once again.... thanks for making such easy to follow instructions.... I got stuck on this a month ago...

Having AHCI enabled gives you a slightly higher performance regarding the read and write speeds of the hard drives/DVD drives. But again most people won't notice it.

I had the same issue when I was setting up leopard. What I did, was not to reinstall everything again, but just disable the AHCI from de bios then boot leopard normally, which it did fine, then again I reinstalled both AHCI kexts, restart again, an before booting again to leopard I re-enabled AHCI on the BIOS and now leopard booted normally.

Seems like some kexts are not installed correctly or maybe overwritten when you're installing kernel updates or other kind of official apple updates. By the way I was using kext helper to install all my kexts, so maybe there is some kind of bug on it when you install too much kexts at the same time with the kexthelper or it's just bad luck.

Cheers!!

Ok, this is really weird. If I don't have a current on the ethernet port (i.e. the modem turned on) when I boot up the graphics get all screwed up and the system hangs after a short while (like when I installed NVinject with the 512 mb option). If I disable the onboard LAN it works alright. It's not really a problem since my modem is always on, and if I should have to boot without LAN sometime (if the modem stops working or something) I can just disable it.

By the way, I haven't dared to install the security update yet. Has everyone else here done it?

The security update works fine for me.

Is my CPU running too hot? I have a Q6600 I haven't overclocked or anything, and just ran the yes > /dev/null in 4 windows and here are my temps:

60˚C
58˚C
55˚C
56˚C

just wondering what temps I should be getting, is that good or bad?

So Close but still so far ................

Hi All

I have the following hardware.

Antec P182 Case
Red Scorpion Fan
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L v.2 BIOS version 7
Q6600 G0 stepping
MSI RX2600XT Pci-e
4 GB Kingston Valueram (2x2)
Corsair HX520 Powersupply
Pioneer DVR115BK sata
Samsung Spinpoint 750 GB sata

I have installed and followed this guide by Weaksauce12 (thanks :-). But one problem remains, and for me its a big issue :-(

The system wont come back from sleep, it just spins up disk, fans and sounds like its running, but its not. (yes, i use the Power button :-)

I have checked that the system is not running at all via remote desktop, so its not just a blank/black screen. Cant even reset the system, i have to shut down the power to get it back.

(The monitor don´t see any signal at all)

If i change the bios setting from S3 to S1, the system will "sleep" but dont spin down fans and still uses 100watt, not really sleep enough for me. But it comes back perfectly, even by mouse or keyboard.

It restarts and shutdown perfectly most of the time.

I followed the guide step by step twice, but have not used "Sata ACHI, enabled" in bios, since it won´t boot from DVD? (but i can used ACHI after insatall). I Also selected driver for the 2600XT in Kalaway install to get around the "snow screen" during install.

Otherwise i runs fast and seems stable. Running Vmware, "eating" DVDs in handbrake for lunch, Lightroom also tested. All updates running, even the latest security.

Please help me to fix this one issue, tried almost everything possible myself, that i can think of, but no luck.

Best regards
Allan

Any news on the DD/DTS 5.1 passthrough?? I would rather use the onboard instead of a usb/card soln.

I was planning on using Front Row as this is for a luddite friend and KISS is the name of the game here (unless Plex is easier?). He is using my old G4 DP with great success, after a complete disaster with windows, so I think keeping it the same for now.

Also, any experience with driving two displays at different rez. and refresh rates?

Thanks...

you are right where you should be. I'm guessing you're using a stock cooler? It could be a bit cooler but i know some computers that aren't cooled that well that idle at those temps so for a full load, that's not bad.

I just built mine and while I have not run all 4 cores at 100 like you are for the test, I get nervous if I hit 50C. What does it idle at ? Can you run it in the 32C range at idle ?

Q6600 is a hot chip no doubt, I have a Lian Li case with side fans and an Arctic Cooling CPU heatsink and fan and I'm still running hotter than I would like.

I did overclock to 3Ghz last night and temps went up but not sky rocketed.... I have always wanted to liquid cool, maybe this is my chance....

It's running a little hot. What's the room temp as that will have a bearing on the computer temp?

My Q6700 processor runs in the mid 50˚C at max use... and that's with it overclocked to 3.33GHz. At idle the temp is in the mid 30˚C.

Did you place the proper amount of thermal paste on the chip? Too much and it acts like an insulator.

You are using the stock cooling fan?



The Q6600's recommend max temp is 70C. The Q6600 should not need water cooling if overclocking in the 3.1-4GHz range. Just watch the processor's voltage and get that as low as possible as a little bump in voltage can make the temps jump like crazy as it's non-linear.


But I too get nervous with any temp in the 60C range.

Thanks for all the responses!

No I am using an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro heatsink.

It was about 80˚F in the room when I ran that test.

It idles around 38-40˚

Whenever I installed the heatsink I ran into problems though. I got all the legs pushed into the holes and locked down fine, but the last leg wouldn't lock down all the way. It locked down some just not all the way, and I tried to unlock it and do it again and it looked like it was stuck, I twisted the little grip to the left like it says but nothing happened.

Any suggestions?

Edit:

Oh and I also have 2 x 120MM Fans in the front of the case pulling air into the case, and 1 x 120MM Fan in the back pushing air out of the case. I am also getting another 120mm today that I am going to put on the side to pull air right either underneath the heatsink or ontop.

Try to lower the CPU voltage until the system becomes unresponsive. Then, select the voltage just above that level. My CPU runs a 1.25 V, idle @ 29 to 33 C, loaded @ 48-52C, 3.2 GHz.

I would worry if I didn't have all the legs locked down properly - seems like something is wrong...

Patrick

Yes I'd worry the heatsink isn't seated properly too. If not seated properly it can not do it's job. You are using thermal paste...correct?

My E4300 I had for almost 2 years (@ 3.4ghz) was idle around 55C and got up to 80C on load, and it ran great. CPU's are more robust these days. My current Q6600 is idle at 39C and with 4 cores running Prime95 for hours gets near 80C as well (stable voltage for me is 1.33 @ 3.2 ghz), that's with Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - with stock heatsink I was getting 55C / 90C ! But I'm comfortable right now.

my brothers computer idles at around 50C and under load peaks out at 70C and his computer has been running fine for about a year now so i wouldn't worry too much.

Definately would look into the heatsink not seating right though.

Yes I am using the thermal paste that came on the heatsink. Tonight when I get home I will see if I can get the leg to go down the rest of the way. Thanks!

Anyone have any suggestions on how to "unstick/unjam" the leg?

First I would like to say weaksauce I appreciate the guide, worked like a charm (although I was having to boot into safe mode everytime...is this normal?)

That is until I go to try and install Natit.kext with kexthelper for my gigabyte radeon hd 3870. It didn't work and my computer will not boot (not even into safe mode). So my question is, how do I uninstall this kext bearing in mind I can't get into leopard. Also what kext should I use for this card?

Hey guys once again you all come through with excellent help. I dropped by Radio Shack and picked up some thermal paste (I guess the stock wasn't enough) and that cut the CPU temp in HALF!
Thank again

LAST QUESTION! LOL! I have everything working perfectly thanks to you guys. Even have Vista/Leopard dual booting

The only thing is I installed Leopard on the smallest hard drive I have (80gb), and I have much larger drives handy.
Is it possible to take say a 160gb harddrive and clone/copy my Leopard installation that is on my 80gb to the larger 160? Without any problems? Will it boot up the same, etc....
Any advice on which program to use?

Weaksauce has recommended SuperDuper and is the program he has used to carbon copy his install

Thanks bud! I'm an idiot....I totally forgot about the Cloning section in Weaksauce's guide

Thanks again though!

Hey guys, been out on a work project. Just popping in to link to PCwiz's awesome new Gigabyte Control Center app:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=121805

I am trying to get all the files i need to use this method on my pc, but i am having trouble downloading the Software Package for this tutorial, the 19MB zip file (From section III part 4.), from the rapidshare website. It keeps coming up with an error saying either my IP address is already in use, which as far as i know it isnt, or that my session has expired and to try again. I have tried a number of times on seperate occassions and cant get it to work.

Does anyone know how i can get rapidshare to work? if not is there anywhere else i could get hold of this package?

Thanks very much

Anyone of you guys with the newer 45nm chips having trouble with the system clock losing a few seconds every minute? I guess it has to do with the vanilla kernal?

I think this was covered earlier in this thread. Do a search. I think the problem was solved.

All my parts are in. Done my build =). So far, most things are working good however when I got to step 8. Repair Disk Permissions (click on your boot partition in Disk Utility, then click on the Repair Disk Permissions button in the middle-bottom" in the "how to install the strings file" the disk utility does not show my disk. It just sits there with the busy icon. Also, when I click on the 'system preferences' on the dock it does not open and after the 10.5.4 update my cd won't eject any longer. I am totally new to MAC so I have a huge learning curve to work through.

I used all the same parts in the guide with exception I have western digitial 500GB sata and my video card is evga geforce 8800 GT. everything else seems to be working ok. not sure how to fix above issues. Perhaps I am missing something. I did do everything step by step to this point and only got hung up on strings section but after a reboot the about this mac shows correct processor.. I have 8GB ram & Intel 2.4ghz Quad-Core Q6600 processor.

Thanks for any tips...

although not fully tested, there seems to be a correlation between more than 2gigs of ram and weird problems. Take out all but 2 gigs of ram and see if that helps the situation at all

If you have DSL and a dynamic IP, disconnecting and re-connecting will often get you a new IP address assigned...

Patrick

I never did the repair permission step and I got everything working. If you skip that step, did you get any errors?

So everything has been running smooth since I unplugged the extra IDE drive but now I'm having a new issue.

Whenever I call on a file attachment from a webpage its freezing up the browser and giving me the beachball of death.
Any time I try and attach a file in either Firefox or Safari and I hit "Choose File" I'm freezing up.

Any ideas?

Hey dci693, i searched this thread but nothing came up, i have read around and it seems that the modbin kernal fixes the clock problems, but im wondering if that will screw up sleep and restart and power down?

Is this really a problem if you set the system to retrieve the date and time automatically from the net?

Yea but sometimes it is still wrong. The problem i have is it makes it impossible for me to schedule a recording in wiretap (I record a radio program daily that is on while I'm at work) since the clock is often an hour or more behind, until i update it.

Though this is for the EP motherboard, I thought I'd post it here too - anyone running 4 GB have problems with the straight P35 motherboard?

--
I have some sad news to report:

First of all, I was using a KingWin direct touch heat pipe CPU cooler, but the fan made a terribly annoying high pitched whine so I'd been running without the fan until I got a replacement. It didn't get too hot, the heat pipes did a good job. Last night I took the system apart to replace the cooler with a new KingWin (this fan didn't whine). I also added a firewire card.

I put the system back together, booted - everything seemed fine. Walked away, came back and the system was hung with a black screen. I immediately thought there was a problem with the cooler and re-booted and checked the CPU. Tried various things, but the CPU was cooling just fine (31 degrees C).

Tried booting again - kernel panicked before it even got booted. Figured it must be the firewire card (though it'd been pulled from a working system). Pulled it. Booted, but Mail was acting funny and I couldn't get online. Realized I'd plugged the ethernet into the motherboard connector when I hooked everything back up - moved it to the card, Mail got my email.

Was replying to an email and the system went black in the middle of my typing and rebooted. This is not good.

Remembered that I repaired permissions as well and that several kexts (including the BlueTooth ones) had their permissions repaired, indicating to me that they'd likely not been loading before. Booted into Safe Mode, renamed the IOBluetooth kexts - rebooted - still problems Mail wasn't showing my inbox, would crash when I tried to rebuild it.

Then the system wouldn't boot - once it wouldn't load the IOUSB family kext, but then it did. VERY flakey. I remembered others having problems with 4GB of ram and so I removed one stick (I have two 2 gig sticks).

BINGO - instant stability. I don't know what happened to make my system sensitive to 4GB when it was fine before - I suspect a kext is now loading that wasn't before - unfortunately, I don't have the log from the Disk Utility to show which kexts had their permissions repaired, or I'd have some clue...

I'll report more as I learn.

Patrick

The 4GB issue is a known issue with other boards, and it seems to be affecting the EP35 and possible the P35. I'm doing some testing on my end this week but I'm also wrapping up the next guide update, so I'd love to hear back from you on this issue!

Try switching the RAM stick to see if it's that particular stick gone bad.

Yah - I'm gonna do that, but the fact that it was running in the BadAxe hack for around a year and this system for a couple of weeks without incident (plus the fact that I pulled the "bad" stick the first time around) leads me to to doubt bad RAM...

Patrick

Well, there's always Memtest86+

Ram worked fine before you replaced the KingWin...then the computer acted up afterwards.

Maybe the ram was dislodged from slot or damaged.

You mention problems with 4gb of RAM, but I notice in a few of your signatures (including your's weaksauce12) that you are running 8gb. Do you have any stability problems with 8gb?

yeah, no.

p

This would really suck if this whole 4GB ram issue didn't get cleared up somehow. I was so excited on getting another 2 to make 4gigs but now it doesn't seem like such a good idea.

Nope, none. 8 gigs runs great. Have 8 gigs on two machines here.

Testing two machines with 4 gigs tonight. I'll see if there's any stability problems over the weekend. I'll also try a fresh install, from scratch, on a 4gb machine. See if we can nail this down...

My P35 build currently has 2gb RAM. I had taken out all IDE devices as well as 2gb of RAM to try and get it to be totally stable. It's run well, but given me two kernel panics on shutdown. I can't say that running with 2gb is any better than with 4, but only time will tell.

I have been running 4 gig since day 1 with my hack and never such problems ? Doesn't mean there isn't a problem but I have not seen it ?

Don't know yet. Common factors:

-EP35 boards particularly prone to issues (kernel panics, etc.)
-Systems with IDE drives prone to issues
-Systems with 4GB RAM prone to issues

The 4GB RAM issue could be, in fact, the IDE issue. Don't know yet. Personally I've got 3 extremely stable P35 rigs up and running, 100% SATA, with between 2 and 8 gigs of RAM, no issues whatsoever. I want to track these down before I release the next guide update!

Me neither.

When I had 4 Gig of ram AND IDE I had issues, Oh I had issues ! Mainly not sleeping nor shutdown correctly

I just followed your guide step by step... and it was Friggin amazing.... my hat is off to you.... Great job.

This is my third hackitosh the others worked what I thought was well but I had issues with double booting or hanging on shut down...

This is a dream................. I am sad to say a a PC dude that this was easy to load than Vista on my gaming system...

One little hangup I had was the Kext HelperB7 requires that you have a password.. on my last few system I have left that blank as I secure sites and access at a server level.

Thank you very much Weaksause12... you are truly da bomb

My system also has 4 G ram and IDE but no issue so far. Also I use the integrated lan and I can do spleep, shutdown and all. Lan works after sleep as intended. But on a friend machine same board, maybe diferent ram, but still 4G we didn't managed even to install. I was saying faild to validate the contents of some esential packages. Tried multiple times with and without dvd checking .. .same issue Searched on the net and seems to be ram related ? I don't think is a specific 4 GB problem, it's more like a bad batch of ram or something.