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newbmac
Wow! Awesome! Will report back to you on the driver.

Question, what is E-DSP? Do I need this just for sound in OS X?
macspade
eugene, I would just want to say, Thank You. You did this with your spare time, and delivered. Donations maybe? haha
I'll be sure to post bugs AFTER you had your vacation lol. Enjoy it, I don't have osx86 installed, due to the lack of sound. But will give these a go. I hope you enjoy your vacation.

Thanks again


P.S
To Eugene, or those who will try out the drivers, before I get home and re-install leopard. Is core audio functional?
newbmac
Holy sh*t I have sound from my Audigy 2 ZS under Leopard.

All sound comes from the rear speakers as you said in your note. Also I don't see an Audio & Midi panel to configure. In the Sounds I see just a single slider for left and right balance. I don't see how to enable more than 2 channels?
macspade
newbmac, audio midi panel is located in the utilities folder, from the finder, click on go and look for utilities . The utilites folder is also located also in the applications folder
newbmac
QUOTE (macspade @ Aug 12 2008, 09:12 AM) *
newbmac, audio midi panel is located in the utilities folder, from the finder, click on go and look for utilities . The utilites folder is also located also in the applications folder


Ah thanks! Will try that later today...
Oxtie
QUOTE (eugene k2 @ Aug 12 2008, 12:27 PM) *
OS X driver released - version 1.0b2

get it from here (don't forget to review 'known issues' and 'unimplemented' stuff):

http://www.driverheaven.net/mac-os-x-driver/

post your comments and bug reports to driverheaven forum please, since I cannot read both forums regularly
--

Lama, please update your topic:
* official site is www.kxproject.com
* E-DSP will only work if you boot OS X after Windows (with kX for Windows installed) - because E-DSP FPGA microcode needs to be loaded, and no such option exists for OS X at the moment
* DELL OEM card will never be supported

E.


Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllll
PAGE UPDATED smile.gif
newbmac
I am going to post this in the news section with a link to this thread. Hope that's ok?
Oxtie
Its always ok to spread the word, Don't forget to test some files with iTunes (different sample rates etc) and other apps. Post your bug reports as mentioned smile.gif
bird33
dosent seem to work. all i get is static from the speakers
catboy
Great!!!!!!!!!! i will try my Audigy Zs

Thks!! Eugene

PS. miss my card ( Creative Labs SB Audigy ZS V:1102 D:7003 ) in Info.plist.. i change it..
neodude991
Don't seem to work with my Audigy SE sad.gif Installs fine but not found in sound properties in system preferences. Running 10.4.11
newbmac
QUOTE (bird33 @ Aug 12 2008, 10:16 AM) *
dosent seem to work. all i get is static from the speakers


You should really provide SOME details on what you are trying to use... i.e. OS version, sound card, etc

Unless you were just complaining and didn't want help from people or to contribute to the test process?
Oxtie
QUOTE (neodude991 @ Aug 12 2008, 04:53 PM) *
Don't seem to work with my Audigy SE sad.gif Installs fine but not found in sound properties in control panel. Running 10.4.11


I think Audigy SE is not based on EMU10K(1 or 2) therefore it may not work on it...
jimeney
This is amazing news, just cracking the case open, and putting in my audigy 2 ZS platinum. Excited!
newbmac
Lama,

It was suggested in another thread that you please re-do the first post and make it more towards testing now? Suggested :

1) Erase the first post completely and just have the download details and official bug reporting URL.
2) List the cards and OS versions that are and are not working according to reports here. Such as a simple table like

Type OS X Version Speakers Supported Mic Other
Audigy 2 ZS (official Soundblaster card) 10.5.3 5.1, 2.1 etc Not working Sound out rear speakers


Thanks
neodude991
QUOTE (Lama @ Aug 12 2008, 06:12 PM) *
I think Audigy SE is not based on EMU10K(1 or 2) therefore it may not work on it...


Thats a real blow sad.gif And your right it lacks the EMU10K processor.
newbmac
QUOTE (neodude991 @ Aug 12 2008, 01:44 PM) *
Thats a real blow sad.gif And your right it lacks the EMU10K processor.


That is too bad. You could just buy a cheap Audigy 2 off ebay for almost nothing...
macspade
so no one is talking about sound quality itself? how does it stack up to its windows counterpart?
newbmac
QUOTE (Lama @ Aug 12 2008, 01:58 PM) *
OK, OSX versions added and icons removed. About table, I can only provide information about my hardware and those who give feedback here...
As mentioned, its an "Afla" release and should not be compared with Win version immediately...



Of course but pooling it in the first thread will be a great way to stop the repeated questions smile.gif Thanks! biggrin.gif

Here is mine


Card: Audigy 2 ZS (official Soundblaster card)
OS: 10.5.3 Kalyway
Speakers: 5.1
Sound routing: Rear speakers
Issues: Not yet
jimeney
OK I am pleased to report that it works great so far (only had sound playing for a couple of minutes so far, there have been reports of sound degrading over 10-15 minutes.

Specs:

Iatkos 4i
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS platinum pro.
Using optical output to Sony receiver - PCM 48KHz output - perfect.
macspade
QUOTE (Lama @ Aug 12 2008, 05:58 PM) *
OK, OSX versions added and icons removed. About table, I can only provide information about my hardware and those who give feedback here...



As mentioned, its an "Afla" release and should not be compared with Win version immediately...


I understand that, of course theres alot to be done before we can compare. But is it enough to justify from using azalia based soundcard quality?? (Onboard Sound). Of course I shouldnt expect something huge, the fact there is support for audigy cards is appreciated, I just wanted to get more details on the sound itself rather than whats not working (which is expected). I'm sure theres bugs, thats okay though. Alpha is alpha

P.S thanks lama for the updates and everything, very helpful , but not so patient according to driverheaven tongue.gif
jimeney
OK so as a proof of concept this is fantastic, however I am sad to report that after 10 minutes of sound playback the sound distorts and goes garbled. I know this is only at alpha stage, but having sound *at all* is brilliant progress. I'll stay tuned for updates. Good luck to all the others trying it out as we speak!

Iatkos 4i * Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
newbmac
QUOTE (macspade @ Aug 12 2008, 02:14 PM) *
I understand that, of course theres alot to be done before we can compare. But is it enough to justify from using azalia based soundcard quality?? (Onboard Sound). Of course I shouldnt expect something huge, the fact there is support for audigy cards is appreciated, I just wanted to get more details on the sound itself rather than whats not working (which is expected). I'm sure theres bugs, thats okay though. Alpha is alpha

P.S thanks lama for the updates and everything, very helpful , but not so patient according to driverheaven tongue.gif



Well it's needed for those of us with completely working systems except for the sound! Think of it, lots of systems work very well and it is normally the sound that's the deal breaker. Now, one can get a cheap Audigy card and not only get sound, but get 5.1 sound! that's better than a real mac smile.gif


LAMA,

You might also want to specifiy in the first post that these work with INTEL OS X.
Hagar's second post in the thread is out of date and says they are PPC, which is NOT the case anymore smile.gif
Riley Freeman
Drivers installed fine and detect my card. When Leopard boots I can hear a click in my speakers as if the card is working. But there is no sound (trying iTunes).

I just have a stereo speaker system but have configured the speakers as such because the reports are that only rear speaker output is working:

6: Sub Woofer
3: Front Left
5: Front Center
4: Front Right
1: Rear Left
2: Rear Right

Card detected as: kX CT4760 10k1 [9000]

OS in sig

I'm posting this here because I can't sign-up to driverheaven (Hotmail emails not allowed)
Oxtie
QUOTE (Riley Freeman @ Aug 12 2008, 07:06 PM) *
Drivers installed fine and detect my card. When Leopard boots I can hear a click in my speakers as if the card is working. But there is no sound (trying iTunes).

I just have a stereo speaker system but have configured the speakers as such because the reports are that only rear speaker output is working:

6: Sub Woofer
3: Front Left
5: Front Center
4: Front Right
1: Rear Left
2: Rear Right

Card detected as: kX CT4760 10k1 [9000]

OS in sig

I'm posting this here because I can't sign-up to driverheaven (Hotmail emails not allowed)


The issue was also with me, I restarted (after setting up speakers) and sound worked (only on the rear speakers). if you copied and pasted this speaker preset (from DriverHeaven), understand that I posted it at Bug report url (my nick is Oxtie over there) wink.gif and yes, you can try to workaround as you're not getting sound anyways. (but don't forget to restart after any speaker settings changes). If you're successful, please post your results here...
Riley Freeman
I've restarted after changing the speaker setup but still no dice. I did notice this in Audio MIDI Setup though.

Looks like the master volume is set to 0 and not selectable. Can you check yours and see if it looks like this?
Riley Freeman
QUOTE (Lama @ Aug 12 2008, 08:36 PM) *
Mine is same, now when you click on Configure Speakers, Select 5.1 and (from behind of audio card) swap the wires from Left and Right TO Rear Left and REAR right... and see if works or not smile.gif (oh yes don't forget your favorite restart...lol)

The thing is, this isn't a 5.1 card. I only have a stereo jack for output. No front/rear etc. It's just a basic SB Live Value.

It's great these drivers came out so quick. I hope I don't sound impatient or anything. It's just that I'm also juggling ethernet and speedstep issues at the same time wink.gif
s1mmo
{censored}...been waiting for these drivers ever since this thread was even made...turns out my Audigy SE isnt compatible LOL!!
Dmitrii
Cross fingers, reboot and it's work on my spec! Thank you so much!!! Only 8 channel output in audiomidiutility and no input sad.gif I have 2.1 audio speakers. I not tested ext. module and i hope to this will work. What about remote control and front row, guys?
Riley Freeman
OK I got it at last!

Just selected stereo in speaker setup and set left speaker to channel 3 and right to 4 (in all my frantic clicking I didn't read that you can click on the speaker icon to hear a test sound. duh...). I get sound but it degrades within a couple of minutes. Still, that's a known bug right now. But it works!
Oxtie
QUOTE (Dmitrii @ Aug 12 2008, 08:07 PM) *
Cross fingers, reboot and it's work on my spec! Thank you so much!!! Only 8 channel output in audiomidiutility and no input sad.gif I have 2.1 audio speakers. I not tested ext. module and i hope to this will work. What about remote control and front row, guys?

Dmitrii, try to do what Riley Freeman did smile.gif set Left speaker to chan3 and Right to chan4 while woofer to 6? try other if didn't work smile.gif


QUOTE (Riley Freeman @ Aug 12 2008, 08:10 PM) *
OK I got it at last!

Just selected stereo in speaker setup and set left speaker to channel 3 and right to 4 (in all my frantic clicking I didn't read that you can click on the speaker icon to hear a test sound. duh...). I get sound but it degrades within a couple of minutes. Still, that's a known bug right now. But it works!


Ah yes, to save yourselves from Restarts wacko.gif Hagar pointed out a temp solution

OPEN TERMINAL and type the following (which should give you another 10 minutes.... lol)
sudo -s
(password)
kextunload /System/Library/Extensions/kXAudioDriver.kext
(if at this point it says "failed" just repeat the command above)
kextload /System/Library/Extensions/kXAudioDriver.kext
newbmac
Sound from all 5.1 speakers after setting in Audio Midi Setup!

I tried changing the channels to direct the sound in the Audio Midi Setup for speakers from the rear to the front

For my Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS the following are the speaker channel mappings

Left Front 3
Right Front 4
Center 5
Left Rear 1
Right Rear 2
Subwoofer 6
Oxtie
QUOTE (newbmac @ Aug 12 2008, 08:42 PM) *
Sound from all 5.1 speakers after setting in Audio Midi Setup!

I tried changing the channels to direct the sound in the Audio Midi Setup for speakers from the rear to the front

For my Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS the following are the speaker channel mappings

Left Front 3
Right Front 4
Center 5
Left Rear 1
Right Rear 2
Subwoofer 6


Yup, I've mentioned it at DH's bug report page smile.gif but the thing is that after you reboot, it will not sound from all speakers (only the rear ones)
Riley Freeman
QUOTE (Lama @ Aug 12 2008, 09:22 PM) *
Ah yes, to save yourselves from Restarts wacko.gif Hagar pointed out a temp solution

OPEN TERMINAL and type the following (which should give you another 10 minutes.... lol)
sudo -s
(password)
kextunload /System/Library/Extensions/kXAudioDriver.kext
(if at this point it says "failed" just repeat the command above)
kextload /System/Library/Extensions/kXAudioDriver.kext

Thanks. But on further testing it starts degrading after exactly 1 minute, so for now it really can't be used.
newbmac
QUOTE (Lama @ Aug 12 2008, 04:55 PM) *
Yup, I've mentioned it at DH's bug report page smile.gif but the thing is that after you reboot, it will not sound from all speakers (only the rear ones)


Works great for me. I actually had to restart to get it all to work.

For Stereo speaker settings I also switched the channels there so now the sound comes from my front speakers WITHOUT having to change my cabling. I also fixed it for MultiChannel 5.1 so it plays the correct channels from each 5.1 speaker.

Front Left 5
Front Right 6

Listening to itunes from my front speakers now, not from back which I assume is correct as this is stereo music and not surround songs.

QUOTE (Riley Freeman @ Aug 12 2008, 05:00 PM) *
Thanks. But on further testing it starts degrading after exactly 1 minute, so for now it really can't be used.


Well I don't have your sound card. What I had to do:

First adjust in Audio Midi Setup the settings for the speaker channels. Then restart and at restart I did a -f -v

System sound for Adium came from 5.1 and listening to itunes perfectly right now from 2.1
newbmac
Ok, just CONFIRMED. I restarted and OS X kept all my speaker settings.

If you are not keeping settings, make sure you restart after adjusting the speaker channels and do a -f -v boot.

Going to leave the music playing to see if sound goes ....

BUG: Sound volume adjustment slider does not work on the apple desktop but does work in iTunes
newbmac
QUOTE (Lama @ Aug 12 2008, 05:19 PM) *
I've Audigy 2 ZS and OSX does keep the settings (it just doesn't play from front L&R after reboot and continues to play from rear) I've done that channel mapping long back... wacko.gif


Did you do the chanel mapping for both multichannel and stereo tabs in the Midi Utility?


Well, the sound degrades for me. I just stopped itunes and came back to start it 5 minutes later, sound is all garbled coming out sad.gif
newbmac
QUOTE (Lama @ Aug 12 2008, 05:24 PM) *
angel.png Known Issue and the workaround also mentioned plenty of times (check my post 1) (also your thread)


Yep, got it.

Also, in first post is it correct that rear speakers only work? The issue is the channels are not properly mapped and I have 5.1 sound for system sounds. In iTunes music is only 2 channel, so it should not be coming out of 5.1 right?
Oxtie
QUOTE (newbmac @ Aug 12 2008, 09:26 PM) *
Yep, got it.

Also, in first post is it correct that rear speakers only work? The issue is the channels are not properly mapped and I have 5.1 sound for system sounds. In iTunes music is only 2 channel, so it should not be coming out of 5.1 right?


regardless of audio channels in a file, 2.0 shouldn't be playing from the rear but all (specially after setting up channel mappings in Audio midi.app). if its only happening with me, then I'll remove it off... wacko.gif although it is an issue. If you see below 48000 Hz, there are channels and only 1 and 2 are adjustable while "M" and all other channels are grayed and off. (i can assume you don't have this)

Standard CT driver in XP plays 2.0 mp3 in all 5.1 not just front or just rear. From my side, Channel test signal noise comes correctly from all right speakers (ofcourse after remapping each of them). Even in kX for XP, I had to use kX Mixer to get all 5.1 working (thanks to Russ@DH for eplog workaround)

EDIT: Bed time, will be back asap. blink.gif
newbmac
Paypal donations for their project:

http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/fund.php?language=en
alicizmar
Ooooooh, I got a Sound Blaster in my machine begging to be used again (on Realtek ALC889a now). I'll give this a shot. smile.gif
fredun
Audio MIDI Setup

Audio Output

Format:

double click  to  8ch-16bit

sound OK  biggrin.gif
-=n3rd=-
Hey Guys,

I tried it with my Audigy4 OEM non Pro and it works! The Card is correctly recognized but the sound is very crispy...The hights in my sound are distortioned and it doesn't really sounds that good...Maybe its getting better with future releases. I'll keep the ball. My bigggest dream is that I can use the digital Output with my Coxial Output. I buyed an adaptor which gives me that outputs. I don't no if its possible but I would love to use my digital outputs with osx!

Good work so far! Keep on rockin' dudes!
Dmitrii
Thank you for answer Lama smile.gif
I just plugin jack into other connector. ir receiver won't work on Audigy2 Platinum sad.gif It will be great solution for FrontRow. Still wait new version
iTuning
WOW ! Just saw the thread by accident, when googling around biggrin.gif

I'm also a member of the suffering Creative-community, having f.e. a Live!-card
has always been a pain in the arse for a system othen than WinXP smile.gif

Can't wait to try it out ! THANK YOU !!!

Wish you all peps good luck with this !

Greetings


Mac OS X 10.5.4 (iDeneb v.1) Modbin kernel 9.4.0
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe, AMI BIOS v.1023
Intel Pentium 4 HT "Prescott'' 2.8 GHz/FSB 800 MHz/1 MB L2 cache
Intel 875P MCH/Intel ICH5R
Kingston HyperX 2x1 GB DDR 400 MHz
Asus V9999 TD (nVidia GeForce 6800), 128 MB/256 bit, Full CI/QE/QGL
newbmac
QUOTE (fredun @ Aug 13 2008, 01:10 AM) *
Audio MIDI Setup

Audio Output

Format:

double click  to  8ch-16bit

sound OK  biggrin.gif


Hmm, that makes it mono and not stereo sound I think. Guess that will work, but not ideal.
iTuning
Here are the results on a Creative Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Digital + Creative Inspire 5.1 Sound System :

The driver gets loaded by Mac OS X, alert tunes +iTunes songs + HDTV-rips sound work all,
with the exception for the driver working normally only from time to time smile.gif
In just a few minutes, the sound starts "crackling", loading/unloading the driver
doesn't help much. Although one do can configure the sound output and sound redirection,
and that all channels do their work separately, "format"-choice menu is limited to
48 KHz and 8ch-16 bit, which is i think the thingy causing problems to this card specifically.
Might be of course something completely other than this smile.gif
If you do not configure a multichannel audio output, but just a stereo,
5.1 output is still working under movies.

But, what the hell, one can't expect miracles right at the first stage, right ?
The KX group has done something i believe no one has expected,
and even with all the mentioned problems, they do deserve the crown !

I am more than sure this initiative will come to its full success
in the near future and wish the talented developers all the best in their lives and their work.

I find this a GIANT achievement and a very big step forward !
Keep up the good work, support is at hand !

THANX A LOT !
devilhood
Lama, this is great stuff biggrin.gif
newbmac
Does anyone know if Eugene is traveling and won't be able to do another release for a while or not?
PuLSaR
Tested on Audigy 4 PRO card, it works very well, the sound quality is great, infortunately the sound gets distorted after 5-10 minutes.
However, awesome work, it sounds very promising wink.gif
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