InorganicMatter
Oct 13 2008, 01:16 PM
I haven't posted much here lately, but had to announce this. I've recently started using Mandriva Linux, and like it a lot. The latest version was just released:
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_TourThey have been a little slow adopting the new stuff, but I think this release has some of the newest versions of popular FOSS. The biggest new things:
- KDE 4.1.2
- KDE 3.5.10
- GNOME 2.24
- Firefox 3
- OpenOffice 3
- The very latest kernel - 2.6.27 (hot off the press, supposed to fix a ton of Wifi problems)
- And my favorite: loads and loads of fully functional drivers (both open and proprietary) for the latest notebooks, netbooks, and video drivers. This is my favorite point, as Mandriva is one of only two distros I've found that correctly installs all drivers right out the shot, no matter if they are open/closed. Call me unsupportive of FOSS, but I hate fighting with drivers in the name of software freedom.
4A4350
Oct 13 2008, 02:19 PM
To me Mandriva is the best easy to use distro (Ubuntu sucks [ at least on my hardware]), I am already downloading it. Read the errata before installing.
Kane Adams
Oct 13 2008, 03:17 PM
Welcome to .insanelymac 4A4350.
Never tried it so might have to fire up vmware and see what it is like.
Cris900
Oct 13 2008, 04:03 PM
# The very latest kernel - 2.6.27 (hot off the press, supposed to fix a ton of Wifi problems) RC8!!!!!!!!!
Alessandro17
Oct 13 2008, 09:06 PM
Looking forward to getting broadband back so that I can download it.
Kane Adams
Oct 13 2008, 10:11 PM
PM me your address and when the torrent gets done I'll burn you a copy and send it off.
Alessandro17
Oct 14 2008, 09:21 PM
QUOTE (Block Head @ Oct 13 2008, 10:11 PM)

PM me your address and when the torrent gets done I'll burn you a copy and send it off.
Thanks Block Head, really nice of you. Yesterday I managed to download Mandriva One at a friends' place.
I should get broadband back really soon now. At least I hope so
Kane Adams
Oct 14 2008, 10:58 PM
Glad you were able to get it.
Alessandro17
Oct 15 2008, 01:00 AM
QUOTE (Block Head @ Oct 14 2008, 10:58 PM)

Glad you were able to get it.
Thanks. So my first impressions:
1)It wouldn't boot on my laptop. I had to use the acpi=off option.
2)I downloaded the KDE4 version. It looks very pretty, but from a functionality point of view it is a total disaster. It misses most of the features I normally use in KDE3.5.
Riley Freeman
Oct 16 2008, 12:09 AM
I thought all the KDE4 hate was just from guys who didn't like change.
But after a fruitless half hour trying to get something simple like a few desktop icons I can see just how broken and unintuitive it is. I installed Mandriva 2009 on a friend's old PC so he could use it for Youtube and the like, but after an hour or more of compounded frustration with KDE4 I now have ripped it out of Mandriva and put back KDE3.
Really, it's quite incredible just how bad it is...
Alessandro17
Oct 16 2008, 12:50 AM
I am glad it isn't just me. KDE4 is one of the biggest mistakes ever, and it will turn away tons of new users, saying "You see, I told you: Linux is useless crap".
I know what many will say: "But KDE3.5 is still available for most distros"
However many people try Linux for the first time with a LiveCD. If they choose the KDE version (and it is almost always KDE4 now) they'll go away in disgust.
But even for people who use a DVD, openSUSE has hidden KDE3 among "other desktop environments". The Mandriva DVD doesn't have KDE3 at all, you must download it. That is not what I call making newbies' life easy.
Riley Freeman
Oct 16 2008, 10:21 PM
It was a bit of a mess after reverting to KDE3. Autologin wouldn't work and I couldn't even update the package lists. So I grabbed 2008.1 and installed that. Much better. For now I just updated it all the way for 2008. Not gonna chance upgrading it to 2009 just yet. It'll work fine for what my friend needs.
Alessandro17
Oct 16 2008, 10:29 PM
Otherwise I suggest that you install Gnome and after that you download KDE3, no KDE4 at all.
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