Clone (as Mysticus suggested)
5GB for Data/Update
4.7GB for Install

Still waiting for my dw1490, darn I should have bought one from US instead of China. Now I have to wait another week to get it. Maybe I just go ahead and use my old BCM4311 from my TX1000....

Darkgemini-
I'm sure it must be possible, but mine is not set up like that. What I do know is that when I'm booted in to XP, Windows cannot "see" my Mac journaled partition. However, when I'm booted into OSX, I can access both my Mac and Windows/NTFS partitions. So I've used my windows partition as a holding pen for some Mac files while I've played around with the whole OSX thing (e.g., keeping copies of the 10.5.5 dmg update "safe" while I've messed up the OSX install). Others here will likely know better than I - but for what it's worth.

Mysticus C*: I live in Hong Kong, I find a shop sells different size of touch panel. The seller told me that he's now collecting order from customers, after one to two days he will send the order to manufacture, then he will get the panels in middle of December. He told me many foreign people order panels from him, so I wonder if those ebay sellers are order from him.

The price is about USD $80, includes a touch panel, some cables and a driver disc.

Hello,

I'm very interested by your POST, because I have a NC10.

I have try to intall iDeneb 1.3 (leo 10.5.5) and I have apply the "paulswinddriversutilities pack", I have changed my Wifi card with an Apple Airport Express.

- Things Work :

VGA/Resolutions/Mirroring
Sound
Bluetooth
Memory Card reader
Keyboard/Trackpad (UK and French, because I'm French )
Camera
USB mounting (USB key and USB hard drive work fine)
Restart/shutdown/sleep (Sleep working fine)
Battery Power management
Volume control keys
Wifi (with Apple card)


NOT WORKING
LAN
Original WIFI
Mic
Brightness control
Some other different function keys

you have to use FAT32 and both Mac and Windows can use it.

Is it possible to add more RAM to the NC10??

Yes. Go to crucial.com and look under Samsung -> Samsung Netbooks -> NC10-14G

Or here: http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=NC10-14G

I have 2gb and it works fine!

It absolutely makes sense. But I've never heard of WOL for Wifi on a Mac. Or did you mean ethernet? I'll browse the modules a little, maybe something will turn up...

Thx pexmc

or there is another program that you could use its called mac drive, you can get it from the usual torrent websites, thats what i've got running on my xp side just so i can access my mac side incase i need to replace kexts after a messed up updated.

i am this close to buying the nc10...mc you doin an excellent job.
if you guys hav time check this new wind
msi wind

Samsung released new bios "03CA", but no detail about the changes....

I have now got OSX 10.5.5 working thanks to your AIO driver pack. However OSX does not pick up the batery status anymore.
It says "No batteries available". Any idea how to fix this?

Also the system seems to crash and say "you need to reboot your computer" randomly.

As well as this I can only hear system sounds (completion noise, increase/decrease sound noise/etc...) I cannot hear things like youtube videos or iTunes.
Any ideas on fixes?

adam, this topic is dedicated to installations and moding and updating, and having to discuss the same "WHICH one is BETTER" subject is boring and totally unrelated due to the fact that like i said, this topic is for people who have already decided, and figuring out issues fixes etc for all sort of things...

i made another topic to discuss similar things...

ngreg: i will check the bios, also let me know all the details about the touchscreen by PM please... thx for the tip for HK

pzmc: did you customize the settings? did you check the FIX 1 under system func/ps2 fixes/?

if you didnt, wait for tomorrow, and I will make a more noob friendly update guide

I did customize to what it says on your website:


Kernels - All options work, if you are on 10.5.5 already, you can use 9.5.0 vanilla with fixChipset - Intel ahci with fix is fine
Audio - Azalia is needed, along with one of the sound switchers. (Make sure you understand that you need to install CHUD package to be able to use any sound switcher)
Video - GMA 950
Network - If you bought one of the compatible WIFIs, it should work OTB, so no network choice is needed unless you have specific need
System Functions - PS2 fix / fix 1 is tested and working (for experimental package wait for confirmation)
SMBIOS, if you have vanilla smbios, just choose smbios resolver, works just fine, same with the SMBIOSEFI. (Dont choose both, choose only one you want)

ok just wait for tomorrow than please...

To Others: I found the Wake On Lan settings and other power management settings and will try to add/modify some settings to see if I can manage to prevent the system to wake up from usb activities! wish me luck... because i dont know if it will work or not, i m just going to set the certain settings to find out which one will work correctly... lets see

I have a problem with keyboard, i want to change the functions of keyboard (key ctrl, alt, windows) but i can't open system preferences of mouse and keyboard, if i click doesn't do anything!!!

and now to write @ i have to push windows button!!!!

Maybe you should wait before buying another wifi card
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=138351
Did somebody try that?

yeah, i have tried that and it does not work. i have messed up quite a few kext files but i have restored the whole osx last night. i will try the method again tonight. fingers crossed.

xeo: keyboard layout problem will happen on any laptop... certain keys will be in different locations, however you should be able to change couple of keyboard keys from system/pref

which osx distro are you using?

chez: it is quite a troublesome method, need to go to apps all the time start the prog, quit the program and etc bla bla process, get one bcm43xx chip mini pci wifi, u should be good to go...

i use a iatkos 4i (leopard 10.5.4).
When i installed i could change parameters of keyboard and mouse in system pref, but now when i click on it nothing appen!!!

why dont you dump iatkos and start using samsung nc10 dvd...

thats the very reason i made this project, so that i dont have to look for what drivers are messing with the system from other dvds...

you right, but if i try with your dvd i loose everything right??
i've also ubuntu and xp in other partitions and i don't want to reinstall everything!!!!!